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Oh This is Just Great,My Blood Pressure Medicine is Being Recalled Because it Causes CANCER!!

 
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Been taking Atenolol 50 mg daily for my B/P. In the past with my insurance a months supply cost about a dollar out of my pocket. Lately it's costing 3 dollars out of my pocket. Maybe this is due to these other medications being recalled?
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Ain't that some shit?

19 Different Recalls, and I've been taking this shit for years

Cancer Companies must be happy

Needs to be a Class Action Suit against these Companies

The list of blood pressure medication recalls continues to grow, because another pharmaceutical company has pulled its pills from shelves.

[link to www.ajc.com (secure)]




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Most people COULD get their blood pressure normalized the NATURAL way, if only they would investigate it for themselves.

I have gotten many people off their blood pressure meds, as well as diabetes meds as well.
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I'm not taking drugs period.


I lost my apathy.
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I'm not a lab rat.
I lost my apathy.
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Ain't that some shit?

19 Different Recalls, and I've been taking this shit for years

Cancer Companies must be happy

Needs to be a Class Action Suit against these Companies

The list of blood pressure medication recalls continues to grow, because another pharmaceutical company has pulled its pills from shelves.

[link to www.ajc.com (secure)]




damned
 Quoting: Cock Goblin


Most people COULD get their blood pressure normalized the NATURAL way, if only they would investigate it for themselves.

I have gotten many people off their blood pressure meds, as well as diabetes meds as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339822


Yes, it is possible, maybe not for everyone, but for many it is.

My hubby got off of his diabetes and blood pressure meds by changing his diet and lifestyle. It can be done.

He had been on BP meds for years, then when he found out his blood sugar was really high too, he buckled down and got very serious about his health.

The "Create Your Plate" diet and getting exercise by swimming worked for him. He had fallen away from exercising after we moved to the tropics, because it's too hot and humid here. Then we just looked at each other and said, wait a minute, there's a swimming pool nearby. So he can exercise without feeling like he's going to pass out from the heat.
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EAT CELERY AND BANANAS

STAY OFF OF PILLS
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Thread: If you take high blood pressure meds check the bad news here


If you take high blood pressure meds check the bad news here
After reeling with the news that a parent was diagnosed with stage 4 Lung cancer, we get a warning in the mail about the HBP meds are on recall.
After some local research I found 3 people I know or knew on the same meds dead or dying of cancer. Found the below article.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has recalled a common drug used to treat heart conditions after it was found to contain a chemical linked to cancer. The U.S. decision came a week after 22 other countries had recalled the medication.

The FDA flagged concerns about valsartan, which is used to treat high blood pressure and heart failure, on July 13. Officials found traces of the chemical compound N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA) in the recalled products.
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Its high time America start taking responsibility for their own health, instead of trusting these big pharma whores aka "doctors". Pharma drugs are killing thousands daily. ...there is an herbal/natural alternative to every medicine in nature. I lowered my own blood pressure by cutting way back on salt , eliminating all junk food too. Parsely, cream of tartar, dill weed, and many others will flush excess fluids from your body...try to buy organic if possible. If I didn't get off the many pharma drugs I took years ago for all my ailments, I'd prob be dead. Think for yourself. Everyone carries a computer in their pocket now, but people still don't have a clue. Research. Trust only your own judgement, not some guy who gets free vacations from pharma companies for writing you bullshit pills.
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.

 Quoting: akasuzanne



And you got YOUR Medical Degree where, and when???


kittens


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Ain't that some shit?

19 Different Recalls, and I've been taking this shit for years

Cancer Companies must be happy

Needs to be a Class Action Suit against these Companies

The list of blood pressure medication recalls continues to grow, because another pharmaceutical company has pulled its pills from shelves.

[link to www.ajc.com (secure)]




damned
 Quoting: Cock Goblin


Most people COULD get their blood pressure normalized the NATURAL way, if only they would investigate it for themselves.

I have gotten many people off their blood pressure meds, as well as diabetes meds as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339822


Yes, it is possible, maybe not for everyone, but for many it is.

My hubby got off of his diabetes and blood pressure meds by changing his diet and lifestyle. It can be done.

He had been on BP meds for years, then when he found out his blood sugar was really high too, he buckled down and got very serious about his health.

The "Create Your Plate" diet and getting exercise by swimming worked for him. He had fallen away from exercising after we moved to the tropics, because it's too hot and humid here. Then we just looked at each other and said, wait a minute, there's a swimming pool nearby. So he can exercise without feeling like he's going to pass out from the heat.
 Quoting: BirdMom


Yep, BP pills cause diabetes and some cause kidney failure. It is a viscous cycle.
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Take celery seed capsules and magnesium. Eat garlic. Eat salmon or take fish oil capsules.

See this article below for more info


[link to www.lorisnatural.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2



that all depends upon the level of hypertension,
how long has the person been on medications
as these natural deals even admit how much they lower blood pressure and for some of us out here ,that amount is the equivalent OF pissing in the wind.
decreasing the systolic/upper number by 10 points ain't sPit in here.
the natural remedies are only good for the NEW definition of hypertension as anything near/at/above ! 150/90 gets them all worked up-

the crap they had me on that worked minimally,led to chronic renal failure which is progressing level by level.
and yes they know/knew that it causes THIS.
so now the kidney involvement helps to keep that blood pressure stable and high.
was discovered at a dentist,needed an extraction-took my blood pressure---was 224/110-no exaggeration--years ago you would have been sent to the ER,slapped on a stretcher,etc etc NOW ? LOL
stayed around 180/110 on various medications--etc etc
am living and breathing 6 years now w/this,no cardiac involvement-just the kidneys now kicking my arse-

try the breathing exercises-will decrease it a little but does not last through out the day
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.

 Quoting: akasuzanne



And you got YOUR Medical Degree where, and when???


kittens


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72068185


anti-hypertensives are treating the symptom, NOT the cause unless they have diagnosed a renal problem, a cardiac problem, a pulmonary/lung problem.

most cases they don't know the cause-AND "redefining" the parameters is another load of bs and cause for them to push pills WHICH HAVE severe side effects and when YOUR body is acclimated to these drugs, suddenly stopping them CAN cause you to stroke out due to rebound.
restricting salt only lowers it the minimum--search it
and people now have more problems FROM salt restriction etc,cardiac failure due to their bs beta blockers,renal failure from certain anti-hypertensives on and on.
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.

 Quoting: akasuzanne



And you got YOUR Medical Degree where, and when???


kittens


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72068185


anti-hypertensives are treating the symptom, NOT the cause unless they have diagnosed a renal problem, a cardiac problem, a pulmonary/lung problem.

most cases they don't know the cause-AND "redefining" the parameters is another load of bs and cause for them to push pills WHICH HAVE severe side effects and when YOUR body is acclimated to these drugs, suddenly stopping them CAN cause you to stroke out due to rebound.
restricting salt only lowers it the minimum--search it
and people now have more problems FROM salt restriction etc,cardiac failure due to their bs beta blockers,renal failure from certain anti-hypertensives on and on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77289551


This is true. It's not a good idea to stop taking the meds, until your BP starts dropping.

My husband was able to get off his BP meds due to changing his diet and lifestyle, but he didn't start reducing the meds until his blood pressure began falling.

He kept losing weight and getting healthier, then he would feel dizzy and find that his blood pressure was low, so his doctor would cut the dosage of the meds. Then it would happen again, and the meds would be reduced more, and this went on until finally he didn't need them anymore.

My husband never went off the meds on his own though, and he did not stop taking them when his blood pressure was still high. It was only when it got too low that the cuts were made by his doctor who was very happy to see my husband taking charge of his health.

Even now we still keep tabs on my hubby's BP and blood sugar to make sure it's still normal, and he's been off the meds for a couple of years.
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.

 Quoting: akasuzanne



And you got YOUR Medical Degree where, and when???


kittens


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72068185


Anther fool who bows to medical degrees. MD degrees are obtained by the best and hardest working students who learn all the wrong things about making a person well.
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Now.

Your meds are made in India or China.

Steak can be from Mexico and they don’t label it.
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.


 Quoting: akasuzanne


Not according to this site info here:

"Sodium also increases calcium excretion, so following a low-sodium diet might retain your body's calcium levels, promoting bone health. Because they're both very high in sodium, pink and grey sea salts can both boost your sodium intake to unhealthy levels if you're not careful."

source: [link to www.livestrong.com (secure)]
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Remember, just like all of the truth we have learned by not listening to MSM, the same is true for health issues.

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS A LIE.

Salt is not bad, it is essential. White salt is bad because it has been stripped of all but 2 of the 84 essential minerals found in Grey sea salt and Himalayan pink salt.

High blood pressure is not a disease, it is a response to something else going on in your body. Rather than take the poison big pharma and their pushers would have you take, figure out what else is going on. It isn't hard to do.


 Quoting: akasuzanne


Not according to this site info here:

"Sodium also increases calcium excretion, so following a low-sodium diet might retain your body's calcium levels, promoting bone health. Because they're both very high in sodium, pink and grey sea salts can both boost your sodium intake to unhealthy levels if you're not careful."

source: [link to www.livestrong.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408350

Too much of anything is a bad thing. If you watch the first four minutes of this video you will want to watch the rest. The third most vital element for life is sodium. [Barbara ONeill] Water and salt are essential elements for our body. 75% of our body is salt water. Sodium is the main transport system to get water and nutrition to our cells. Let's find out how much water and salt our body need daily to keep it healthy.


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I've been taking it for years as well.

I just found out about this last week. I also read an article where they said They are now using the same drug to treat PTSD because it's proven to reduce fear.

So they are prescribing it for high BP, and PTSD knowing fully, it causes cancer.

Assholes.
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I have a serious inherited heart condition, 3 bros and 3 sisters already gone and the last 3 of us with very high BP hard to control. Tried natural, did weight loss, nothing worked and had to go on BP pills 15 yrs ago. I take the lowest dose and all the vits and natural remedies still, including tumeric with a pinch of black pepper which increases its strength 5o fold.After a couple of years, I rejected the current pilland they give me another and that one two years ago was Metroprolol.(Also valsarten) I always hold the pills in my hand and pray over them asking God to make them work w/o harm. I didnt like the feel of it, but had a slight cardiac "event" months before so I took them, lowest dose possible.

Months later I began having strange symptoms, like rashes and odd marks on arms and legs and developing cervical cysts also which I never ever had. Got into surgury immediately and biopsy was ok. The Next mnth, Indian health called my sisters and me on a Saturday at home and said dont take Sunday dose, we will deliver a substitute to your home Monday a.m.!!! Now new drugs and am having night sweats, tachycardia and Afib. Going in for more tests.
My "good MD' who treats us as adults and listens to us, etc told me that the bad pills come from mostly India and some from China. The known carcinogen is not actually part of the recipee, even.

Lets first: Spread the word and even check relatives Labels for them.
Second, SAVE all pill bottles and get a copy of the sheet from your records that lists your medications.
THen who ever gets some good class action groups,info, let us know
 Quoting: American Indian Elder


Have you heard of the carnivore diet? It seems to be working wonders for many people. I think it gives our body a break from foods we may be allergic to or that are causing problems for whatever reasons. Some foods we genetically can’t handle but have no idea until they are eliminated. So just eating meat for awhile at least will rule out a lot of allergies that could raise blood pressure.
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Protein is hard on the kidneys, and people with high blood pressure are already prone to kidney damage.

I really think the best diet in this case would be something along the lines of the "Create Your Plate" diet. That's what brought my husband's weight, blood sugar, and blood pressure down to normal.

It's simple to follow. One fourth of your plate is meat or a protein food, one fourth of the plate is starch or grains, and half the plate is non-starchy veggies.

In my case, I'm no spring chicken and do have my share of health issues, but my blood sugar is perfect and blood pressure is on the low normal side. I eat a pescatarian diet that also includes organ meats. This diet has helped a lot with the health issues I've been dealing with that started when I got "floxed" due to another nasty pharamaceutical, fluoroquinolone antibiotics.

My diet is primarily ovo-lacto-vegetarian with limited carbs and only fermented dairy products, like plain kefir. I avoid soy, sugar, and grains. A few times a week, I eat fish, and a few times a month, I eat organ meats, like liver or sweetbreads.

For supplements, I take Vitamin C and Magnesium Citrate. The magnesium works wonders, and I would recommend magnesium to anyone with blood pressure problems.
 Quoting: BirdMom


Thanks,all good info. Magnesium is good for restless leg and cramps also, but somehow my body over stores Magnesium so I cant take any extra. I also have Lupus and can have severe flares, yet am almost 80 while "healthy-doctor seeing" friends are gone.I'm a lifelong vegetarian, from age 3, Just before my third birthday I had a dream/vision about people far away (turned out to be China)dying from bird's disease.So my Ojibwe Grandmother said i should never eat fowl or even meat.

My "good MD" when I was diagnosed with Lupus, said that being a vegetarian probably accounted for my good result with it. He does test my B-12 levels and i supplement with that. Fermented foods are great. I use Colloidal silver and get the cancer fighting Ojibwe tea once a year from Herbal Healer.com (Four herb Tea)as a preventative. I might add I wish I knew how to send a photo because my dear husband is ten years younger and people think he's my dad, LOL.No smoking, no drinking (except thanksgiving and new years toasting) no meat,(Fish rarely), Laughter and loving my husband. family and our dearLord can give you a good mostly healthy long life.
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