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# Globe Earth debunked

LHP598

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03/14/2019 08:12 AM
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Astro can’t even debunk this, never mind prove a globe earth

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

You don't need an equation to show that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

In fact, having an equation can confuse the issue, because the equation may pertain to an issue not related to the action reaction principle.
Quoting: Ball Master 77455278

Does math confuse you? Perhaps rocket science isn’t your thing. As for “every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction”

You are saying that a person that weighs 75kg is deadlifting 100kg and he drops it from a height. Did the person get lifted off the ground? Because that’s basically what you are saying
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77455063

its cute that you think dropping an object where the movement comes from an outside force is the same as a highly energetic continuous explosion and expansion of fuel.
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03/14/2019 08:21 AM
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I'll be staying to my own threads from now on and you won't have to be bothered by all these "hidden posts" you can't handle, except for my threads.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Awwwww...
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It's for a good reason, a very positive thing has come up but I won't be able to reveal what it is for quite a while. You guys keep fighting the good fight though.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
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03/14/2019 09:01 AM

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I'll be staying to my own threads from now on and you won't have to be bothered by all these "hidden posts" you can't handle, except for my threads.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Awwwww...
Quoting: 74444

It's for a good reason, a very positive thing has come up but I won't be able to reveal what it is for quite a while. You guys keep fighting the good fight though.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33790028

You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
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03/14/2019 09:52 AM
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The rockets doesn’t even go to space in your video. How pathetic
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Yes, they do. And in the second video you dishonestly ignore it's already in space to start with.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

The second video looks like a video game from the early 90s
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03/14/2019 09:55 AM

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The rockets doesn’t even go to space in your video. How pathetic
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Yes, they do. And in the second video you dishonestly ignore it's already in space to start with.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

The second video looks like a video game from the early 90s
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456453

No, it does not. It shows a satellite being inserted into geostationary orbit. The telescope is tracking it based on its transfer orbit and the satellite is rapidly accelerated out of the view when the engine is lit to insert it into its final orbit. Your insults carry no weight.
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03/14/2019 09:57 AM
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Astro can’t even debunk this, never mind prove a globe earth

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

You don't need an equation to show that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

In fact, having an equation can confuse the issue, because the equation may pertain to an issue not related to the action reaction principle.
Quoting: Ball Master 77455278

Does math confuse you? Perhaps rocket science isn’t your thing. As for “every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction”

You are saying that a person that weighs 75kg is deadlifting 100kg and he drops it from a height. Did the person get lifted off the ground? Because that’s basically what you are saying
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77455063

Vacuuming a hole in the side of a tube on earth isn't proving the math of spaceflight wrong, it's just demonstrating a massive ignorance of force vectors. As is your example. What is the velocity of the weight the moment he lets go? 0 m/s. Doesn't matter if it accelerates to the ground after that, the velocity of the mass was nil when it left his hands. You don't even understand how f=ma works.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

The equation states that mass flow in an area is a force. Exit velocity no longer matters. Just mass flow and pipe diameter.
In order for the weight to leave my hand, the weight has to move (velocity). Otherwise it would still be in contact with the tip of the finger i didn’t let go.

Gravity and pressure are both potential energies. Movement occurs when You release it
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03/14/2019 10:13 AM

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The equation states that mass flow in an area is a force. Exit velocity no longer matters. Just mass flow and pipe diameter.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456453

Wrong. Thanks for continuing to prove your ignorance. Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. Thank you for continuing to prove how stupid you are.
In order for the weight to leave my hand, the weight has to move (velocity).
Quoting: Idiot

Nope. You let go, the instantaneous velocity is 0, you only released it, you didn't throw it. Velocity starts increasing AFTER your hand has released it.
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03/14/2019 10:29 AM
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The equation states that mass flow in an area is a force. Exit velocity no longer matters. Just mass flow and pipe diameter.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456453

Wrong. Thanks for continuing to prove your ignorance. Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. Thank you for continuing to prove how stupid you are.
In order for the weight to leave my hand, the weight has to move (velocity).
Quoting: Idiot

Nope. You let go, the instantaneous velocity is 0, you only released it, you didn't throw it. Velocity starts increasing AFTER your hand has released it.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.

I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
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03/14/2019 10:41 AM

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The equation states that mass flow in an area is a force. Exit velocity no longer matters. Just mass flow and pipe diameter.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456453

Wrong. Thanks for continuing to prove your ignorance. Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. Thank you for continuing to prove how stupid you are.
In order for the weight to leave my hand, the weight has to move (velocity).
Quoting: Idiot

Nope. You let go, the instantaneous velocity is 0, you only released it, you didn't throw it. Velocity starts increasing AFTER your hand has released it.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
Quoting: fuckingretard

So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.
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03/14/2019 10:54 AM
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Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
Remedial_Rebel

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03/14/2019 11:23 AM

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Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Here's something that maybe, just maybe you'll understand....

Since you like FE university of youtube, Explain the movement of the water hose........

Any objective person will conclude the flow of water is causing opposite reaction force that makes the hose move. Mass flow rate is force. This is high school physics.

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03/14/2019 11:50 AM
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There is no scientific proof of a spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum. There is no observable Earth curvature. No curvature then not a ball, not a ball then you cannot call the Earth a sphere.
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03/14/2019 11:52 AM

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There is no scientific proof of a spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum. There is no observable Earth curvature. No curvature then not a ball, not a ball then you cannot call the Earth a sphere.
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Wrong.

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03/14/2019 12:20 PM
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Astromut:

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03/14/2019 12:22 PM
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There is no scientific proof of a spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum. There is no observable Earth curvature. No curvature then not a ball, not a ball then you cannot call the Earth a sphere.
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03/14/2019 12:33 PM
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The equation states that mass flow in an area is a force. Exit velocity no longer matters. Just mass flow and pipe diameter.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456453

Wrong. Thanks for continuing to prove your ignorance. Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. Thank you for continuing to prove how stupid you are.
In order for the weight to leave my hand, the weight has to move (velocity).
Quoting: Idiot

Nope. You let go, the instantaneous velocity is 0, you only released it, you didn't throw it. Velocity starts increasing AFTER your hand has released it.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
Quoting: fuckingretard

So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

So you are just going to ignore the part where velocity was substituted out of the equation?

And then you are saying I failed at physics without refuting anything with reason
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03/14/2019 12:33 PM
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Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Here's something that maybe, just maybe you'll understand....

Since you like FE university of youtube, Explain the movement of the water hose........

Any objective person will conclude the flow of water is causing opposite reaction force that makes the hose move. Mass flow rate is force. This is high school physics.
Quoting: Remedial_Rebel

Can you rule out with evidence that it is not pushing off air?
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03/14/2019 12:34 PM

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There is no scientific proof of a spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum. There is no observable Earth curvature. No curvature then not a ball, not a ball then you cannot call the Earth a sphere.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73852158

Total BullSh!t

I have been off the coast of Atlantic City more times than I can remember and watched the Casinos (200ft high)sink into ocean going out and rise out coming back.

To say this is optical parallax is a total fallacy. Any optical engineer who designs telescopes, binoculars, cameras, knows optical parallax can not possible cause an optical eclipse. This is true for sunsets and sunrises as well. An optical eclipse requires a physical obstruction. No matter what the distance, the most you will ever see from optical parallax, is objects (sun and horizon) will become tangent and nothing more.

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Wrong. Thanks for continuing to prove your ignorance. Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. Thank you for continuing to prove how stupid you are.
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Nope. You let go, the instantaneous velocity is 0, you only released it, you didn't throw it. Velocity starts increasing AFTER your hand has released it.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
Quoting: fuckingretard

So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

So you are just going to ignore the part where velocity was substituted out of the equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
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03/14/2019 12:43 PM
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Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
Quoting: fuckingretard

So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

So you are just going to ignore the part where velocity was substituted out of the equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

I didn’t try, I did. Using a valid equation. The end result is that it doesn’t work because one equation is wrong. That equation is the nasa equation
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03/14/2019 12:46 PM
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Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
I’m holding the weight between two finger. The weight is contacting my fingers and the hand space between the two fingers. I move one finger, the wieght moves away from the hand space between the two fingers and falls sliding down the finger I didn’t move. How did the wieght move away from my finger if the velocity was 0? Where’s the opposite force?
Quoting: fuckingretard

So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

So you are just going to ignore the part where velocity was substituted out of the equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitute something else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction mass matters. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut

Velocity due to flow rate is described in the video.
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Wrong. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.
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So apparently you failed basic physics and never understood basic force diagrams even for simple cases, like rolling something off a ramp.
Got it. That doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and physics works just fine. But for the previous example if you simply let a weight go it will have no velocity at the moment you release it. Now you're trying to change the example since I proved you wrong.

So you are just going to ignore the part where velocity was substituted out of the equation?

Exit velocity is in the original equation, just because you try to substitut
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut
ing else equal to it does not render the original equation invalid. The velocity of the reaction ma
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056
rs. You can't have "mass flow rate" without velocity.

I didn’t try, I did. Using a valid equation. The end result is that it doesn’t work because one equation is wrong. That equation is the nasa equation

Nope. Th
Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut
on works just fine, substituting in a more complex formula for the velocity of the fluid does not change the fact that the result still varies with the velocity of the
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056
Adjusting exit velocity still reduces the force, you're just trying to obfuscate it by substituting a formula for the velocity of a fluid in a pipe for the exit velocity.
Exit velocity equals Me * sqrt (gamma * R * Te)
where Te = exit temperature
R = gas constant
gamma = specific heat ratio
Me = mach number
If I substitute the above equation into the original formula it doesn't change the fact that exit velocity still matters, I've just substituted in a formula that equals the same thing.
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03/14/2019 01:13 PM
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I took sugar, and milk, and cocoa powder, and made hot chocolate. Now it's hot chocolate. Where is the sugar? Someone is lying. Prove it's not true. You can't address this.
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03/14/2019 01:43 PM
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There is no scientific proof of a spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum. There is no observable Earth curvature. No curvature then not a ball, not a ball then you cannot call the Earth a sphere.
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You mean none you'd accept.
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03/14/2019 02:30 PM
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Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610

I restate this because no one has addressed it and it at least proves atmosphere is spherical
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03/14/2019 03:12 PM

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Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
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I restate this because no one has addressed it and it at least proves atmosphere is spherical
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610

That would be the same for either FE with a dome or Global model with an atmosphere wrapped around the ball, so I'm not sure why you want people to do this in this thread?

Astro, the reason I put you on ignore is that you often post tons of videos, and aren't very gracious about conversation. And since I have very limited bandwidth, I am not interested in watching tons of videos, and I also don't like getting into protracted hostile altercations.

My observations are MY observations. And I don't care to proselytize anyone. It just seems that people don't even want to let other people discuss things that they see that are not inline with what we are taught. There is no logical reason why discussion should be such an affront to anyone.

The shape of the Earth shouldn't be such a difficult thing to prove. If it's a ball, there are plenty of things in space that should be able to show a clear video of it spinning without the use of CGI. It should be relatively simple according to all the things we are told are certain about space.

In my daily life, the shape is irrelevant.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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Yes it does because it shows that the NASA thrust equation is simply stating mass flow rate is force. This is wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456542

Here's something that maybe, just maybe you'll understand....

Since you like FE university of youtube, Explain the movement of the water hose........

Any objective person will conclude the flow of water is causing opposite reaction force that makes the hose move. Mass flow rate is force. This is high school physics.
Quoting: Remedial_Rebel

Can you rule out with evidence that it is not pushing off air?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77443056

Utter complete Bullsh!t.

1 gallon of air(at sea level) is about 0.09 lbs.

1 gallon of water is about 9.0 lbs.

The molecular density/mass of water is 100 times that of air. Pushing against air is insignificant and immaterial.

If rocket thrust was from pushing off air, the forward air résistance would cancel that out.

Get a high school physics book and READ IT!
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03/14/2019 03:42 PM
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A guy that was going to prove rockets work in a vacuum failed 3 times, he then put the rocket in a tube of air, put the tube in the vacuum chamber, rocket fired, he then said see it works, ha

There are plenty of experiments that show combustion does not work in a vacuum, even with things that have their own oxidizer.

The idea of rockets working by pushing off the combustion chamber walls is complete nonsense, the force would be pushing against all surfaces, sides front back top bottom except exit hole, thus negating any directional force.

A spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum is beyond the pale of nonsense.
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03/14/2019 04:04 PM
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State survey is done flat plane
telescopes are aimed flat plane
weather is forecast as flat plane
hurricanes are modeled as flat plane
tornado's are tracked as flat plane
construction is done as flat plane
ball people give it up, Earth it's flat
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Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
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I restate this because no one has addressed it and it at least proves atmosphere is spherical
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610

That would be the same for either FE with a dome or Global model with an atmosphere wrapped around the ball, so I'm not sure why you want people to do this in this thread?

Astro, the reason I put you on ignore is that you often post tons of videos, and aren't very gracious about conversation.
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