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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77414466 United States 03/01/2019 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tesla believed gravity is a result of the ether compressing everything. Quoting: Yuga Sage (The Red Pill) It is the pressure of cold space on our planet. there is no ether. Ok, how about a rational explanation not requiring 'science'. Gravity as experienced on our planet is a force that keeps your feet on the ground. Without the planet earth below your feet, you would have little need to walk and your legs would eventually fall off from lack of use. Ok thats finished. Now 'science types' should start studying more important concepts instead. Like, for example; what jobs are available to a fool that spends fifty times the yearly average income to attend school to study worthless meaningless stupid intellectually stimulating fluff. Hmm, can't even cook a burger, even Spongebob deserves better wages. The creator made the forces to hold everything in the physical reality together and make it all work. I like it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77414466 United States 03/01/2019 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the forces are electrostatic in nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414466 Gravity results from the attraction of neutrons to both protons and electrons through electrostatics. The force equals the inverse over the square of distance formulas works on all of the forces, nuclear, magnetic, electrostatics and gravity. The first question most physicists ask me when I say this is "why do elements which contain no Neutrons experience gravity? Well, they don't unless it involves another mass containing neutrons, and in that case their electrons and protons are electrostatically attracted to neutrons. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77414466 United States 03/01/2019 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hydrogen is the only element that doesn't have neutrons in the normal state. Hydrogen has three naturally occurring isotopes: 1H (protium), 2H (deuterium), and 3H (tritium),which allow for the "clumping" of hydrogen in space. Without neutrons there is no gravity because the overall electrostatic force between the electrically charged elements of atoms is zero (equal number of protons and electrons). The force of gravity can be mathematically predicted by the number of neutrons present overall in both masses involved |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884636 United States 03/01/2019 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the case of the earth and us on it, it can then be understood that the constant acceleration of ~9.8m/s we experience and call gravity is simply a centripetal function of the angular rotational momentum of the whole earth which is the sum of the angular vector energy of the aproximate 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 atoms that make up the spatially localized aggregate matter that we call home. The path towards a "anti-gravity" device can be seen through this lense; a conversion of angular rotational energy into orbital angular energy (ie. a sum total angular momentum which is vertically perpendicular out of phase with that of the largest localized aggregation of matter) |
Zerubayah User ID: 72884636 United States 03/01/2019 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe gravity is actually just a manifestation of the inherent centripetal force of condensed matter. All matter is itself in fact made up of subatomic "particles" (which I believe are actually solitonic wave packets of always moving pure energy) which are orbiting and rotating around themselves in various configurations forming distinctly individually identifiable particles we call atoms. When any amount of these atoms then draw themselves into unified general equilibrium concentrated in one relative contiguous spatial/temporal location (ie. aggregate matter), due to the conservation of momentum the sum of all the tiny motion vectors of each atom are also then expressed on the macro scale of that aggregation as an apparent force maintaining the that cohesion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72884636 In the case of the earth and us on it, it can then be understood that the constant acceleration of ~9.8m/s we experience and call gravity is simply a centripetal function of the angular rotational momentum of the whole earth which is the sum of the angular vector energy of the aproximate 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 atoms that make up the spatially localized aggregate matter that we call home. The path towards a "anti-gravity" device can be seen through this lense; a conversion of angular rotational energy into orbital angular energy (ie. a sum total angular momentum which is vertically perpendicular out of phase with that of the largest localized aggregation of matter) Oops got signed out, that was me. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77413037 United States 03/01/2019 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting subject OP. You might be interested in reading about the Gravity Research Center. It was founded by businessman Roger Babson here in New Hampshire. His biography is online. He had a fascinating life. Was a huge admirer of Issac Newton and collected many of his things even his bed. Story is Babson felt if gravity was better understood his sister may not have drowned as a child. At the time he called those forces gravity for not much was known about electromagnetic forces. He left granite monuments at various colleges with sayings such as “remember gravity”. The center spent about 20 years studying gravity and didn’t come up with anything new apparently then moved to Massachusetts. Intriguing man Babson was as well as the subject of gravity. Quoting: aliasx [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to www.gravityresearchfoundation.org (secure)] :thread kitty1: :Fivestars2: Physicists have wasted decades and billions of dollars chasing theories about nonsense because they realize that they have no idea about how to really define gravity or how to counter it effectively. It is easier to think up some nonsense like "string theory" or "god particle" which can never really be proven or used than to try to tackle gravity. They have no idea. What about Tesla? I think he would agree with what you’re saying. Didn’t he say gravity didn’t exist? Said the moon was tethered to earth. Tesla believed it was more electromagnetism than gravity. The problem with science today is that honest scientific investigation isn't done very often. The researchers have to accept as fact certain things and don't get any funding if they eschew those "facts". Yes, Tesla leaned more toward the electromagnetism as that became his major focus in life. However, even his brilliant mind decided to tackle other subjects besides gravity. Many theories out there but nothing useful has ever come out about gravity. That is a sure sign that none of the theories are correct. |
Deplorable Xeven User ID: 75705204 United States 03/01/2019 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To know gravity you must know space. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77413037 United States 03/01/2019 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the forces are electrostatic in nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414466 Gravity results from the attraction of neutrons to both protons and electrons through electrostatics. The force equals the inverse over the square of distance formulas works on all of the forces, nuclear, magnetic, electrostatics and gravity. The first question most physicists ask me when I say this is "why do elements which contain no Neutrons experience gravity? Well, they don't unless it involves another mass containing neutrons, and in that case their electrons and protons are electrostatically attracted to neutrons. If your theory was correct, anti gravity craft would be easy. Simply make a craft that is made with 90% non neuton elements and "float" above the effects of gravity. Your theory falls apart. |
Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States 03/01/2019 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic based more than likely. No matter that substance that pull would more than likely be from the magnetism of it. For us it is from our core get out of it area and lose its pull. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
Zerubayah User ID: 74898349 United States 03/01/2019 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the forces are electrostatic in nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414466 Gravity results from the attraction of neutrons to both protons and electrons through electrostatics. The force equals the inverse over the square of distance formulas works on all of the forces, nuclear, magnetic, electrostatics and gravity. The first question most physicists ask me when I say this is "why do elements which contain no Neutrons experience gravity? Well, they don't unless it involves another mass containing neutrons, and in that case their electrons and protons are electrostatically attracted to neutrons. If your theory was correct, anti gravity craft would be easy. Simply make a craft that is made with 90% non neuton elements and "float" above the effects of gravity. Your theory falls apart. Ummmmm, isn't there already a craft made of 90% of matter without neutrons (aka Hydrogen)... pretty sure they were called zeppelins or somethingn and if I remember correctly they do indeed float quite nicely. Last Edited by Zerubayah on 03/01/2019 05:46 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77413037 United States 03/01/2019 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the forces are electrostatic in nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414466 Gravity results from the attraction of neutrons to both protons and electrons through electrostatics. The force equals the inverse over the square of distance formulas works on all of the forces, nuclear, magnetic, electrostatics and gravity. The first question most physicists ask me when I say this is "why do elements which contain no Neutrons experience gravity? Well, they don't unless it involves another mass containing neutrons, and in that case their electrons and protons are electrostatically attracted to neutrons. If your theory was correct, anti gravity craft would be easy. Simply make a craft that is made with 90% non neuton elements and "float" above the effects of gravity. Your theory falls apart. Ummmmm, isn't there already a craft made of 90% of matter without neutrons (aka Hydrogen)... pretty sure they were called zeppelins or somethingn and if I remember correctly they do indeed float quite nicely. Exactly, however they float because they are lighter than the surrounding atmosphere not because they are anti gravity as he suggests. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77413037 United States 03/01/2019 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic based more than likely. No matter that substance that pull would more than likely be from the magnetism of it. Quoting: Wondering Mind For us it is from our core get out of it area and lose its pull. Science tends to link gravity with magnetism however gravity works on all matter, magnets do not. However, magnetism itself is also not well understood. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74895481 United States 03/01/2019 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gravity ie. MASS was what they were looking for at the subatomic level at CERN. supposedly the higgs boson which is a particle the accounts for the gravity of an atom. It was a huge fraud. Gravity isn't a particle. |
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Teslahowitzer User ID: 75137531 United States 03/01/2019 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Control and manipulation of gravity is mankind’s biggest hurdle, and yet we only have theories until a real practical breakthrough emerges. Odd than there is evidence that our ancestors knew the secrets... Frequency of the exact magnetic field control from 360 degrees simultaneously will only give you local weightlessness. Propulsion and direction requires additional energies. It is electric in nature and the energy required is not quite plausible yet with our technology... currently. I want a flying Daytona Charger Hemi.... |
Torchie User ID: 77354011 United States 03/01/2019 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people like gravity on their turkey at Thanksgiving.... or is that gravy? I prefer oats untying the shoelaces of the internet one post at a time love tastes best from teal buckets go GIT in your STALL! a Spark does not fall far from the Torchie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61625577 United States 03/01/2019 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would anyone who really had any idea of what gravity really is share it with the world? Such a person would have to be smart, at the very least insightful. A person who would give that secret to the world would be anything but smart and certainly not insightful. There, now you know why it's not happening. |
Teslahowitzer User ID: 75137531 United States 03/01/2019 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would anyone who really had any idea of what gravity really is share it with the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61625577 Such a person would have to be smart, at the very least insightful. A person who would give that secret to the world would be anything but smart and certainly not insightful. There, now you know why it's not happening. Why you say that? It would literally propel mankind to the stars. A perpetual powered generator for your home that would last forever. Unlimited potiental. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75761288 United States 03/01/2019 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gravity is tied to the fact that matter even exists, its like a by product. Why is the speed of light the basis of our reality? Something has to be slowing it down or is being slowed down to create matter as we know it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32943040 United States 03/01/2019 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What gravity really is? I believe Albert Einstein answered that question about a century ago. Since then, his theory has been tested successfully many, many times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70672556 What you REALLY meant to say is: nothing else matters in physics as much as how gravity is related to the three other forces of nature. No, I meant exactly what I said. "counter and use it." In other words, anti gravity. anti gravity is heat.. that is what makes a rocket work. Breaks the cold pressure of space. My step ladder is an anti-gravity device too. Don't quit your day job. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61625577 United States 03/01/2019 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would anyone who really had any idea of what gravity really is share it with the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61625577 Such a person would have to be smart, at the very least insightful. A person who would give that secret to the world would be anything but smart and certainly not insightful. There, now you know why it's not happening. Why you say that? It would literally propel mankind to the stars. A perpetual powered generator for your home that would last forever. Unlimited potiental. That's exactly why it's not happening. Spread this decaying cesspool of "society" across the cosmos? Only a fool would commit to such an undertaking. Jeff Bozos has committed his fortune to exactly that. If money is all it takes, why are you worried? |
Arthur Jackson User ID: 76244356 United States 03/01/2019 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a consequence of the curvature of space-time caused by mass. It’s not a force. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32943040 United States 03/01/2019 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gravity is all in your mind. Ask Wiley Coyote. Gravity is not 'a' force and force is not gravity - force is only the means by which we know if it is there. All of establishment science is one giant fairy tale, believed to the extent that the whole story is contorted to fit together. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77381745 United States 03/01/2019 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetic based more than likely. No matter that substance that pull would more than likely be from the magnetism of it. Quoting: Wondering Mind For us it is from our core get out of it area and lose its pull. Science tends to link gravity with magnetism however gravity works on all matter, magnets do not. However, magnetism itself is also not well understood. Ken Wheeler knows. Gravity is the incoherent form of magnetism. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77413037 United States 03/02/2019 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would anyone who really had any idea of what gravity really is share it with the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61625577 Such a person would have to be smart, at the very least insightful. A person who would give that secret to the world would be anything but smart and certainly not insightful. There, now you know why it's not happening. Why you say that? It would literally propel mankind to the stars. A perpetual powered generator for your home that would last forever. Unlimited potiental. That's exactly why it's not happening. Spread this decaying cesspool of "society" across the cosmos? Only a fool would commit to such an undertaking. Jeff Bozos has committed his fortune to exactly that. If money is all it takes, why are you worried? Its not about money, its about a brain more powerful than even Teslas. Tesla may have been able to figure it out but he had a human lifespan. |