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How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians

 
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How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
I met a libertarian man on the internet who believes you should have the right to unrestricted abortion, AND full on infanticide after a baby is born, because society should be based on "choice"
he believes that "choice" should mean everything and anything

How do I as a pro life (american solidarity party member) respond to his outrageous and illogical claims
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Re: How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


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Re: How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
I met a libertarian man on the internet who believes you should have the right to unrestricted abortion, AND full on infanticide after a baby is born, because society should be based on "choice"
he believes that "choice" should mean everything and anything

How do I as a pro life (american solidarity party member) respond to his outrageous and illogical claims
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Libertarians are anarchy-capitalist. Everything should be done by the private sector. It means free choice through free markets, abolishment of the income tax, etc.

Murray Rothbard, one of the most influential writers of the liberty movement (the libertarian manifesto) believed that selling your children would be far more beneficial to society than the welfare state. That the person who bought your child is far more likely to care about the child than the person selling the child.

Libertarians (Ron Paul, etc) are pro-life (the right to life includes the unborn) with the choice to sell your child instead of murdering it.

He clearly hasn't read or studied libertarian philosophy.
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There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


huffy
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I feel like the liberal democratic ones are trying to be in the right moral place at least in their distorted view, at least they want to benefit the woman financially during and after pregnancy. I feel like anyone who is conservative/libertarian and still pro choice is truly EVIL in the truest definition of the word, they don't even want to help mothers who choose life, pro abortion republicans have absolutely zero soul, they only want death and inequality, they are impossible to logic with in any way shape or form (to my knowledge)

I am just looking for a method to deal with this nut
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Re: How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
I met a libertarian man on the internet who believes you should have the right to unrestricted abortion, AND full on infanticide after a baby is born, because society should be based on "choice"
he believes that "choice" should mean everything and anything

How do I as a pro life (american solidarity party member) respond to his outrageous and illogical claims
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75951668


Libertarians are anarchy-capitalist. Everything should be done by the private sector. It means free choice through free markets, abolishment of the income tax, etc.

Murray Rothbard, one of the most influential writers of the liberty movement (the libertarian manifesto) believed that selling your children would be far more beneficial to society than the welfare state. That the person who bought your child is far more likely to care about the child than the person selling the child.

Libertarians (Ron Paul, etc) are pro-life (the right to life includes the unborn) with the choice to sell your child instead of murdering it.

He clearly hasn't read or studied libertarian philosophy.
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I don't post as an AC.
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Agree with them. Talk them up on a life without kids and how amazing it is. In a few generations, the problem will solve itself.
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I met a libertarian man on the internet who believes you should have the right to unrestricted abortion, AND full on infanticide after a baby is born, because society should be based on "choice"
he believes that "choice" should mean everything and anything

How do I as a pro life (american solidarity party member) respond to his outrageous and illogical claims
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I don't know but I would point out THOUGHT SHALT NOT MURDER ANOTHER HUMAN BEING and also that CHOICE belongs before the egg is fertilized.
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There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


huffy
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I feel like the liberal democratic ones are trying to be in the right moral place at least in their distorted view, at least they want to benefit the woman financially during and after pregnancy. I feel like anyone who is conservative/libertarian and still pro choice is truly EVIL in the truest definition of the word, they don't even want to help mothers who choose life, pro abortion republicans have absolutely zero soul, they only want death and inequality, they are impossible to logic with in any way shape or form (to my knowledge)

I am just looking for a method to deal with this nut
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If he believes in infanticide, he is a liberal Democrat.
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There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


huffy
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I feel like the liberal democratic ones are trying to be in the right moral place at least in their distorted view, at least they want to benefit the woman financially during and after pregnancy. I feel like anyone who is conservative/libertarian and still pro choice is truly EVIL in the truest definition of the word, they don't even want to help mothers who choose life, pro abortion republicans have absolutely zero soul, they only want death and inequality, they are impossible to logic with in any way shape or form (to my knowledge)

I am just looking for a method to deal with this nut
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If he believes in infanticide, he is a liberal Democrat.
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not necessarily, because he is fiscally conservative on the financial issues
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There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


huffy
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I feel like the liberal democratic ones are trying to be in the right moral place at least in their distorted view, at least they want to benefit the woman financially during and after pregnancy. I feel like anyone who is conservative/libertarian and still pro choice is truly EVIL in the truest definition of the word, they don't even want to help mothers who choose life, pro abortion republicans have absolutely zero soul, they only want death and inequality, they are impossible to logic with in any way shape or form (to my knowledge)

I am just looking for a method to deal with this nut
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75951668


If he believes in infanticide, he is a liberal Democrat.
 Quoting: NikM755


not necessarily, because he is fiscally conservative on the financial issues
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75951668



Oh my, a soulless one only being conservative about their bank account. Where have we seen that before?

The fact of the matter is, you don't have to deal with this guy.

I mean, c'mon, you really think you're going to change his mind or have him see things differently?


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Re: How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
There's no talking to them. Anyone who thinks infanticide is a woman's right has no moral code, no sense of ethics, they have no soul...they're nothing more than bags of bones walking around like they think their opinion matters.

This is the full on bullshit us with souls are having to witness these days.


huffy
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I feel like the liberal democratic ones are trying to be in the right moral place at least in their distorted view, at least they want to benefit the woman financially during and after pregnancy. I feel like anyone who is conservative/libertarian and still pro choice is truly EVIL in the truest definition of the word, they don't even want to help mothers who choose life, pro abortion republicans have absolutely zero soul, they only want death and inequality, they are impossible to logic with in any way shape or form (to my knowledge)

I am just looking for a method to deal with this nut
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75951668


If he believes in infanticide, he is a liberal Democrat.
 Quoting: NikM755


not necessarily, because he is fiscally conservative on the financial issues
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75951668


Well just to make it clear, libertarian philosophy is pro-life, against the welfare state, with the choice to sell your child to someone who will care more for them than you do. That's the libertarian solution. He's NOT a libertarian.
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Re: How does one deal with Pro- infanticide libertarians
A libertarian should support right to life. The question is, when is a fetus/baby considered a life with rights?