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NASA Thrust Equation gets destroyed.

 
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Even this source says that it pushes off the atmosphere. Does physics teach fluid dynamics? Why is it all the chemists that realize rockets don’t work in space?


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“According to Newton's Third Law of Motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore, as the gas is released from the balloon, it pushes against the outside air, and the outside air pushes back. As a result, the rocket is propelled forward by the opposing force.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77120569


That explanation is not correct for balloons. Balloons are not rockets.

The body of the balloon changes shape; it becomes smaller as the gas escapes. The outside air pushes around the body of the balloon and makes it move forward, like squeezing a wet bar of soap in your hand propels the soap.

The body of a rocket does not behave like a balloon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77375224


That’s not what nasa and mainstream science says

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See where this is going? You people have contradicted yourselves while going nuts tying to prove that rockets work in space. You just can’t do it because it’s a lie
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The action of the exhaust leaving the rocket nozzle produces an opposite reaction of the rocket traveling in the opposite direction. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand basic physics but Rockets do work in space and they have been filmed working in Space by amateurs including myself.
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men on the moon cars in space zero thrust rockets, ha
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Even this source says that it pushes off the atmosphere. Does physics teach fluid dynamics? Why is it all the chemists that realize rockets don’t work in space?


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“According to Newton's Third Law of Motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore, as the gas is released from the balloon, it pushes against the outside air, and the outside air pushes back. As a result, the rocket is propelled forward by the opposing force.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77120569


That explanation is not correct for balloons. Balloons are not rockets.

The body of the balloon changes shape; it becomes smaller as the gas escapes. The outside air pushes around the body of the balloon and makes it move forward, like squeezing a wet bar of soap in your hand propels the soap.

The body of a rocket does not behave like a balloon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77375224


That’s not what nasa and mainstream science says

[link to www.homesciencetools.com (secure)]


See where this is going? You people have contradicted yourselves while going nuts tying to prove that rockets work in space. You just can’t do it because it’s a lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76808568


The action of the exhaust leaving the rocket nozzle produces an opposite reaction of the rocket traveling in the opposite direction. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand basic physics but Rockets do work in space and they have been filmed working in Space by amateurs including myself.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Where’s the proof Astro? You keep saying you have it but you fail to provide. Edited vids from nasa isn’t proof.
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I don't want to spend the effort to disprove a failed disproving. The burden is yours and it was not achieved. You basically gave up after flipping equations and describing a vague unrelated experiment.
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So your too lazy to disprove the evidence provided so we should just take your word for it? Right
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You've already demonstrated that there is *no proof* you will accept. So, what's the point? You handwave away every evidence.

If I am incorrect, please spell out *completely* what specific evidence would prove *to you* that rockets work in space. If there is none, it is pointless to engage.
 Quoting: 74444


But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003244


See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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That explanation is not correct for balloons. Balloons are not rockets.

The body of the balloon changes shape; it becomes smaller as the gas escapes. The outside air pushes around the body of the balloon and makes it move forward, like squeezing a wet bar of soap in your hand propels the soap.

The body of a rocket does not behave like a balloon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77375224


That’s not what nasa and mainstream science says

[link to www.homesciencetools.com (secure)]


See where this is going? You people have contradicted yourselves while going nuts tying to prove that rockets work in space. You just can’t do it because it’s a lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76808568


The action of the exhaust leaving the rocket nozzle produces an opposite reaction of the rocket traveling in the opposite direction. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand basic physics but Rockets do work in space and they have been filmed working in Space by amateurs including myself.
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Where’s the proof Astro? You keep saying you have it but you fail to provide. Edited vids from nasa isn’t proof.
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*What proof do you find acceptable?* Be specific.
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Even this source says that it pushes off the atmosphere. Does physics teach fluid dynamics? Why is it all the chemists that realize rockets don’t work in space?


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“According to Newton's Third Law of Motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore, as the gas is released from the balloon, it pushes against the outside air, and the outside air pushes back. As a result, the rocket is propelled forward by the opposing force.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77120569


That explanation is not correct for balloons. Balloons are not rockets.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77375224


rockets and balloons both use a type of propulsion
called "Jet Propulsion"

simple.
walla.
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Proof, to me, of rockets working in a vacuum, would be a small, bottle-rocket, suspended on wires in the middle of that YUGE NASA vacuum chamber facility.

Not some little bell-jar.

Before the expelled gases can form an "atmosphere."

Know what I am saying?

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The nasa equation includes an assumption that op is not acounting for. The exit velocity came from a relative velocity of zero to exit velocity. That is acceleration, not constant velocity. The acceleration of the fuel is the force. Doesnt matter if its in water, air, or nothing. The op is not keeping track of time units in his assumptions.

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Proof, to me, of rockets working in a vacuum, would be a small, bottle-rocket, suspended on wires in the middle of that YUGE NASA vacuum chamber facility.

Not some little bell-jar.

Before the expelled gases can form an "atmosphere."

Know what I am saying?


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But, by your own words, you would be using the giant NASA vacuum chamber. Doesn't the fact that it belongs to NASA invalidate the experiment to you?
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Proof, to me, of rockets working in a vacuum, would be a small, bottle-rocket, suspended on wires in the middle of that YUGE NASA vacuum chamber facility.

Not some little bell-jar.

Before the expelled gases can form an "atmosphere."

Know what I am saying?


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But, by your own words, you would be using the giant NASA vacuum chamber. Doesn't the fact that it belongs to NASA invalidate the experiment to you?
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an expelling balloon would fly very nicely.
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Proof, to me, of rockets working in a vacuum, would be a small, bottle-rocket, suspended on wires in the middle of that YUGE NASA vacuum chamber facility.

Not some little bell-jar.

Before the expelled gases can form an "atmosphere."

Know what I am saying?


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But, by your own words, you would be using the giant NASA vacuum chamber. Doesn't the fact that it belongs to NASA invalidate the experiment to you?
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an expelling balloon would fly very nicely.
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I expect it would (though a tougher balloon might be necessary in a vacuum). But I am trying to gauge what experiments the believer would find acceptable, and trying to nip potential "outs" before an experiment is even designed. Already, the bar has been set quite high that it would have to be the largest vacuum chamber in the world, because all other vacuums are, apparently, too small. That's a tall order.
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Materials:

Gas lines and connections
Air compressor or CO2 gas cylinders
Accelerometer to measure acceleration and speed of the miniature car
Pressure Regulators and Gauges
Air pressure powered miniature car with pressure regulator
Vacuum Chamber
Vacuum Pump (to achieve at least 1 Torr vacuum)

The miniature car will be powered by regulated gas and the acceleration of the car will be measured. The thrust produced by the car will be measured by it's acceleration in three different conditions, vacuum, atmospheric pressure and high pressure.

Hypothesis: Thrust will have a positive linear relationship with the pressure of the chamber. No thrust or acceleration in vacuum conditions and maximum thrust or acceleration under high pressure conditions.

Found this on Twitter of some guy asking for money.
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Proof, to me, of rockets working in a vacuum, would be a small, bottle-rocket, suspended on wires in the middle of that YUGE NASA vacuum chamber facility.

Not some little bell-jar.

Before the expelled gases can form an "atmosphere."

Know what I am saying?


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But, by your own words, you would be using the giant NASA vacuum chamber. Doesn't the fact that it belongs to NASA invalidate the experiment to you?
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an expelling balloon would fly very nicely.
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I expect it would (though a tougher balloon might be necessary in a vacuum). But I am trying to gauge what experiments the believer would find acceptable, and trying to nip potential "outs" before an experiment is even designed. Already, the bar has been set quite high that it would have to be the largest vacuum chamber in the world, because all other vacuums are, apparently, too small. That's a tall order.
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well, maybe if they open the gate-door quick :)
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Materials:

Gas lines and connections
Air compressor or CO2 gas cylinders
Accelerometer to measure acceleration and speed of the miniature car
Pressure Regulators and Gauges
Air pressure powered miniature car with pressure regulator
Vacuum Chamber
Vacuum Pump (to achieve at least 1 Torr vacuum)

The miniature car will be powered by regulated gas and the acceleration of the car will be measured. The thrust produced by the car will be measured by it's acceleration in three different conditions, vacuum, atmospheric pressure and high pressure.

Hypothesis: Thrust will have a positive linear relationship with the pressure of the chamber. No thrust or acceleration in vacuum conditions and maximum thrust or acceleration under high pressure conditions.

Found this on Twitter of some guy asking for money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77428394


I was thinking a WHOOSH rocket in the giant vacuum chamber.

[link to www.grc.nasa.gov (secure)]

No accusations of secret motors moving car forward, etc. You also wouldn't have to worry about it smashing into the walls of the chamber.
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So your too lazy to disprove the evidence provided so we should just take your word for it? Right
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You've already demonstrated that there is *no proof* you will accept. So, what's the point? You handwave away every evidence.

If I am incorrect, please spell out *completely* what specific evidence would prove *to you* that rockets work in space. If there is none, it is pointless to engage.
 Quoting: 74444


But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003244


See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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holy fuck you have some STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS HERE, you literally see this loser dying in his first few posts because no one was replying and in come the idiots, we were THIS CLOSE to this dickhead getting the message.......
 Quoting: InterStellar_Hoodrat


It is so depressing knowing that such dumb motherfuckers still walk the earth in this age.

The propellant of a rocket is basically millions of tons of MASS that is thrown out the back of the rocket at a very high velocity.

Newton: For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction.

.........


OP let me guess.


Your level of education is non existent, right?

Fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77425987


Let me really bake that little noodle that passes as a brain.

Do you even know that the density of the gas that a rocket produces is even lower than the air around it?....

LOL, I guess your mind fucked now in a low IQ mire.

It is all about velocity and mass.
.........


Mass being ejected out the back of the rocket at a massive velocity that overcomes the mass of the rocket itself.

Like the recoil of a gun, only with rockets the recoil is sustained.
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ohyeah
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bump

No even cares
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too dumbed down and mind controlled to "care"...#apathy
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You've already demonstrated that there is *no proof* you will accept. So, what's the point? You handwave away every evidence.

If I am incorrect, please spell out *completely* what specific evidence would prove *to you* that rockets work in space. If there is none, it is pointless to engage.
 Quoting: 74444


But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003244


See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
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But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
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Something that shows an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force.
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Dc-hatersHA

Oh wait. They haven't. What's going on? Maybe shills don't work on Sundays.
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bumpfist-3
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They’ll keep the charade up with fake videos and pictures and people will think it’s real.
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But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
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so, then, they shot-off all of those Saturn-5 Rockets
for what purpose, again?
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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
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so, then, they shot-off all of those Saturn-5 Rockets
for what purpose, again?
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover

To fool people and take their money through taxes.

Why don’t you have any evidence?
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You've already demonstrated that there is *no proof* you will accept. So, what's the point? You handwave away every evidence.

If I am incorrect, please spell out *completely* what specific evidence would prove *to you* that rockets work in space. If there is none, it is pointless to engage.
 Quoting: 74444


But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003244


See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72591242


Bullshit in both accusations. The Falcon Heavy boosters reached 100 km altitude, they had no problem reversing course using their rocket engines in a vacuum better than a laboratory vacuum chamber. The other video is not a video game, it's real footage too.

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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
 Quoting: 74444


Something that shows an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76901628


Like *WHAT?* Spell out every step of an experiment you would accept. *WHAT* would show an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force *TO YOU?*
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
 Quoting: 74444


Something that shows an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76901628


Like *WHAT?* Spell out every step of an experiment you would accept. *WHAT* would show an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force *TO YOU?*
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so, then, God made all this high technology and nintendo and
Xbox, and stuff, and then pasted a paper Moon on the Dome?
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
 Quoting: 74444


Something that shows an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76901628


Like *WHAT?* Spell out every step of an experiment you would accept. *WHAT* would show an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force *TO YOU?*
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That is up you to discover ain’t it mate?
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But what proof have you provided? Fake edited and cut videos. So far you have neither Been able to debunk the video nor provide actual evidence of rockets in space.
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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72591242


Bullshit in both accusations. The Falcon Heavy boosters reached 100 km altitude, they had no problem reversing course using their rocket engines in a vacuum better than a laboratory vacuum chamber. The other video is not a video game, it's real footage too.

[link to russianspaceweb.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

What bollocks.
The thing didn’t even go to
Space
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*WHAT* simple experiment would the believer consider *acceptable proof?*
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Something that shows an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76901628


Like *WHAT?* Spell out every step of an experiment you would accept. *WHAT* would show an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force *TO YOU?*
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That is up you to discover ain’t it mate?
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That's not the way science works. I am asking a pretty straightforward question. After all, if there is *no evidence* that will change one's mind at all; if there is quite literally nothing that can do it, the conversation is kind of at an end, isn't it?

So, I ask again: Spell out every step of an experiment you would accept. *WHAT* would show an equal and opposite force from gas movement due due to pressure gradient force *TO YOU?* If you can't answer this straightforward question rationally, just admit it.
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See? You avoid my challenge altogether. When Astro provided motion captures of a satellite firing a thruster in space taken by a telescope, you call it fake (with no evidence to, of course, back that up). When you can see the ISS in orbit with your naked eye, and Space X docking with it, you yell fake again. You won't even go to sites identifying satellites you can see from your very spot on Earth and *look up.* There is *no evidence* you'll accept. None. If you want to prove me wrong, spell out exactly what evidence you WOULD accept. And imagine my shock when you don't.
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one video was a screenshot of him plying Starcraft. The second video the rocket didn’t leave earth

How about a simple experiment?
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Bullshit in both accusations. The Falcon Heavy boosters reached 100 km altitude, they had no problem reversing course using their rocket engines in a vacuum better than a laboratory vacuum chamber. The other video is not a video game, it's real footage too.

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 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

What bollocks.
The thing didn’t even go to
Space
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That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The evidence shows that the thing went to space, it was witnessed by thousands of people, and Astro filmed it, firsthand, uncut from takeoff to landing. If that isn't acceptable evidence to you, pray, what is?

By comparison, you offer *nothing* in the way of evidence that the Falcon Heavy 'didn't even go to space.' See how that works?