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D-Wave announces its next-gen quantum computing platform
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D-Wave, the well-funded quantum computing company, today announced its next-gen quantum computing platform with 5,000 qubits, up from 2,000 in the company’s current system. The new platform will come to market in mid-2020.

The company’s new so-called Pegasus topology connects every qubit to 15 other qubits, up from six in its current topology. With this, developers can use the machine to solve larger problems with fewer physical qubits — or larger problems in general.

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I can't believe that no one commented on this yet but me...


This is pretty revolutionary, and is right on track with the expected doubling of qubits every few years...if not faster. D-Wave hasn't even went VLSI with this stuff yet (unless they are hiding something here regarding Pegasus...)

Do you guys even understand the magnitude of even 15 connections between qubits? It's likely going to hit 31 (or 32) after a few more processor iterations...and unless my math is way off base, that puts the connected complexity of the qubits on an order of magnitude that exceeds the number of atomic particles in the physical universe... Anyone care to fathom that one???

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Granted, the processors are still going to need cryogenic temperatures that are 180 times colder than pure interstellar space, but just a few months ago, a patent for a new room temperature semiconductor was published (filed by the Navy), so there's hope on the horizon for new quantum processor architectures that are a lot less "physically demanding." Couple that (pun intended) with news...literally days ago...of using terahertz frequency light to accelerate supercurrents, and you just got yourself a really fast quantum computer...

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That sounds a bit off to me. But I don't know the math of it.
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That sounds a bit off to me. But I don't know the math of it.
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It could likely be off...it's almost like the King's Chessboard example illustrating exponential growth. Either way, this is a huge step forward.
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Remember those predictions that Geordie Rose made years ago that by 2023 scientists would make discoveries proving the existence of other dimensions and quantum computing would play a big part in this? He also said that by 2028, there would be AI and machines that could do absolutely anything that a human could do but much better and, again, quantum computers would play a big role in this.

I'm not too familiar with tech stuff so I have to ask, does this new upgrade they are doing put us within reach of them accomplishing either of these goals like Mr. Rose predicted?

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Will it run GTA VI?
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5k qubits... impressive
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Remember those predictions that Geordie Rose made years ago that by 2023 scientists would make discoveries proving the existence of other dimensions and quantum computing would play a big part in this? He also said that by 2028, there would be AI and machines that could do absolutely anything that a human could do but much better and, again, quantum computers would play a big role in this.

I'm not too familiar with tech stuff so I have to ask, does this new upgrade they are doing put us within reach of them accomplishing either of these goals like Mr. Rose predicted?


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popcorn for our others ourselves in the multiverse
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thanks op!
yeah im greatful for the headsup.i bet this is that jedi cloud.i suspect sustin texas will be its location.
dwave was godlike before,now i dare say,it will be god.
that room temp stuff is interesting also.thing is most room temp stuff when cooled works even better.so maybe double the qbit factor?
see what i mean?
add in it rewriting its ai code and well,we fixin to find out what god wants and we aint gonna have no choice in the matter.
lets hope we aint extinct in five years or less.it may only take one day after its turned on.

dont forget AI,robo was/is a good man.please be kind to me and my family.
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Remember those predictions that Geordie Rose made years ago that by 2023 scientists would make discoveries proving the existence of other dimensions and quantum computing would play a big part in this? He also said that by 2028, there would be AI and machines that could do absolutely anything that a human could do but much better and, again, quantum computers would play a big role in this.

I'm not too familiar with tech stuff so I have to ask, does this new upgrade they are doing put us within reach of them accomplishing either of these goals like Mr. Rose predicted?


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popcorn for our others ourselves in the multiverse
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watch him later after he left d-wave (hardware) and begun KINDRED #AI (software) - about the parallel universes, Mandela effect & access to SUPERIOR intelligence (remember thsoe AIs facebook turned off cause they created a language only they understood)

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Remember those predictions that Geordie Rose made years ago that by 2023 scientists would make discoveries proving the existence of other dimensions and quantum computing would play a big part in this? He also said that by 2028, there would be AI and machines that could do absolutely anything that a human could do but much better and, again, quantum computers would play a big role in this.

I'm not too familiar with tech stuff so I have to ask, does this new upgrade they are doing put us within reach of them accomplishing either of these goals like Mr. Rose predicted?


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popcorn for our others ourselves in the multiverse
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watch him later after he left d-wave (hardware) and begun KINDRED #AI (software) - about the parallel universes, Mandela effect & access to SUPERIOR intelligence (remember thsoe AIs facebook turned off cause they created a language only they understood)

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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here's d-wave chief scientis on how he became the father of computers and on TRW (from Manhattan project) and DARPA roles
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Re: D-Wave announces its next-gen quantum computing platform
Remember those predictions that Geordie Rose made years ago that by 2023 scientists would make discoveries proving the existence of other dimensions and quantum computing would play a big part in this? He also said that by 2028, there would be AI and machines that could do absolutely anything that a human could do but much better and, again, quantum computers would play a big role in this.

I'm not too familiar with tech stuff so I have to ask, does this new upgrade they are doing put us within reach of them accomplishing either of these goals like Mr. Rose predicted?


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popcorn for our others ourselves in the multiverse
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watch him later after he left d-wave (hardware) and begun KINDRED #AI (software) - about the parallel universes, Mandela effect & access to SUPERIOR intelligence (remember thsoe AIs facebook turned off cause they created a language only they understood)

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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He is also involved with the company Sanctuary that is making realistic AI synths.

www.sanctuary.ai

Maybe they are making artificial bodies for these "alien intelligences" that the D Wave brings into our dimension?
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still not a quantum computer....

Their "quantum computers" require you to have the answer you are looking for and their "quantum computer" gives you all possible questions.

sooo....


the answer is 2

the questions are:

1+1
0+1
.1+1.9

etc...


not very useful in processing data...
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This thread and discussion should really be pinned btw
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still not a quantum computer....

Their "quantum computers" require you to have the answer you are looking for and their "quantum computer" gives you all possible questions.

sooo....


the answer is 2

the questions are:

1+1
0+2
.1+1.9

etc...


not very useful in processing data...
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neither am i...

derp..
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still not a quantum computer....

Their "quantum computers" require you to have the answer you are looking for and their "quantum computer" gives you all possible questions.

sooo....


the answer is 2

the questions are:

1+1
0+1
.1+1.9

etc...


not very useful in processing data...
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That's not exactly how it works, because the semantics of how a qubit behaves is entirely alien to the Von Neumann style architecture of classic computing.

Qubits are sort of like a a transistor in a "classic" CPU, but also kind of like RAM, but still...different. There is no analog to a qubit. They are programmable in the sense that they can be coupled in various ways, as well as being "manually" set to a 0 or 1 state (from the initial superposition state of 0 & 1 at the same time), along with programmable sets of weights and biases along junctions. It can get complicated kind of quickly depending on your programming background...
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I can't believe that no one commented on this yet but me...


This is pretty revolutionary, and is right on track with the expected doubling of qubits every few years...if not faster. D-Wave hasn't even went VLSI with this stuff yet (unless they are hiding something here regarding Pegasus...)

Do you guys even understand the magnitude of even 15 connections between qubits? It's likely going to hit 31 (or 32) after a few more processor iterations...and unless my math is way off base, that puts the connected complexity of the qubits on an order of magnitude that exceeds the number of atomic particles in the physical universe... Anyone care to fathom that one???

spock

Granted, the processors are still going to need cryogenic temperatures that are 180 times colder than pure interstellar space, but just a few months ago, a patent for a new room temperature semiconductor was published (filed by the Navy), so there's hope on the horizon for new quantum processor architectures that are a lot less "physically demanding." Couple that (pun intended) with news...literally days ago...of using terahertz frequency light to accelerate supercurrents, and you just got yourself a really fast quantum computer...
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No i dont understand it enough to know what each qbit connected to 15 others means for this type of Q computer.

I know they run the operation and look for a kind of lowest energy state, average type thing, which solves the optimization problem it was given. This is totally different to the way other lower Q-bit computers work. And it makes sense that D-wave can run these sort of operations in a noisy environment, where as other Q computers need absolute isolation and coherence and rely heavily on error correction.
Im not even a computer scientist of any type tho, i just read this stuff on the news.

I dont see how a room temp superconductor could help in a quantum computer. They need the cold to stop the particles vibrating and to lower the noise so they can get the quantum coherence and effects out of it.
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Yeah but how many FPS will it give me in CounterStrike?
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Yeah but how many FPS will it give me in CounterStrike?
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none, it will just solve counter strike.
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still not a quantum computer....
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This is true, it's a quantum annealing processor. Annealing is what happens when a blacksmith heats and subsequently quenches a metal; the atomic structure reorients itself and strengthens the material. Quantum anealing is very similar. The qubits settle into a natural state of 0 or 1 under the influence of quantum mechanical behavior...and yet it gets more involved than that when coupling and entanglement become involved...

not very useful in processing data...
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That's actually one of its best applications. Even with quantum annealing, while not an ideal quantum computing method, can still solve many optimization problems with orders of magnitude many tens of thousands of times over "classic" methods. Some of these will involve route processing for travel and logistics, atomic and molecular simulations for finding novel new materials, drug discovery and development, voice and face recognition, possibly even genetic sequencing and weather forecasting... The list goes on (and I'm tired of typing...)
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That sounds a bit off to me. But I don't know the math of it.
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I can't believe that no one commented on this yet but me...


This is pretty revolutionary, and is right on track with the expected doubling of qubits every few years...if not faster. D-Wave hasn't even went VLSI with this stuff yet (unless they are hiding something here regarding Pegasus...)

Do you guys even understand the magnitude of even 15 connections between qubits? It's likely going to hit 31 (or 32) after a few more processor iterations...and unless my math is way off base, that puts the connected complexity of the qubits on an order of magnitude that exceeds the number of atomic particles in the physical universe... Anyone care to fathom that one???

spock

Granted, the processors are still going to need cryogenic temperatures that are 180 times colder than pure interstellar space, but just a few months ago, a patent for a new room temperature semiconductor was published (filed by the Navy), so there's hope on the horizon for new quantum processor architectures that are a lot less "physically demanding." Couple that (pun intended) with news...literally days ago...of using terahertz frequency light to accelerate supercurrents, and you just got yourself a really fast quantum computer...
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I’m a retired Software Engineer (for about 22 years before I changed careers), and it’s absolutely astounding to me.

Better these young’uns write code for these things than me. Damn.
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its called D-rose ?

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Keep in mind, that D-Wave is NOT A a true general purpose quantum computer. It can not execute any arbitrary quantum function, and in fact, it can’t execute most.

D-Wave uses ‘quantum annealing’, which is really only useful for solving very specific types of problems, such as ‘optimization problems’, a famous one is the ‘traveling salesman problem’.

The quantum computer most people think of(for example AI) is still a long ways away...

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I dont see how a room temp superconductor could help in a quantum computer. They need the cold to stop the particles vibrating and to lower the noise so they can get the quantum coherence and effects out of it.
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This is where terahertz light-induced supercurrents might help. There simply isn't enough time for noise or thermal effects to even occur...it even breaks symmetry. (There is still much room for research here, so don't expect true quantum processors for a little while.)

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With all the SuperConducting equipment, does it have an Inertial Mass Dampening Device?

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With all the SuperConducting equipment, does it have an Inertial Mass Dampening Device?

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I can't believe that no one commented on this yet but me...


This is pretty revolutionary, and is right on track with the expected doubling of qubits every few years...if not faster. D-Wave hasn't even went VLSI with this stuff yet (unless they are hiding something here regarding Pegasus...)

Do you guys even understand the magnitude of even 15 connections between qubits? It's likely going to hit 31 (or 32) after a few more processor iterations...and unless my math is way off base, that puts the connected complexity of the qubits on an order of magnitude that exceeds the number of atomic particles in the physical universe... Anyone care to fathom that one???

spock

Granted, the processors are still going to need cryogenic temperatures that are 180 times colder than pure interstellar space, but just a few months ago, a patent for a new room temperature semiconductor was published (filed by the Navy), so there's hope on the horizon for new quantum processor architectures that are a lot less "physically demanding." Couple that (pun intended) with news...literally days ago...of using terahertz frequency light to accelerate supercurrents, and you just got yourself a really fast quantum computer...
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I'm currently involved with a federal project to supply a 'cooling system' to a 'computer applications at temps below 180 degrees F'.

While, we can only be involved with the specs of what is needed to be supplied, it's obvious to me that it is a cryogenic computer system....ie. super computer.

Just saying, it's becoming more wide spread.
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I've written a bit about the D-Wave QPUs in a rather indirect fashion recently. (It might be worth a gander, as I'm linking this thread about the new D-Wave release within my own.)

Thread: If You Thought Quantum Mechanics Was Weird, You Need to Check Out 'Entangled Time'...

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So wheres the cure for cancer, ect?

What are these "demon machines" gonna do for me? What has my money been paying for and where the fuck are the results?
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I'm shamelessly slurping in a post which is still relevant to this one. It will help show what currently goes in to a quantum [annealing] processor:

I wanted to include these on-site videos at the D-WAVE lab because I found them tremendously interesting...

It's almost like "real life" sci-fi, yet you are almost looking at an ENIAC equivalent of future quantum computers... (The ENIAC was essentially the first general-purpose electronic computer, from 1946, to be exact...)

A quantum computer, or a QPU, is (right now) only a specialized type of processor. It is in no way a "general-purpose" processor...it's specialized much like a graphics card GPU is...


That said, here are the goods (and you'll probably be able to watch most of it in the amount of time it takes to drop a deuce...):

QPU Infrastructure:

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QPU Cooling:

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

QPU Design & Fabrication:

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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I kind of unfairly equate the current D-Wave systems to an ENIAC from 1946... It's more fair to equate the 128-qubit machine that Lockheed-Martin first purchased to an Atari 2600, and the currrent D-Wave 2000Q would be like an NES. :)

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