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NASA Thrust Equation gets destroyed.

 
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OP, please explain the ISS and other satellites seen in the sky per published sighting schedules....how did they all get up there...and stay up there?
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Prove that satellites exist in space and you’re not just seeing a plane flying by.
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K.
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OP, please explain the ISS and other satellites seen in the sky per published sighting schedules....how did they all get up there...and stay up there?
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Prove that satellites exist in space and you’re not just seeing a plane flying by.
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Astro will not be pleased.
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Astro is a pompous, arrogant shill that shuts down opposing view points.
He is a beta
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I don't want to hand out infractions and bans, I don't like doing that, but some of you thrive on your victim mentality when it comes to facing me, even though I'm routinely the least likely mod to ban you. I'm extremely patient and too forgiving, but if you insist on crossing the line then I will have to take action. Don't push it.
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two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
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two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
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None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
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Bad interpretations of facts, even using math, can be BS, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77414673


It’s not bs. The fluid dynamics equation is used in Many industries. The velocity of gas in the nozzle pipe is equal to the exit velocity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76708078


...and it is mass that's being accelerated out of the combustion chamber and out of the rocket engine nozzle. The fuel and oxidizer molecules don't just "go away" at ignition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


In a vacuum I do not think that you can even have combustion.
Above and below certain saturation levels combustion can not take place depending on the combustible.
And, in a vacuum the molecules do just go away as the molecules of combustion have zero resistance.
The molecules would be absorbed by a vacuum faster than they can be ejected from a rocket engine.

You are all just making assumptions based on
a belief without a verifiable demonstration
Have you ever been shown a demonstration of escaping
gas moving an object in a vacuum chamber?


Also, mathematics can be used to prove a lie as well as the truth.
The experiment claiming to have derived the gravitational constant has
never been successfully duplicated to prove the number is correct.
There has never been an attraction of two bodies in a vacuum observed.

It is in the interests of the ruling class that the peasants do not learn how to think.
That is enough from me trying to cast pearls before swine.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


The videos showing just this have been posted in the past, however you morons conveniently dismiss and or ignore them.
Wilful ignorance much?
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In a vacuum I do not think that you can even have combustion.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle

What you think is irrelevant.

If your reasoning based on your interpretation of scientific principles leads you to a DEMONSTRABLY wrong conclusion than your reasoning or your understanding of the relevant scientific principles (or both) must be wrong too.

In science observation beats theory every time.
Rocket propulsion works in space, why it does is secondary.
You not understanding the why, or being very confused about it, doesn't change the facts.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Would be nice if you (or anyone else) can actually provide an experimental proof that rocket propulsion works in a vacuum.

In theory, anything works. Warp engines on USS Enterprise also work...in theory.


However, there isn't even a SINGLE PIECE of experimental evidence that a rocket engine actually WORKS in a vacuum, and there is propulsion.


It's all THEORY, and nothing more. And you BELIEVE it to be FACT, even if there is zero proof.

That is RELIGION. Not SCIENCE.

You, my friend, are a religious nut, believing in things that have no proof.
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Once again, the proof has been provided many times here, and I can only assume you’ve never bothered to search for such experimental proofs, even though you claim there is “zero” proof.
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OP’s mom gets destroyed by my own thrust equation on the reg.
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Why one star? Did you debunk the video? Isn’t the math correct? Clearly the math is correct. NASA is proven mathematically to be liars.
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Unbalanced242 back with another installment of "debunk my video because I'm an asshole with nothing better to do"
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no debunk my video because I know you can't and it's the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76708078


i havent even watched your dumbass video because i dont care
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OP could spend all day on here and post until the tomatoes spoil and Trin banes him, wouldn't change the fact that you'd probably would be in here trolling it up.

If this is how you get your lulz, your lifes a fuckin joke m8!
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Re: NASA Thrust Equation gets destroyed.
two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


For a parabolic microwave dish antenna (DirecTv or DISH network), this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

A parabolic microwave dish antenna MUST be pointed at the source of transmission. Every DirecTV and DISH network antenna in the USA is pointing into the sky.

Here's the link for DISH network pointing guide.
[link to www.mydish.com (secure)]

BTW, DirecTV uses the EchoStar 10 satellite.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


For a parabolic microwave dish antenna (DirecTv or DISH network), this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

A parabolic microwave dish antenna MUST be pointed at the source of transmission. Every DirecTV and DISH network antenna in the USA is pointing into the sky.

Here's the link for DISH network pointing guide.
[link to www.mydish.com (secure)]

BTW, DirecTV uses the EchoStar 10 satellite.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


Just because you dumbass Americans call them satellite dishes doesn't mean that they receive signals from satellites.
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He says the combined and reduced formula no longer needed exit velocity for the equation, but velocity is contained in flow rate. Distance/time is contained in the first equation listed in the fluid dynamics group of three. I assume constant velocity, because a venturi was never mentioned. Therefore flow rate is exit velocity in different units times pipe area.

Plus let go of a fire hose to see mass of fluid times velocity does equal force.

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two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


For a parabolic microwave dish antenna (DirecTv or DISH network), this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

A parabolic microwave dish antenna MUST be pointed at the source of transmission. Every DirecTV and DISH network antenna in the USA is pointing into the sky.

Here's the link for DISH network pointing guide.
[link to www.mydish.com (secure)]

BTW, DirecTV uses the EchoStar 10 satellite.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


Just because you dumbass Americans call them satellite dishes doesn't mean that they receive signals from satellites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


You didn't read one word I posted. Let me help you

PARABOLIC MICROWAVE DISH ANTENNAS MUST BE POINTED AT THE SOURCE OF TRANSMISSION. EVERY DIRECTV AND DISH NETWORK ANTENNAS IN THE USA ARE POINTING INTO THE SKY

Not cell towers or any land based object. Ask anyone who has installed one.
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Re: NASA Thrust Equation gets destroyed.
two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


For a parabolic microwave dish antenna (DirecTv or DISH network), this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

A parabolic microwave dish antenna MUST be pointed at the source of transmission. Every DirecTV and DISH network antenna in the USA is pointing into the sky.

Here's the link for DISH network pointing guide.
[link to www.mydish.com (secure)]

BTW, DirecTV uses the EchoStar 10 satellite.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


Just because you dumbass Americans call them satellite dishes doesn't mean that they receive signals from satellites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


earthworld
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Its pretty simple. No opposing force on the rocket in space. Fling matter out the back and you have propulsion, even with no atmosphere pressure. Nasa didnt think ion thruster would work when first proposed.
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yes...MASS X ACCELLERATION...that is one of God's laws...and it happens around us 24/7/365...action/reaction/...atmosphere or vacuum...what should happen will happen.....it will happen.
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two people, 200 miles apart, see the same object in orbit above them, simultaneously (slightly different azimuths).

Dude, there's only 11,000 or so objects in Earth orbit, nice clear night you might see a couple or few after sunset...some do polar orbits, others more low inclination orbits. Some are living about 100 miles up, others in geosynch around 24k miles out.. it's quite possible you're using one right now.....I am, watching DTV.

believe what you want, it's what you really know that matters.. and without satellites in orbit around Earth, we'd be in the 50s again...no instant internet, news, wireless international calls, real time satellite weather, phone calling China from Colorado...try that with ground systems, pal...had a great conversation with my niece...

I know what's real....you're just "uh-uh"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69336270


For a parabolic microwave dish antenna (DirecTv or DISH network), this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

A parabolic microwave dish antenna MUST be pointed at the source of transmission. Every DirecTV and DISH network antenna in the USA is pointing into the sky.

Here's the link for DISH network pointing guide.
[link to www.mydish.com (secure)]

BTW, DirecTV uses the EchoStar 10 satellite.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


Just because you dumbass Americans call them satellite dishes doesn't mean that they receive signals from satellites.
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so, then, what has NASA been doing with all the billions
of dollars they're supposed to have been using hotrodding
around the solar system?
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You're a fucking retard.
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Wow, brilliant response to hard know facts. Where did you hear that? The trailer park boys?
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Chemical rocket thrust does not work in the vacuum of space.
Near the Earth, rocket thrust pushes against the atmosphere around the rocket.
In space, rocket thrust pushes against NOTHING.

If Chemical rockets can push against nothing, you should
be able to fly if you pull hard enough on your shoe laces.

No computer or maybe ALL the computers in the world
working together can not resolve a 3 body space problem.

All bodies in the conventionally accepted space model are claimed to be
moving through the universe between 800,000 mph to 2.2 million mph.
No body knows the exact speeds so nobody can calculate the movement
of a third body to go from on moving mass to another moving mass.

I do not KNOW the nature of those lights in the sky.
People through mass indoctrination ASSUME that the lights are
satellites created and launched by man.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


Rocket engines don't work the way you suppose. Your whole chain of "reasoning" is false.
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Please elaborate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76708078


The thrust from the rocket engine does not push against the empty space behind it. Thrust is achieved by the gases expanding against the inside of the engine and propelling the craft forward.

I’ve been into model rocketry for decades and this is a well known principle that was once taught in high school physics classes.

For every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction.
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None of those things work by satellite, those signals are transmitted by towers or cables.
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:lolwut:


You're a moron, I've WORKED in the industry and I've been to the LANSAT location. They DO transmit via satellite and TRANSMIT locally over hardline.
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How do GPS receivers work far out over the oceans?
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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?

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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?


 Quoting: Zetetic Ben


Possibly london forces according to e theory.

Imagine how dramatic that collapse is at the bottom of the ocean in a submarine.

Last Edited by mechaniac on 03/05/2019 12:17 AM
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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?


 Quoting: Zetetic Ben


Gravity does explain it which is why the higher the altitude the thinner the atmosphere. If it was a dome and no gravity, the atmosphere would be uniform density.

Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 03/05/2019 12:18 AM
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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?


 Quoting: Zetetic Ben


OMG, gravity is what holds it down.

Are you serious about your inability to comprehend concepts that a child can understand?
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Has agenda 21 already turned this young generation into a bunch of dimwits?

How come nobody can understand basic simple concepts anymore?
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Bro I can't even take the time to destroy this

All that needs to be said is a super hot gas coming out is still a gas, not a liquid. Bernoulli equations do not apply. And a force is still applied in the vacuum analogy, but your body's resistance to the moment of inertia makes it negligible.

That equation they use is originally derived from nazi rocket engineers, you're telling me they couldn't fire rockets? Lolol the amount of ridiculousness using that as the hill to die on is amazing. So much other shit that proves their full of it, why pick something that isn't true?
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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?


 Quoting: Zetetic Ben


OMG, gravity is what holds it down.

Are you serious about your inability to comprehend concepts that a child can understand?
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


Just because you believe everything you were told in your government indoctrination schools does not mean you are smart old man. I say it means you are the idiot.
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Forget the rocket, how does the earth's atmosphere stay attached to the surface with no barrier between it and a near perfect vacuum? Gravity does not explain this. What is the barrier, and how do your magic rockets get through it?


 Quoting: Zetetic Ben


Gravity does explain it which is why the higher the altitude the thinner the atmosphere. If it was a dome and no gravity, the atmosphere would be uniform density.
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


That would be explained by density and buoyancy inside a fishbowl. Gravity is still just a theory. Not even your god Neil Degrasse Tyson can explain what it is.