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INDIA NUKE WAR TARDS - Nuclear War Winter is NOT possible

 
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A nuclear war will not - cannot - cause a “nuclear winter”

the idea was that burning cities would put a lot of dust and soot into the stratosphere where it would take years to come down and cause a nuclear winter

But we have (inadvertently) run the experiments - today's wild fires a much much worse than any posible city fire - and no nuclear winter!

To actually make a “Nuclear Winter” we need to be talking about tens or hundreds of MILLIONS of tons of dust

A volcano is a different thing

Volcanos DO put cubic miles of dust into the upper atmosphere

Mount Pinatubo - Wikipedia

This eruption put about 19 MILLION tons of dust into the upper atmosphere and this caused a worldwide temperature drop of about 0.5C

So a bigger or many bigger eruptions could cause a “Volcanic Winter”

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The effects of the eruption were felt worldwide. It ejected roughly 10,000,000,000 tonnes (1.1×1010 short tons) or 10 km3 (2.4 cu mi) of magma, and 20,000,000 tonnes straight into the stratosphere

No nuclear winter resulted, all of the worlds inhabitants lived.
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how many open air tests did the US do with nukes??

google it.
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An estimated 540 million tons (490,000 kilotons) of ash drifted up to 2,200 square miles (5,700 square km)

Most of that was blown straight into the stratosphere with the initial first two blasts.
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APART FROM ALL THAT RADIATION I GUESS
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APART FROM ALL THAT RADIATION I GUESS
 Quoting: mr jenzie


Once again..... the radiation from a nuclear weapon is a lot cleaner than the radioactive waste water that is being dumped into the ocean on a daily basis at Fukushima.
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APART FROM ALL THAT RADIATION I GUESS
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YUP your right..Good Evening Jenzie..
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APART FROM ALL THAT RADIATION I GUESS
 Quoting: mr jenzie


Once again..... the radiation from a nuclear weapon is a lot cleaner than the radioactive waste water that is being dumped into the ocean on a daily basis at Fukushima.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


I think the US has tested over 1000 open air nukes

pretty stupid but still we are still here.
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APART FROM ALL THAT RADIATION I GUESS
 Quoting: mr jenzie


Once again..... the radiation from a nuclear weapon is a lot cleaner than the radioactive waste water that is being dumped into the ocean on a daily basis at Fukushima.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


I think the US has tested over 1000 open air nukes

pretty stupid but still we are still here.
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One does wonder..Does one not..

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the idea was that burning cities would put a lot of dust and soot into the stratosphere

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It is not the burning cities...it's the nuclear explosion!

What do you think the mushroom cloud is?

It's a massive amount of dirt/dust/particles being blown up into the atmosphere.
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Well I'm all set I say go for it.

I am tired of these weaklings.
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First off the YIELD plays a big part in how much and how high debris, dust, melted eyeballs etc etc is blown into the sky.

Secondly MOST strategic nukes now are air bursts and the damage is done by heat radiation and the shock blast. A bunker-buster of course will blow more shiiite (or is Pakiland mostly sunni? I forget) into the atmosphere than one that dets. at 5,000ft or so.

Between 1945 and 1972 *SALT1) the number of nukes that were tested by the USA, Russia, France, Britain, China and South Africa was almost 5,000 if I remember correctly ... and we're all still here. MANY of those tests were VERY dirty - at ground level mostly in remote desert areas, in the water or just above the surface.

THIS is kinda neat. A running record of every nuke detonated between the years mentioned and then AFTER SALT-11 All Russian, USa, China, France etc etc tests were underground with little to NO seepage of any radionucliedes into the atmosphere.

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the idea was that burning cities would put a lot of dust and soot into the stratosphere

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It is not the burning cities...it's the nuclear explosion!

What do you think the mushroom cloud is?

It's a massive amount of dirt/dust/particles being blown up into the atmosphere.
 Quoting: Mental Case


And the only thing large enough to cause a "nuclear" winter is a super volcano like the one in Yellowstone. And that is 100,000 fatman bombs.
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Basically:

On Nov. 1, 1983, leading Russian and American scientists -- including author Carl Sagan -- discussed the possible consequences of a nuclear war.

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The effects of volcanic ash on the climate lasts generally just some years, as the relatively heavy particles tend to sink into lower layers of the atmosphere, where they are washed out by rain. Smoke and dust from widespread fires after a nuclear war would be much finer and stuck in the dry layers of the atmosphere for much longer; according to some estimates, for at least five years, and in the most pessimistic model, for 25 years and longer.

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Some people will survive, we are just accustomed to less, and to harder living.It's fine that weakling suicide and die off, who misses them? They always were bitches to deal with.
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If there is ever a nuclear war between India and Pakistan, all the turds dropped on the ground explode and create a huge nitrogen bomb.
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What if I live in a bunker already,

made of trees and mud? Is thatg even legal?

Fuck no

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If there is ever a nuclear war between India and Pakistan, all the turds dropped on the ground explode and create a huge nitrogen bomb.
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And this is also called as Nuclear Fussion.
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"...Yuri Andropov, head of the KGB, “ordered the Soviet Academy of Sciences to produce a doomsday report to incite more demonstrations in West Germany”. They applied some older work by a scientist named Kirill Kondratyev on the cooling effect of dust storms in the Karakum Desert to the impact of a nuclear exchange in Germany.

Tretyakov said: “I was told the Soviet scientists knew this theory was completely ridiculous. There were no legitimate facts to support it. But it was exactly what Andropov needed to cause terror in the West...”

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And the only thing large enough to cause a "nuclear" winter is a super volcano like the one in Yellowstone. And that is 100,000 fatman bombs.

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And a tiny 1 megaton bomb is 1,000 fatmans.
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Fuck this shit I am digging down. I mean further down. I'm going Oakensheild on this shit I am gonna find the arkenstone, later surface lames.

Mole man, there's my favorite comic book movie villan, not really a villan just good sense to dig down. Fuckin Tesla goofball has gigantic digging machines, no fuckin way am I obeying any fuckin laws any more fuck all of you lawsuckers.
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Lot of what-ifs here:
- How big of a nuclear war? Limited strike vs full exchange?
- Air burst vs ground burst?
- Time of year (fall or spring would be worse because of lots of dry vegetation)

Also, keep in mind Sagan also said that a mini version of this would happen with the Kuwait oil fires in 1991 during the first gulf war, and nothing happened (outside a mess in Kuwait).

So in other words, I really have no idea, and most on this site don't either.
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Some people will survive, we are just accustomed to less, and to harder living.It's fine that weakling suicide and die off, who misses them? They always were bitches to deal with.
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Then there are those who are older, who had so much wisdom to offer, the ill, who, when well again would have been very hard workers, the children, the only hope of the world - but yeah - kill off the weaklings. You'll be so much better off that way.
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This was proven a long time ago. No nuclear winter. It was a 1970s fear mongering hoax.
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Pakistan already lost 300 people... so their war won't be without casualties.

India has 2 billion people.
Islam has 2 billion people.

depopulate.
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What concerns me is not nuclear winter; it is the possibility of 50 million dead, decaying bodies on the Indian sub-continent that cause an outbreak that will turn into a global pandemic.

Nuclear winter, as explained by Sagan in the 70s, was his fucking hippy fear-mongering. What is very real, 900 million starving fuckers and the disease and famine that will follow.

People needn't worry too much though, because some magic man or messiah will save us, right? Some imaginary friends will intervene.

Goddamn mental midgets.
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Pakistan already lost 300 people... so their war won't be without casualties.

India has 2 billion people.
Islam has 2 billion people.

depopulate.
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there are easier ways
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Pakistan already lost 300 people... so their war won't be without casualties.

India has 2 billion people.
Islam has 2 billion people.

depopulate.
 Quoting: MissCleo



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#Pakistan employs a National Command Authority with collective deliberation on the use of nuclear weapons. It is unknown if there is pre-delegation. Pakistan refuses to adopt a no-first-use policy.
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Pakistan already lost 300 people... so their war won't be without casualties.

India has 2 billion people.
Islam has 2 billion people.

depopulate.
 Quoting: MissCleo



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#Pakistan employs a National Command Authority with collective deliberation on the use of nuclear weapons. It is unknown if there is pre-delegation. Pakistan refuses to adopt a no-first-use policy.
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Pakistan already lost 300 people... so their war won't be without casualties.

India has 2 billion people.
Islam has 2 billion people.

depopulate.
 Quoting: MissCleo



Dooom

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What concerns me is not nuclear winter; it is the possibility of 50 million dead, decaying bodies on the Indian sub-continent that cause an outbreak that will turn into a global pandemic.

Nuclear winter, as explained by Sagan in the 70s, was his fucking hippy fear-mongering. What is very real, 900 million starving fuckers and the disease and famine that will follow.

People needn't worry too much though, because some magic man or messiah will save us, right? Some imaginary friends will intervene.

Goddamn mental midgets.
 Quoting: Gray_Man


We are talking about a popluation of 1.3 billion people who openly defecate in public anywhere.


Were talking about an literal open sewer. They already have disease.





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