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Any electricians in the house?

 
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We had a massive wind storm last night and towards the end I noticed the power would go out during gusts. This got so bad that it eventually stayed out. I’m the only house on the street without power. Because of the gusts causing it, I checked outside and the service line does run through a trees branches and it does seem like a larger branch is in direct contact. The kicker is I finally noticed there are still a few things drawing power in the house, the oven, fridge and furnace and 1 bedroom.

I already called the utility company but who knows when they show up with all the damage everywhere. Could a branch touching my service line only knock out power to certain parts of my house? I’m debating calling an electrician until after the utility can check but it’s just weird some things still have power. I already reset all the breakers but that didn’t help.
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
prepare for big problems.
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220 221 whatever it takes
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I would turn off the mains until someone can assess the situation
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Name the things that are running correctly.
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

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Re: Any electricians in the house?
tree branch could be causing current spikes to your house. breakers could be cooked. did the box smell bad? I would turn off the mains and prepare for many things not plugged into surge protectors to not come on again.
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Check your electrical panel for tripped breakers.
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Mains connecting to your house probably broke in the wind.

only power company can touch them
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Sounds like you lost one of your phases. Stay away from the tree!

I have 37 years working as an electrician.

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Sounds like you lost one of your phases. Stay away from the tree!
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
tree branch could be causing current spikes to your house. breakers could be cooked. did the box smell bad? I would turn off the mains and prepare for many things not plugged into surge protectors to not come on again.
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Box smelt fine(ha ha) and I don’t think anything’s cooked because whenever we get a strong gust still things come back on for a second. I’ll shutoff the main, my question was is it worth waiting on the electrician until the utility clears the branch. Sounds like it is, I was just confused why it’s not knocking out the whole house during gusts. Feels more like power drains than spikes.
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
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Sounds like you lost one of your phases. Stay away from the tree!

I have 37 years working as an electrician.
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Thats exactly what i think too. One of the lines coming down the pole pulled out from the lug and the other phase may just be hanging on by a couple strands.
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tree branch could be causing current spikes to your house. breakers could be cooked. did the box smell bad? I would turn off the mains and prepare for many things not plugged into surge protectors to not come on again.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Box smelt fine(ha ha) and I don’t think anything’s cooked because whenever we get a strong gust still things come back on for a second. I’ll shutoff the main, my question was is it worth waiting on the electrician until the utility clears the branch. Sounds like it is, I was just confused why it’s not knocking out the whole house during gusts. Feels more like power drains than spikes.
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No you need a lineman not an electrician.
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

Oh,and screw tepco & the V.A.



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Time to fire up the generator and kill the panel. ASAP
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
tree branch could be causing current spikes to your house. breakers could be cooked. did the box smell bad? I would turn off the mains and prepare for many things not plugged into surge protectors to not come on again.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Box smelt fine(ha ha) and I don’t think anything’s cooked because whenever we get a strong gust still things come back on for a second. I’ll shutoff the main, my question was is it worth waiting on the electrician until the utility clears the branch. Sounds like it is, I was just confused why it’s not knocking out the whole house during gusts. Feels more like power drains than spikes.
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It sounds like grounding out part of the supply in that tree.

The working items in your house must be on the same circuit.

Electrician posted here that one of your phases is out, best explanation yet, but your wiring sounds weird, isn't 220 for dryer, stove etc., not split across circuits through a house?
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It is highly likely one of your supply voltages is ground. Most of the time, that is a utility issue because a tree imb is grounding it.

Is your power supplied by triplex or individual lines?
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Sounds like you lost one of your phases. Stay away from the tree!

I have 37 years working as an electrician.
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
Check the voltage on each leg to ground wire @ the main box/meter. Meters are free at Harbor Freight with a coupon and min. purchase. SB about 120VAC on each leg and nearly the same.
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Sounds like you lost one of your phases. Stay away from the tree!

I have 37 years working as an electrician.
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
There are three lines of a transformer secondary with 250VAC and the third is a center tap, 125VAC on either side. The center tap is usually calleed "neutral". This is usually grounded somewhere near the serice entrance. Both lines with 125VAC are used to power different parts of the house. One is shorting to a branch. Remove ALL branches around the power wires and don't get electrocuted. The power provider is responsibl for cutting these branches.
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
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Central heat uses 220-240 volts dufus.
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
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if one of the phases is shorted out then only 125 is coming in on one side.. that is why one circuit in his house is working.

I do not understand why all his 125 volt circuits are not working though... weird?

his oven and dryer should not work.. not enough voltage. has he or she tried them yet?

a short before you will not affect you, they can leave power on etc.. they are in effect cut out of the circuit there...

but like the electrician said stay away from that tree.
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OP, grab a good lightbulb and climb the tree and once up near the line, look for any loose wires up by the pole. If you find any that are frayed, touch the lightbulb to the loose wires to check if they are live. I forgot to mention to make sure your hair is wet, as this will act as a Tesla ground for any loose voltage in the atmosphere.

Once you find the live wires, wrap some aluminum foil around the connections and seal with duct tape.

The electricians in here will tell you that this is the best way to go.
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Yes, sounds like the wind disconnected a line and all you have is 220 now. I would turn off the AC and then turn off the main breaker until you have a new service connection, If its loose at the pole (street) it may be the power company who will fix it but if its loose at the house you may be required to pay, Call the power company and tell them its a hazard and that company will advise. If you do not turn off the main breaker you can destroy electronics such as computers / TV's or may already be toast.
Tell them its a fire hazard at it wont take along time for them to show up.
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


Central heat uses 220-240 volts dufus.
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Unless it's gas.
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


if one of the phases is shorted out then only 125 is coming in on one side.. that is why one circuit in his house is working.

I do not understand why all his 125 volt circuits are not working though... weird?

his oven and dryer should not work.. not enough voltage. has he or she tried them yet?

a short before you will not affect you, they can leave power on etc.. they are in effect cut out of the circuit there...

but like the electrician said stay away from that tree.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


In the US. Three wires. 120v, 120v, and a neutral.
220 appliances use both 120s to get 240.
One 120 usually feeds ½ the house, the other 120 feds the other half.
If the neutral breaks, you could get 60v one one ½ and 180 on the other half (depending on load) and 220v to the 220v appliances.

Don't open any panels or meters. Check voltage at the outlets. Give the trouble-shooter a cup of coffee when he arrives.
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as someone stated above, one of the phases is probably in worse shape than the other. I would for sure kill the mains, and as stated above stay far away from the tree. current can travel underground in strange ways great distances for no reason.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Yup;sounds like a good guess: so anything that runs on 220 oven, dryer etc will not work correctly and will load down the "good"phase. Central heat and a few lights will probably be fine...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


if one of the phases is shorted out then only 125 is coming in on one side.. that is why one circuit in his house is working.

I do not understand why all his 125 volt circuits are not working though... weird?

his oven and dryer should not work.. not enough voltage. has he or she tried them yet?

a short before you will not affect you, they can leave power on etc.. they are in effect cut out of the circuit there...

but like the electrician said stay away from that tree.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


In the US. Three wires. 120v, 120v, and a neutral.
220 appliances use both 120s to get 240.
One 120 usually feeds ½ the house, the other 120 feds the other half.
If the neutral breaks, you could get 60v one one ½ and 180 on the other half (depending on load) and 220v to the 220v appliances.

Don't open any panels or meters. Check voltage at the outlets. Give the trouble-shooter a cup of coffee when he arrives.
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Give him a good lightbulb too because he's going to want to climb the tree to test and look for any loose wires up by the pole.
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Re: Any electricians in the house?
You lost one of your 2 phases coming into your house. Anything requiring 220V won't work and could be damaged if energized.
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Yes once you loose neutral some appliances may get up to 220VAC and be fried, Also some things may burn up.





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