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WHY DOES U.S NEED VENEZUELA' OIL SO MUCH ??

 
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Spoiler alert: A big Texas refinery use only heavy oil which is found only in Venezuela and Canada (no pipeline so far).
Venezuela sell its "heavy oil" at extra price.



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 Quoting: TIO JUAN


Video: An Ocean of Lies on Venezuela
Abby Martin and UN Rapporteur Expose Coup

By Abby Martin and Alfred de Zayas
February 22, 2019
Empire Files

On the eve of another US war for oil, Abby Martin debunks the most repeated myths about Venezuela.

She uncovers how US sanctions are crimes against humanity with UN investigator and human rights Rapporteur Alfred De Zayas.


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Everyone has fallen for the lies about Venezuela (by Lee Camp)

Published time: 22 Feb, 2019 14:05

Socialism, ditching the dollar, and having natural resources are the three crimes that usually provoke the US into overthrowing a foreign government. And these are the reasons it’s backing the coup in Venezuela.
There are three things I know for sure in this fanciful, sometimes inglorious experience we call life:

You will never have a safety pin when you need one, and you will have thousands when you don’t need one.

Wild animals are breathtakingly majestic until they’re crawling up your pant leg.

A US presidential administration will never admit that it invaded another country or backed a coup attempt in order to essentially steal the natural resources (oil) of said country.

This is why it was so very shocking last week when members of the Trump administration admitted they were backing a coup attempt in order to essentially steal the natural resources (oil) of another country.

That country is Venezuela. I’ll get back to this in a moment.

Let’s take a second to go over the big three. There are three things that seem to provoke the ornery United States into overthrowing or bringing down a foreign government, no matter how many innocent civilians may die in the process. (If enough die, the perpetrators often get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.) If your country has one of these things, the US might screw with you. If your country has two of these things, the US will definitely screw with you. If your country has three of these things, then look behind you, because the US is currently screwing you:

1. Being socialist.

Pretty self-explanatory. If you don’t have the same economic system as we do, we treat it like you have candy and we’re not allowed to have any, so we slip razor blades in yours and tell everyone your candy kills people.

2. Dropping the US dollar.

Iraq dropped the dollar. We invaded.

Syria dropped the dollar. We invaded.

Iran dropped the dollar. We want to invade.

Libya planned to drop the dollar. We invaded.

Pakistan dropped the dollar in trade with China, and the US added them to the list of countries violating religious freedom. (I guess you could argue they did indeed violate our religion: The dollar.)

Basically, we do NOT take kindly to countries dropping the dollar.

In unrelated news, Venezuela dropped the dollar.

3. Having oil or other natural resources the US needs.

In case you were curious, Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the known world. (But we haven’t checked northern Wyoming yet, because it’s a long, cold drive with nary a 7-11.)

So these are the three ACTUAL reasons the US has created an attempted coup in Venezuela over the past several weeks. And right now, you are falling into one of two categories. Either you’re saying to yourself, “Of course those are the reasons. Those are the only reasons the US ever tries to bring down governments.” OR you still have some strange, deep-rooted faith in our Pepsi-and-pharmaceutical-owned media outlets, and therefore you’re thinking, “That’s not true. The US supports the opposition in Venezuela because we want to help those poor starving people.” But if that were accurate, we would be tripping over ourselves to help starving and sick people around the world. Instead we (oddly) only seek to help them when they have oil under their feet. And in fact, data has proven this true. A study a few years ago from the Universities of Portsmouth, Warwick and Essex found that foreign intervention in civil conflicts is 100 times more likely if the country has a great deal of oil, versus none.

So who is feeding the average American the idea that our involvement in Venezuela is about helping people? Only EVERY mainstream media channel in America—from MSNBC to Fox News to NPR to Bill f***in’ Maher. It’s truly mind-numbing to watch so-called “liberals” march in lockstep with the likes of John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Donald Trump and every neocon not currently in a coma.

These outlets froth at the mouth while presenting segments explaining that the Venezuelan people are starving, but they also purposefully avoid mentioning that a lot of Venezuela’s hardships are due to US sanctions. This isn’t to say Venezuela’s president, Nicolás Maduro, has done an awesome job. But whether he has or not, saying we must sanction them to help them is like if somebody fell through a plate glass window and you said, “Let’s help him! Let’s start cutting the glass shards out of his skin with this rusty flathead screwdriver I found in an abandoned mine! Then we’ll pour Mountain Dew and sewage water in the wounds to help them heal!”

But that’s what our sanctions are designed to do. They’re devised from day one to hurt poor and average people the most, in order to make them angry enough to rebel. Over a year ago, when Rex Tillerson was secretary of state, he publicly said we could tell our sanctions on North Korea were working great because poor fishermen were washing up on the beaches starved to death. (One is perplexed by how difficult it is at times to tell the difference between “helping other countries” and mass murder.)


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If we invade Venezuela , and the Chinese/Russians DONT stop it, then its concrete proof that all leaders are IN on the same scheme to bring about a one world government/currency... and If this happens, they will be dangerously close- I will take my kids and head for the mountains. I really hope they STOP them from invading but it appears to be a coordinated effort...
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We don't.. Venezuela however DOES.. its not be used right.
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never mind after Russia nukes US and China invades Venezuela will be ableto use it right

currently many countries are not allowed to use their gas or oil and kept slave trough the petrodollar

this will change as soon as you die.

let's pray that this cancer called US, along with UK and Israel gets eradicated.
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It's not just about wanting/needing the oil, its, about not wanting others to have it.
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Spoiler alert: A big Texas refinery use only heavy oil which is found only in Venezuela and Canada (no pipeline so far).
Venezuela sell its "heavy oil" at extra price.



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 Quoting: TIO JUAN


Video: An Ocean of Lies on Venezuela
Abby Martin and UN Rapporteur Expose Coup

By Abby Martin and Alfred de Zayas
February 22, 2019
Empire Files

On the eve of another US war for oil, Abby Martin debunks the most repeated myths about Venezuela.

She uncovers how US sanctions are crimes against humanity with UN investigator and human rights Rapporteur Alfred De Zayas.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Everyone has fallen for the lies about Venezuela (by Lee Camp)

Published time: 22 Feb, 2019 14:05

Socialism, ditching the dollar, and having natural resources are the three crimes that usually provoke the US into overthrowing a foreign government. And these are the reasons it’s backing the coup in Venezuela.
There are three things I know for sure in this fanciful, sometimes inglorious experience we call life:

You will never have a safety pin when you need one, and you will have thousands when you don’t need one.

Wild animals are breathtakingly majestic until they’re crawling up your pant leg.

A US presidential administration will never admit that it invaded another country or backed a coup attempt in order to essentially steal the natural resources (oil) of said country.

This is why it was so very shocking last week when members of the Trump administration admitted they were backing a coup attempt in order to essentially steal the natural resources (oil) of another country.

That country is Venezuela. I’ll get back to this in a moment.

Let’s take a second to go over the big three. There are three things that seem to provoke the ornery United States into overthrowing or bringing down a foreign government, no matter how many innocent civilians may die in the process. (If enough die, the perpetrators often get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.) If your country has one of these things, the US might screw with you. If your country has two of these things, the US will definitely screw with you. If your country has three of these things, then look behind you, because the US is currently screwing you:

1. Being socialist.

Pretty self-explanatory. If you don’t have the same economic system as we do, we treat it like you have candy and we’re not allowed to have any, so we slip razor blades in yours and tell everyone your candy kills people.

2. Dropping the US dollar.

Iraq dropped the dollar. We invaded.

Syria dropped the dollar. We invaded.

Iran dropped the dollar. We want to invade.

Libya planned to drop the dollar. We invaded.

Pakistan dropped the dollar in trade with China, and the US added them to the list of countries violating religious freedom. (I guess you could argue they did indeed violate our religion: The dollar.)

Basically, we do NOT take kindly to countries dropping the dollar.

In unrelated news, Venezuela dropped the dollar.

3. Having oil or other natural resources the US needs.

In case you were curious, Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the known world. (But we haven’t checked northern Wyoming yet, because it’s a long, cold drive with nary a 7-11.)

So these are the three ACTUAL reasons the US has created an attempted coup in Venezuela over the past several weeks. And right now, you are falling into one of two categories. Either you’re saying to yourself, “Of course those are the reasons. Those are the only reasons the US ever tries to bring down governments.” OR you still have some strange, deep-rooted faith in our Pepsi-and-pharmaceutical-owned media outlets, and therefore you’re thinking, “That’s not true. The US supports the opposition in Venezuela because we want to help those poor starving people.” But if that were accurate, we would be tripping over ourselves to help starving and sick people around the world. Instead we (oddly) only seek to help them when they have oil under their feet. And in fact, data has proven this true. A study a few years ago from the Universities of Portsmouth, Warwick and Essex found that foreign intervention in civil conflicts is 100 times more likely if the country has a great deal of oil, versus none.

So who is feeding the average American the idea that our involvement in Venezuela is about helping people? Only EVERY mainstream media channel in America—from MSNBC to Fox News to NPR to Bill f***in’ Maher. It’s truly mind-numbing to watch so-called “liberals” march in lockstep with the likes of John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Donald Trump and every neocon not currently in a coma.

These outlets froth at the mouth while presenting segments explaining that the Venezuelan people are starving, but they also purposefully avoid mentioning that a lot of Venezuela’s hardships are due to US sanctions. This isn’t to say Venezuela’s president, Nicolás Maduro, has done an awesome job. But whether he has or not, saying we must sanction them to help them is like if somebody fell through a plate glass window and you said, “Let’s help him! Let’s start cutting the glass shards out of his skin with this rusty flathead screwdriver I found in an abandoned mine! Then we’ll pour Mountain Dew and sewage water in the wounds to help them heal!”

But that’s what our sanctions are designed to do. They’re devised from day one to hurt poor and average people the most, in order to make them angry enough to rebel. Over a year ago, when Rex Tillerson was secretary of state, he publicly said we could tell our sanctions on North Korea were working great because poor fishermen were washing up on the beaches starved to death. (One is perplexed by how difficult it is at times to tell the difference between “helping other countries” and mass murder.)


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If we invade Venezuela , and the Chinese/Russians DONT stop it, then its concrete proof that all leaders are IN on the same scheme to bring about a one world government/currency... and If this happens, they will be dangerously close- I will take my kids and head for the mountains. I really hope they STOP them from invading but it appears to be a coordinated effort...
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don't worry. the U.S. will blow-up the whole Planet
before they let Russia-China defeat them.
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The US has been stealing Venezuelan oil for decades, using DUT (deep underground tunnel) systems bored through salt daipirs and domes, redirecting it back to US controlled lands, and storing it in vast reserves.

Often pre-refined using a myriad of bacterial helpers, some natural, some nano enhanced or at the least gene modified.

The DWH disaster was a cover for a collapse of one such DUT system, under the GoM, exposing all kinds of genetically modified micro creatures to open water and our biosphere.

The US do not want any other super powers sitting in the front seat of the bus, able to work out what is going on, especially now oil signatures can expose very quickly and easily where a particular oil sample came from in the first place, regardless of refinement state.

There would be no saving face from that.
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The US has been stealing Venezuelan oil for decades, using DUT (deep underground tunnel) systems bored through salt daipirs and domes, redirecting it back to US controlled lands, and storing it in vast reserves.

Often pre-refined using a myriad of bacterial helpers, some natural, some nano enhanced or at the least gene modified.

The DWH disaster was a cover for a collapse of one such DUT system, under the GoM, exposing all kinds of genetically modified micro creatures to open water and our biosphere.

The US do not want any other super powers sitting in the front seat of the bus, able to work out what is going on, especially now oil signatures can expose very quickly and easily where a particular oil sample came from in the first place, regardless of refinement state.

There would be no saving face from that.
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the U.S. secretly drills sideways, from Louisiana to Venezuela
to steal their oil?

holy cow.
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The US has been stealing Venezuelan oil for decades, using DUT (deep underground tunnel) systems bored through salt daipirs and domes, redirecting it back to US controlled lands, and storing it in vast reserves.

Often pre-refined using a myriad of bacterial helpers, some natural, some nano enhanced or at the least gene modified.

The DWH disaster was a cover for a collapse of one such DUT system, under the GoM, exposing all kinds of genetically modified micro creatures to open water and our biosphere.

The US do not want any other super powers sitting in the front seat of the bus, able to work out what is going on, especially now oil signatures can expose very quickly and easily where a particular oil sample came from in the first place, regardless of refinement state.

There would be no saving face from that.
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the U.S. secretly drills sideways, from Louisiana to Venezuela
to steal their oil?

holy cow.
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Not drilling, tunneling.
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Why are we still using oil?
Why aren't all our cars electric powered?
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Why are we still using oil?
Why aren't all our cars electric powered?
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because we'll have to build oil burning electrical
generating plants and nuclear plants to make the
electricity to run all of the Energy Saving automobiles.
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I could understand why a refinery might only use light clean oil. I don't understand why a refinery would only work with heavy dirty oil. Could you explain that?
 Quoting: TIO JUAN


By design, refineries are designed and built for one of the kind depending what oil is near, available, transportation costs, etc.
3 of 4 Mexico refineries were designed for heavy oil which is more commonly extracted around here.
According with video, Venezuela used to sell cheap heavy to Texas until Chavez saw the dependency and increased the price years ago.


Thanks, that's an educational upgrade...

That also says that President Trump inherited an ugly situation and may simply be trying to make the best of it.

Dumb question... Did any of the money from jacking the price of the low grade crude ever find its way into the hands of the Venezuelan people?
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Part of a better solution than electric vehicles involves the new generation of IC engines which are much more efficient and powerful than what is being sold now.


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The US is a petroleum exporter now.
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The US is a petroleum exporter now.
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selling, low grade watered-down fracking oil.
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Spoiler alert: A big Texas refinery use only heavy oil which is found only in Venezuela and Canada (no pipeline so far).
Venezuela sell its "heavy oil" at extra price.



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 Quoting: TIO JUAN


We dont need the oil it could help but we dont need it...

The problem is China is down there in our back yard in the richest country in South America....

This is a soft slow rolling conflict heading to a war with China...

We have Chinese coming over the U.S. border now also not just people of Hispanic backgrounds...

Its not simple as you think and Maduro is a evil pos too dont be fooled by the liberal b.s.
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I am sure you have a base or two (or 10, 20, 30 ...) in their back yard too.
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The ignorance of the American people including GLP is insurmountable. We are doomed to endless enslavement by the ruling class.
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clappa
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Spoiler alert: A big Texas refinery use only heavy oil which is found only in Venezuela and Canada (no pipeline so far).
Venezuela sell its "heavy oil" at extra price.



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 Quoting: TIO JUAN


This is another pre election post. The left is hitting it hard and it will get worse.

These people are paid to post propaganda, the people in Venezuela are starving and on a medium wage of $5 a month .

The left would like you to think every thing is a ok ! Fake news again !

Socialism has destroyed Venezuela and I pray the dark side is driven out of the country the left supporters from the dark side.

The support infantacide, what more can I say ? Sickening!
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Venezuela is not destroyed but socialism, it is destroyed by sanctions. Educate yourself! They can not get the money it is rightfully their, they can not get to the gold that is rightfully their.
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The ignorance of the American people including GLP is insurmountable. We are doomed to endless enslavement by the ruling class.
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clappa
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so, what else is new?
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Oil is Earth's lubricated for its engine of shifting continents. If all the oil is sucked up, the engine locks, and the global cataclysm halted.
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CRUDE OIL IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE

IT MAY SEEM HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT CRUDE OIL ACTUALLY IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE, AND IT IS BEING RENEWED RIGHT NOW QUITE NATURALLY.

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Oil is Earth's lubricated for its engine of shifting continents. If all the oil is sucked up, the engine locks, and the global cataclysm halted.
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Yes , oil is a Earth lubricant but oil scarcity is a myth , oil has mineral sources : rivers of high pressure hot water flowing underground between earth layers at high velocity creating gas, oil, carbon, etc.
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Why are we still using oil?
Why aren't all our cars electric powered?
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Where do you think most of the electricity is produced from?


How is electricity produced?

Most electricity in the world is produced by burning fossil fuels like coal, oil and natural gas.

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Why are we still using oil?
Why aren't all our cars electric powered?
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Where do you think most of the electricity is produced from?


How is electricity produced?

Most electricity in the world is produced by burning fossil fuels like coal, oil and natural gas.

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bert-facepalm


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and, right now we don't have way near enough electric generating plants
to power all these Electric Vehicles.
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We don't. It is poor quality and watery. But, we don't want another communist nation in our backyard either with refugees fleeing to America.
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We don't. It is poor quality and watery. But, we don't want another communist nation in our backyard either with refugees fleeing to America.
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U.S. Fracking Oil is what's low quality and waterlogged.
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bump


in case you forgot this thread
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Pdojoe would rather use tin horn dictators oil than to us the USA enormous reserves...dictators have to stick together





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