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Obama emergencies never tried to steal billions of dollars meant for one thing and use it for a completely different thing.


April 12, 2010: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia was in respect to threats posed by Somali pirates.

February 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya froze the assets of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).

May 16, 2012: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen addressed political unrest within the Yemen government.

March 16, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine was in response to the Russian invasion of Crimea.

April 3, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan was in response to the ongoing civil war.

May 12, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic was in response to violence towards humanitarian aid workers.

March 8, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela was in response to human rights violations.

April 1, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities was in response to Chinese cyber attacks on the U.S.

Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.
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Bullshit, He took Money from Freddie Mae and Fanny Mack

To pay for Obamacare, He took Money from the Pentagon

ammunition orders to pay for ObamaCare

Trey Gowdy testified to it under oath in front of congress

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That is the COMPLETE list of ALL of Obama's Emergency Declarations.
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I don't care he moved money around illegally with out congress.
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On most, the Republican dominated congress supported him and on some, there were votes that went Obama's way.
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They are all guilty of treason. We will BUILDTHEWALL
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You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
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You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure”. ~ Thomas Jefferson
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Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul and Lindsey graham have to go.
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I disagree with you on Rand, but the other 2...Yep...

There are a whole lot of other congress-critters who need to be removed before Rand.

Rand knows that President Trump will veto and the Senate cannot muster 60+ to overturn...

Rand has been consistent with his pro-constitutional positions. For me, that earns him a pass on this one

Though I agree the Dems won't care in 4, 8 or 12 years (hopefully never)
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If the Democrats ever regain the presidency there won't be a Republican left in the country in 4 years.

Take that to the bank.
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Goofy Thum
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Trump CAN still deploy as many US military personnel to the border as he likes.
He could stand them shoulder to shoulder 24/7 for the rest of his presidency.
He could call it training.
NOTHING congress could do about that except complain.
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Now you can understand how Trump was a coward and traitor himself when the only option on the table was to shut the government down and starve the beast, but, no, he pussed out. The left is beating him up so badly.
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how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations?

The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress.

The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants.

Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc.


You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity.
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For example, in 2012, Obama declared a national emergency entitled, "Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen" in order to freeze the assets of anyone perceived to be negatively impacting a political transition in Yemen, VOA reported.

In 2014, the 44th president issued a national emergency referred to as "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine," which similarly locked the assets of those thought to be undermining democratic processes in Ukraine.

These are just two of many internationally oriented states of emergency that Obama declared while in office.
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Trump has full legal authority to declare a national emergency
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And limited legal means to fund it without congressional approval.
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we have already proven that false
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how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations?

The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress.

The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants.

Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc.


You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity.
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Now you can understand how Trump was a coward and traitor himself when the only option on the table was to shut the government down and starve the beast, but, no, he pussed out. The left is beating him up so badly.
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The Trump admin is beating itself.
Wasted 2 years when it could have done ANYTHING, just to give the rich and big corporations massive permanent tax cuts.
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They are all guilty of treason. We will BUILDTHEWALL
 Quoting: Mahomes15 77348709


You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
 Quoting: Jake


You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
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yeah I get that but now is not the time to prove that

The USA is being overthrown.

These fucking Infiltrators Like Ortez are all coming from south America

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They are all guilty of treason. We will BUILDTHEWALL
 Quoting: Mahomes15 77348709


You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
 Quoting: Jake


You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
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Some here dont give a fuck and thats why we are in the shape we are in.
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how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations?

The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress.

The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants.

Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc.


You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity.
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that posts old tired memes for lack of anything more valuable to add.
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You trumptards are pathetic liberals. You know who wants presidential power extended? Libtards. If you aren't advocating for decreasing the government, you are a libtard, even if Trump is president. A wall isn't going to do shit.

The only way to solve the border issue is to eliminate ALL welfare programs and legalize drugs.

However too many of you white pieces of trash are on the Dole for you hypocrites to advocate that.
FIX THE BORDER - END ALL WELFARE PROGRAMS. LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS. RON PAUL 2020
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You're an interesting mix of libertarian and libtardism.

Lots of conventional slimy leftist bias in your describing your opponents as "white....trash." Similar to ultra-liberal Obama describing people of the political right as bitterly clinging to their guns and Bibles.

Your also dismissing the necessity of a wall reminds me of all the Limousine Liberals who, while sitting in their comfy walled-off, high-security mansions, say a border wall isn't necessary for the security of America. That all the proles and peons of the US, when it comes to ruthless "undocumented" criminals affecting their little houses and slobs from south of the border affecting their wages and neighborhoods, should just shut up, and grin and bear it.



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genius - IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE POWER OF THE GOVERNMENT - YOU!!! - YOU, NOT ME, ARE THE FUCKING LIBTARD.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DISMANTLED. FUCK TRUMP, FUCK OBAMA, THEY ARE LIBTARDS. TAXES ARE THEFT, LEGALIZE DRUGS AND END WELFARE SO THIS DUMBASS HAS TO GET A JOB
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if republicans fuck this up, its over for them in 2020
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Trump has full legal authority to declare a national emergency
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And limited legal means to fund it without congressional approval.
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Military discretionary funds. I'm sure some of their funds have to remain fluid- and this is national security-under borders, ports, etc. - even more so than day to day actions in Syria.
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You trumptards are pathetic liberals. You know who wants presidential power extended? Libtards. If you aren't advocating for decreasing the government, you are a libtard, even if Trump is president. A wall isn't going to do shit.

The only way to solve the border issue is to eliminate ALL welfare programs and legalize drugs.

However too many of you white pieces of trash are on the Dole for you hypocrites to advocate that.
FIX THE BORDER - END ALL WELFARE PROGRAMS. LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS. RON PAUL 2020
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72297677


You're an interesting mix of libertarian and libtardism.

Lots of conventional slimy leftist bias in your describing your opponents as "white....trash." Similar to ultra-liberal Obama describing people of the political right as bitterly clinging to their guns and Bibles.

Your also dismissing the necessity of a wall reminds me of all the Limousine Liberals who, while sitting in their comfy walled-off, high-security mansions, say a border wall isn't necessary for the security of America. That all the proles and peons of the US, when it comes to ruthless "undocumented" criminals affecting their little houses and slobs from south of the border affecting their wages and neighborhoods, should just shut up, and grin and bear it.



.
 Quoting: CSnow


genius - IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE POWER OF THE GOVERNMENT - YOU!!! - YOU, NOT ME, ARE THE FUCKING LIBTARD.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DISMANTLED. FUCK TRUMP, FUCK OBAMA, THEY ARE LIBTARDS. TAXES ARE THEFT, LEGALIZE DRUGS AND END WELFARE SO THIS DUMBASS HAS TO GET A JOB
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I get your point ac but our only other choice is civil

war, and I'm starting to think it will come down to that.
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how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations?

The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress.

The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants.

Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc.


You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity.
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hesright And I am a strong supporter of the wall.
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They are all guilty of treason. We will BUILDTHEWALL
 Quoting: Mahomes15 77348709


You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
 Quoting: Jake


You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
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The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements.
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You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
 Quoting: Jake


You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements.
 Quoting: Far Away


Its going to come down to 1 of two things.

We allow Marxists to take over our nation or

we do what George Washington demanded

Throw off a corrupt government


2ndamend
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how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations?

The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress.

The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants.

Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc.


You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity.
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hesright And I am a strong supporter of the wall.
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The President declaring a National Emergency

Is only at the discretion of the POTUS. NOT CONGRESS.

Congress can only tell him how to pay for it.

and there are other legal means he can use to pay for it.
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They are all guilty of treason. We will BUILDTHEWALL
 Quoting: Mahomes15 77348709


You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


But they all have distinct powers as well. The President doesn't have to confer with Congress or the Judicial system about commander in chief-military-national security measures.
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Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear

that he does not need congress.
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Well, I just think of a national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me.
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yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq?

without congressional approval
 Quoting: Jake


You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements.
 Quoting: Far Away


Its going to come down to 1 of two things.

We allow Marxists to take over our nation or

we do what George Washington demanded

Throw off a corrupt government


:2ndamend:
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Yeah, that's it.
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You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other.
 Quoting: Random NiNe


But they all have distinct powers as well. The President doesn't have to confer with Congress or the Judicial system about commander in chief-military-national security measures.
 Quoting: Far Away


Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear

that he does not need congress.
 Quoting: Jake


Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me.
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Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency.

Its written right in the law itself.
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Don't be afraid of jews dude, christians outnumber them 800 to 1 and all those illegals are all christians

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I have been reading this thread with a sadness. Schools definitely need to teach civics, and many of you are so pro-government you'd stick people in FEMA camps. A distrust of ALL government, including Trump, is necessary.
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if republicans fuck this up, its over for them in 2020
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if republicans fuck this up, its over for them in 2020
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You know how I know you're gay?
You have a cat as an avatar.
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its a picture of my wife's cat
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