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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76460002 United States 03/03/2019 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Random NiNe You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other. yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq? without congressional approval You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow. The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements. Jefferson sent troops 1/3 the way around the planet to fight islamic pirates in 1801, didn't he? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 03/03/2019 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Far Away But they all have distinct powers as well. The President doesn't have to confer with Congress or the Judicial system about commander in chief-military-national security measures. Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear that he does not need congress. Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. Well, just let them bluster and ignore them. I don't mean ignore in all situations- like a dictator- but this is not their business. It is military and national security. I think it should have been treated that way from the beginning and they should not have been asked for specific money for it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76460002 United States 03/03/2019 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been reading this thread with a sadness. Schools definitely need to teach civics, and many of you are so pro-government you'd stick people in FEMA camps. A distrust of ALL government, including Trump, is necessary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77412563 some people are cool with tyrants, as long its their own favorite tyrant. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq? without congressional approval You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow. The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements. Jefferson sent troops 1/3 the way around the planet to fight islamic pirates in 1801, didn't he? Actually no he went to get our captured ships and people back. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 03/03/2019 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq? without congressional approval You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow. The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements. Jefferson sent troops 1/3 the way around the planet to fight islamic pirates in 1801, didn't he? Well, they had been kidnapping the crews of American military and merchant vessels for ransom, so it did involve our people. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear that he does not need congress. Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. Well, just let them bluster and ignore them. I don't mean ignore in all situations- like a dictator- but this is not their business. It is military and national security. I think it should have been treated that way from the beginning and they should not have been asked for specific money for it. I think the leadership of the Republican party are all democrats that have infiltrated the party. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 03/03/2019 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Far Away Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. Well, just let them bluster and ignore them. I don't mean ignore in all situations- like a dictator- but this is not their business. It is military and national security. I think it should have been treated that way from the beginning and they should not have been asked for specific money for it. I think the leadership of the Republican party are all democrats that have infiltrated the party. They have infiltrated EVERYTHING. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76460002 United States 03/03/2019 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Far Away But they all have distinct powers as well. The President doesn't have to confer with Congress or the Judicial system about commander in chief-military-national security measures. Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear that he does not need congress. Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. But to FUND activities related to the emergency, he needs congress to be broadly behind him or congress can challenge him, which is what is happening now. Isn't the constitution and the separation of powers great? |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mitch McConnell keeps setting Trump up over and over again and Trump keeps falling for it. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake Nor does he on National Emergencies, the act is very clear that he does not need congress. Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. But to FUND activities related to the emergency, he needs congress to be broadly behind him or congress can challenge him, which is what is happening now. Isn't the constitution and the separation of powers great? Yes and I agree, but there are discretionary funds the POTUS can use where he doesn't need congressional Approval. And it's 100% legal and doesn't circumvent the constitution. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 03/03/2019 08:00 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53054793 United States 03/03/2019 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants. Quoting: Mental Case --------- Then where did obama get 1.7 billion in cash to give to iranian terrorists? It sure as fuck wasn't "appropriated by congress"! I like Rand but he's wrong on this. I don't believe Congress playing politics with national security is what the founders had in mind when they gave them the power of the purse. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants. Quoting: Mental Case --------- Then where did obama get 1.7 billion in cash to give to iranian terrorists? It sure as fuck wasn't "appropriated by congress"! I like Rand but he's wrong on this. I don't believe Congress playing politics with national security is what the founders had in mind when they gave them the power of the purse. the founding fathers would arrest rand paul as a traitor Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74678399 United States 03/03/2019 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Far Away Well, I just think of an national emergency as something like shutting down the border, but obviously it has been used for really off the wall stuff by other Presidents. President Trump should ignore them all on this issue- it is his domain anyway. I just think it was his issue to deal with as he saw fit without congress and without a national emergency. Seems simple and absolute to me. Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. But to FUND activities related to the emergency, he needs congress to be broadly behind him or congress can challenge him, which is what is happening now. Isn't the constitution and the separation of powers great? Yes and I agree, but there are discretionary funds the POTUS can use where he doesn't need congressional Approval. And it's 100% legal and doesn't circumvent the constitution. Whatever fag. You are persuading 0 people. You are gay(and that's ok) And may God have mercy on your soul. Fag. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66500527 United States 03/03/2019 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77030671 The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress. The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants. Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power. The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc. You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity. Obama did it many times. Many more than Trump. But you are right. It is the federal government's responsibility to defend the US borders. It's not unconstitutional. That is a President's job. Defend our country. Just because we have a bunch of traitors that are representing non citizens, doesn't mean Trump can't defend our fucking country. |
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mikerock User ID: 2314202 United States 03/03/2019 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how would you have felt if Obama signed an executive order to spend money to build 10,000 new planned parenthood locations? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77030671 The fact is that the Constitution says all government spending must be appropriated by Congress. The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants. Allowing a President to do this just because you agree with what he wants to spend the money on is a terrible precedent and an unconstitutional expansion of executive power. The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc. You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity. If there was ever a more appropriate time to us this old meme this was it. Good job I LMAO as that is exactly what I thought when I read that cucktard reply that ignored the emergency - invasion aspect. btw - F Rand Paul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66500527 United States 03/03/2019 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake Trump does not need Congress to declare a national emergency. Its written right in the law itself. But to FUND activities related to the emergency, he needs congress to be broadly behind him or congress can challenge him, which is what is happening now. Isn't the constitution and the separation of powers great? Yes and I agree, but there are discretionary funds the POTUS can use where he doesn't need congressional Approval. And it's 100% legal and doesn't circumvent the constitution. Whatever fag. You are persuading 0 people. You are gay(and that's ok) And may God have mercy on your soul. Fag. Piss off troll. Maybe if you'd get your mother's dick out of your mouth, people would take you more seriously. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A clue about what? Going against the constitution? Conservatives crap on the constitution just as much as libs. You guys ain't no better! you dont even know what is in the constitution The POTUS does not need congressional Approval to declare a national emergency.. It is specifically written that way in the National Emergency Act. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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The Deplorable AnthraX User ID: 73674981 United States 03/03/2019 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77030671 You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity. Trump mentioned this at the CPAC conference. He said he has heard forewarnings from Republicans that if he declares a NE for the border, liberal/Democrat presidents in the future will evoke the NE for their own issues. He said they'll do it anyway. He's correct. Miss-Manners etiquette and Marquis of Queensbury Rules no longer exist in a post-Obama "Goddamn America" nation. If conservatives play goody-two-shoes about nuances of the US Constitution in 2019, they'll be easier mincemeat for the left in the future. 100 PERCENT CORRECT GROW A PAIR AND REALIZE THEY ARE GONNA DO THIS KINDA SHIT ANYWAYS . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66500527 United States 03/03/2019 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A clue about what? Going against the constitution? Conservatives crap on the constitution just as much as libs. You guys ain't no better! There are millions of fucking non citizens in our fucking country. We have been invaded and they have representation in our government. We are in a crisis state and you are a fucking pussy. We need to secure the fucking border. Just because a bunch of traitorous assholes like illegals more than citizens, doesn't mean we can't protect this country. If you do not do anything about these assholes, America is fucked. Along with the Constitution. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 03/03/2019 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The expansion of the President's power is what caused all of our problems such as endless war, Obamacare, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77030671 You want to give the president more power? wait until a fucking libtard gets in office. then you will see your own stupidity. Trump mentioned this at the CPAC conference. He said he has heard forewarnings from Republicans that if he declares a NE for the border, liberal/Democrat presidents in the future will evoke the NE for their own issues. He said they'll do it anyway. He's correct. Miss-Manners etiquette and Marquis of Queensbury Rules no longer exist in a post-Obama "Goddamn America" nation. If conservatives play goody-two-shoes about nuances of the US Constitution in 2019, they'll be easier mincemeat for the left in the future. 100 PERCENT CORRECT GROW A PAIR AND REALIZE THEY ARE GONNA DO THIS KINDA SHIT ANYWAYS . That is right, dems are gonna do it anyways Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76460002 United States 03/03/2019 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump CAN still deploy as many US military personnel to the border as he likes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002 He could stand them shoulder to shoulder 24/7 for the rest of his presidency. He could call it training. NOTHING congress could do about that except complain. repeat. IF THERE IS A REAL emergency, why hasn't he deployed enough military to the border to do the job until the wall is built? He could order all Ft. Sill and Ft Hood and Ft Polk soldiers to the border. They could call it training. |
Random NiNe User ID: 46776824 United States 03/03/2019 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The President does not have the power to sign an executive order in order to spend money on whatever he wants. Quoting: Mental Case --------- Then where did obama get 1.7 billion in cash to give to iranian terrorists? It sure as fuck wasn't "appropriated by congress"! I like Rand but he's wrong on this. I don't believe Congress playing politics with national security is what the founders had in mind when they gave them the power of the purse. the founding fathers would arrest rand paul as a traitor You know nothing about our country’s founding our Founding Fathers and the Constitution. I would recommend you stop talking like you are so that you do not embarrass yourself any further. Last Edited by Random NiNe on 03/03/2019 08:11 PM “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure”. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72973289 United States 03/03/2019 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Random NiNe You know NOTHING about the Constitution. I want that wall as bad as anyone else but we have to be careful and not let any of the 3 branches have more power than any other. yeah like obama, overthrowing, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq? without congressional approval You DON’T subvert the Constitution because others have. You don’t. Rand is a STRICT Constitutionalist and knows it better than 99.9999% of the population. Emotion must be removed and intellect guided by our Founding Fathers has to be the map we follow. The Founding Fathers wanted whatever it took to protect our own borders, and they didn't want foreign entanglements. We're pretty dang entangled with a lot of countries. Trump might mention he wants to end some of it, but it never happens, because he's not calling the shots. And he seems more into the idea of an American Empire with a global reach than a constitutional republic. You can't have both. And you can't have a constitutional republic as long as we have a corporate government and its many criminal affiliates, e.g. the fed. The problems that many of these illegals face in their countries has a lot to do with the meddling and influence from within our gov (drug trade, trafficking, bankers, politicians' closet deals). You don't suppose it was a purposeful effort to destabilize these countries therefore sending waves of illegals here to bring us down? A wall will not fix any of that; our problems are far bigger. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76770412 United States 03/03/2019 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A clue about what? Going against the constitution? Conservatives crap on the constitution just as much as libs. You guys ain't no better! you dont even know what is in the constitution The POTUS does not need congressional Approval to declare a national emergency.. It is specifically written that way in the National Emergency Act. NOPE! The president should get congressional approval before he blows any of the taxpayers money (especially on pet projects). I thought the Mexicans waz gona pay 4 it? |