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Globe Earth debunked

 
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A guy that was going to prove rockets work in a vacuum failed 3 times, he then put the rocket in a tube of air, put the tube in the vacuum chamber, rocket fired, he then said see it works, ha

There are plenty of experiments that show combustion does not work in a vacuum, even with things that have their own oxidizer.

The idea of rockets working by pushing off the combustion chamber walls is complete nonsense, the force would be pushing against all surfaces, sides front back top bottom except exit hole, thus negating any directional force.

A spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum is beyond the pale of nonsense.
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Direct from University of Youtube........


Will a gun fire in space?


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So combustion can work in a vacuum.

Tune in next time to see the next piece of Flat Earth propaganda.

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Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


I restate this because no one has addressed it and it at least proves atmosphere is spherical
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That would be the same for either FE with a dome or Global model with an atmosphere wrapped around the ball, so I'm not sure why you want people to do this in this thread?

Astro, the reason I put you on ignore is that you often post tons of videos, and aren't very gracious about conversation. And since I have very limited bandwidth, I am not interested in watching tons of videos, and I also don't like getting into protracted hostile altercations.

My observations are MY observations. And I don't care to proselytize anyone. It just seems that people don't even want to let other people discuss things that they see that are not inline with what we are taught. There is no logical reason why discussion should be such an affront to anyone.

The shape of the Earth shouldn't be such a difficult thing to prove. If it's a ball, there are plenty of things in space that should be able to show a clear video of it spinning without the use of CGI. It should be relatively simple according to all the things we are told are certain about space.

In my daily life, the shape is irrelevant.
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Well what is it then, flat or domed or ice pond or what?
What evidence is there for a dome in the sky? Plus if it was a dome then there would be strange retractions depending on the angle and wavelength, so you'd have certain stars literally jump across the top with slow, shifted bireftingent rays. Take a few physics classes and you will see how much is predicated on spherical geometry. The pyramids have the radius of the earth and different planet properties encoded in them. So what would be the reasoning behind this?
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A guy that was going to prove rockets work in a vacuum failed 3 times, he then put the rocket in a tube of air, put the tube in the vacuum chamber, rocket fired, he then said see it works, ha

There are plenty of experiments that show combustion does not work in a vacuum, even with things that have their own oxidizer.

The idea of rockets working by pushing off the combustion chamber walls is complete nonsense, the force would be pushing against all surfaces, sides front back top bottom except exit hole, thus negating any directional force.

A spinning water ball Earth in a vacuum is beyond the pale of nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73852158


Direct from University of Youtube........


Will a gun fire in space?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



So combustion can work in a vacuum.

Tune in next time to see the next piece of Flat Earth propaganda.
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firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
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Note with a gun there is no recoil until the bullet leaves the gun.
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Note with a gun there is no recoil until the bullet leaves the gun.
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Prove it
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firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
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1st. Exactly how does that prove combustion does not occur in vacuum? It obviously does occur in a vacuum.

2nd. If you have read the previous post, the idea that thrust is created from push off air is a total fallacy. If rocket thrust was from pushing off air, the forward air résistance would cancel that out.

3rd. Name one, just ONE! qualified, reputable, researchable aerospace engineer that supports your claim or any other flat earth propaganda.

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I wasn't addressing the AC as if it were you. Just addressing the AC. Not sure why you think I was acting as though it was you.

Look, I am not generally rude or demeaning to anyone. If they are completely crass or pedo supporters, yeah, those people I can and will be rude to from time time.

And I have never been rude to you either. You took umbrage with a statement I made, and refuse to accept that it was an error on my part to not be more careful about noting YOUR photos are not NASA photos.

And I've looked at videos saying they were vids of the Earth rotating, only to find out that they were spliced together.

If you would please post one here, that you vouch is NOT CGI or spliced, I will definitely look at it in the next couple of days. Unless it's really short, then I can look at it immediately.
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Awwwww...
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It's for a good reason, a very positive thing has come up but I won't be able to reveal what it is for quite a while. You guys keep fighting the good fight though.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
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You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
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I wasn't addressing the AC as if it were you. Just addressing the AC.
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Stop lying.
Grab two pairs of polarizing sunglasses
Line them up and look directly above you into the sky when the sun is at 10 o clock relative to your position

Rayleigh scattering predicts light will be polarized linearly when traveling through a spherical medium i.e. the atmosphere because of nitrogen/oxygen dipole transmittance. A jones vector matrix reduction can quickly show this

Tell me what happens when you rotate the sunglasses perpendicular to each other.

Come back here with your results..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


I restate this because no one has addressed it and it at least proves atmosphere is spherical
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That would be the same for either FE with a dome or Global model with an atmosphere wrapped around the ball, so I'm not sure why you want people to do this in this thread?

Astro, the reason I put you on ignore is that you often post tons of videos, and aren't very gracious about conversation.
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It's for a good reason, a very positive thing has come up but I won't be able to reveal what it is for quite a while. You guys keep fighting the good fight though.
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Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
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You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
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Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
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Already did.

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It's for a good reason, a very positive thing has come up but I won't be able to reveal what it is for quite a while. You guys keep fighting the good fight though.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33790028

You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927

How many times does it need to be said? The atmosphere decreases in pressure with altitude which indicates that it is pressurized by its own weight. It appears you have no answer for this, yet continue to make the claim it rebutts.
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Globe earth is an idea, with no proof or evidence.



let the nonsensical excuses begin...……………..
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firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
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1st. Exactly how does that prove combustion does not occur in vacuum? It obviously does occur in a vacuum.

2nd. If you have read the previous post, the idea that thrust is created from push off air is a total fallacy. If rocket thrust was from pushing off air, the forward air résistance would cancel that out.

3rd. Name one, just ONE! qualified, reputable, researchable aerospace engineer that supports your claim or any other flat earth propaganda.
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


1.Combustion of gun powder occurs in casing with has gunpowder and air and no vaccum.
2. Based on that assumption car is always motionless?
3 . They have family to feed and that pride
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Direct from University of Youtube........


Will a gun fire in space?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



So combustion can work in a vacuum.

Tune in next time to see the next piece of Flat Earth propaganda.
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel

firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76732377



If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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Fight whoever you want.
Objective reality really isn't up for an argument, fight or debate it just is what it is.
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You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927

How many times does it need to be said? The atmosphere decreases in pressure with altitude which indicates that it is pressurized by its own weight. It appears you have no answer for this, yet continue to make the claim it rebutts.
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"Indicates" does it? All very good, yet again though, no practical demonstration of this "indication". Doesn't matter what's indicated where.
I'll ask you to practically demonstrate a gas pressure gradient without containment please......you can't; as it's not possible, so I can refute your claims as fanciful indoctrinated fundamentalist ideas.

Nothing tangible still.....what we got 8 pages now? 8 pages of fake knowledge, regurgitated bluster and the usual pigeons shitting on the chess board and proclaiming victory.

Not very convincing this globe cult.
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I wasn't addressing the AC as if it were you. Just addressing the AC. Not sure why you think I was acting as though it was you.

Look, I am not generally rude or demeaning to anyone. If they are completely crass or pedo supporters, yeah, those people I can and will be rude to from time time.

And I have never been rude to you either. You took umbrage with a statement I made, and refuse to accept that it was an error on my part to not be more careful about noting YOUR photos are not NASA photos.

And I've looked at videos saying they were vids of the Earth rotating, only to find out that they were spliced together.

If you would please post one here, that you vouch is NOT CGI or spliced, I will definitely look at it in the next couple of days. Unless it's really short, then I can look at it immediately.
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You actually addressed Astro by name in that post to the AC.
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If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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Nice!

And here a 5 more problems for FE...

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If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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Nice!

And here a 5 more problems for FE...

[link to www.forbes.com (secure)]
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Great article, but probably too many words for the average flat earther to comprehend.
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You have no idea what this is about and I wasn't talking to you so shut the fuk up.
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Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927

How many times does it need to be said? The atmosphere decreases in pressure with altitude which indicates that it is pressurized by its own weight. It appears you have no answer for this, yet continue to make the claim it rebutts.
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"Indicates" does it? All very good, yet again though, no practical demonstration of this "indication". Doesn't matter what's indicated where.
I'll ask you to practically demonstrate a gas pressure gradient without containment please......you can't; as it's not possible, so I can refute your claims as fanciful indoctrinated fundamentalist ideas.

Nothing tangible still.....what we got 8 pages now? 8 pages of fake knowledge, regurgitated bluster and the usual pigeons shitting on the chess board and proclaiming victory.

Not very convincing this globe cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927


Again, how many times does it need to be said? The air in front of you is under pressure without containment, demonstrated. Air is under pressure due to its weight. How would we disprove it? One way in mathematical proof is by contradiction. Assume what is stated is true, and look for a contradiction. If you find a contradiction, it is disproven. Please go ahead.

Or, we can do it the other way. Assume the statement that the atmosphere is pressurized due to its weight, and not otherwise "contained" is false. Now lets find a contradiction. For one, we know air has weight which we can easily demonstrate, and air pressure increases at lower altitude due to the weight of the air above it. It must, of course, if it has weight. And there we have at least one contradiction.

Now can you find a contradiction of the previous? Find a contradiction to this statement: The air in front of you is under pressure without containment (excluding the "containment" of being under pressure by its own weight against the earth).
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Direct from University of Youtube........


Will a gun fire in space?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



So combustion can work in a vacuum.

Tune in next time to see the next piece of Flat Earth propaganda.
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel

firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
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If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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The fraud here is that he is resorting his little rocket on that metal frame. The rocket is pushing off that metal frame. Is there metal frames in space tonpush off of?
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Direct from University of Youtube........


Will a gun fire in space?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



So combustion can work in a vacuum.

Tune in next time to see the next piece of Flat Earth propaganda.
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel

firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76732377



If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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The fraud here is that he is resorting his little rocket on that metal frame. The rocket is pushing off that metal frame. Is there metal frames in space tonpush off of?
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Further demonstration that it doesn't matter what evidence is presented. NOTHING will change the true Flat Earth believer's mind.

Flat Earth: the Religion.
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The Spanish and Portuguese explorers proved the world was round by sailing around it. They did not sail off the edge of it. I can get in a plane and fly from NYC all the way around the world back to NYC. I don't fall off the earth. When you look at the Sun, Moon and all the other planets, they are round. Why would the earth be any different.
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The Spanish and Portuguese explorers proved the world was round by sailing around it. They did not sail off the edge of it. I can get in a plane and fly from NYC all the way around the world back to NYC. I don't fall off the earth. When you look at the Sun, Moon and all the other planets, they are round. Why would the earth be any different.
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The Flat Earthers say it is round but flat, with North in the middle, so if you sail East for example, you will go all the way around and return to your starting place.

They believe the Earth is unique among planets, being either create by God or by aliens as some kind of zoo.

Some Flat Earthers believe that are other Earth-like "ponds" on the great ice plane, so that thousands of miles away (that is, thousands of miles away from the ice wall that you call Antarctica), there are other continents that the elite don't want you to know about.
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Let's hope you're actually gonna practically demonstrate that gas pressure without containment, instead of just pretending you did x
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How many times does it need to be said? The atmosphere decreases in pressure with altitude which indicates that it is pressurized by its own weight. It appears you have no answer for this, yet continue to make the claim it rebutts.
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"Indicates" does it? All very good, yet again though, no practical demonstration of this "indication". Doesn't matter what's indicated where.
I'll ask you to practically demonstrate a gas pressure gradient without containment please......you can't; as it's not possible, so I can refute your claims as fanciful indoctrinated fundamentalist ideas.

Nothing tangible still.....what we got 8 pages now? 8 pages of fake knowledge, regurgitated bluster and the usual pigeons shitting on the chess board and proclaiming victory.

Not very convincing this globe cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927


Again, how many times does it need to be said? The air in front of you is under pressure without containment, demonstrated. Air is under pressure due to its weight. How would we disprove it? One way in mathematical proof is by contradiction. Assume what is stated is true, and look for a contradiction. If you find a contradiction, it is disproven. Please go ahead.

Or, we can do it the other way. Assume the statement that the atmosphere is pressurized due to its weight, and not otherwise "contained" is false. Now lets find a contradiction. For one, we know air has weight which we can easily demonstrate, and air pressure increases at lower altitude due to the weight of the air above it. It must, of course, if it has weight. And there we have at least one contradiction.

Now can you find a contradiction of the previous? Find a contradiction to this statement: The air in front of you is under pressure without containment (excluding the "containment" of being under pressure by its own weight against the earth).
 Quoting: syncro


Still no practical demonstration, only just so stories.

To have gas pressure or a gas pressure gradient you absolutely MUST have containment.
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Why must microwave antennas/repeaters have to be spaced so as to avoid the curvature blocking the signal? Checkmate
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firing a gun, yes there is recoil because pressure builds up between the gun and bullet. The pressure pushes the bullet out and in turn pushes the gun. A rocket is like a gun firing a blank. The powder burns and moves out of the barrel only pushing off the air (assuming the gun powder was not encased in anything).
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If you are impatient:
Test setup is shown at 11:40
Test in slow motion (1200 fps) starts at 12:40

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 Quoting: Hydra


The fraud here is that he is resorting his little rocket on that metal frame. The rocket is pushing off that metal frame. Is there metal frames in space tonpush off of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77418720


Further demonstration that it doesn't matter what evidence is presented. NOTHING will change the true Flat Earth believer's mind.

Flat Earth: the Religion.
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Do you want to talk religion, looks like your religion is Luciferian. Flat earth is not a religion, it is a theory. Only a theory. Based on scientific facts that contradict the globe model that you continue to propagate. Here’s a question for you to answer, find the curve of the earth. Until you do this you have just been deceived by your Freemason, Lucifer worshiping masters.
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How many times does it need to be said? The atmosphere decreases in pressure with altitude which indicates that it is pressurized by its own weight. It appears you have no answer for this, yet continue to make the claim it rebutts.
 Quoting: syncro


"Indicates" does it? All very good, yet again though, no practical demonstration of this "indication". Doesn't matter what's indicated where.
I'll ask you to practically demonstrate a gas pressure gradient without containment please......you can't; as it's not possible, so I can refute your claims as fanciful indoctrinated fundamentalist ideas.

Nothing tangible still.....what we got 8 pages now? 8 pages of fake knowledge, regurgitated bluster and the usual pigeons shitting on the chess board and proclaiming victory.

Not very convincing this globe cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927


Again, how many times does it need to be said? The air in front of you is under pressure without containment, demonstrated. Air is under pressure due to its weight. How would we disprove it? One way in mathematical proof is by contradiction. Assume what is stated is true, and look for a contradiction. If you find a contradiction, it is disproven. Please go ahead.

Or, we can do it the other way. Assume the statement that the atmosphere is pressurized due to its weight, and not otherwise "contained" is false. Now lets find a contradiction. For one, we know air has weight which we can easily demonstrate, and air pressure increases at lower altitude due to the weight of the air above it. It must, of course, if it has weight. And there we have at least one contradiction.

Now can you find a contradiction of the previous? Find a contradiction to this statement: The air in front of you is under pressure without containment (excluding the "containment" of being under pressure by its own weight against the earth).
 Quoting: syncro


Still no practical demonstration, only just so stories.

To have gas pressure or a gas pressure gradient you absolutely MUST have containment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77456927


Can you support your assertion, or give a contradiction to this statement? The atmosphere is under pressure without containment. If we cannot contradict it, we must admit it is true to our knowledge.
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Tell me Is skyrim flatearth or a globe...

Flat/Globe/Mekaba ... doesn't matter we ARE living in a simulation.
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Yup. Don't fall for the Globe lie. We are in some sort of flat/enclosed/motionless construct. Our world seems to be shaped/controlled by our thoughts/perceptions/beliefs/consciousness.

Why the globe/space lie? Possibly the space agency budgets going straight to C_A/Deep State projects. To the tune of $20 billion per year recently.

A few years ago NASA, Google and the [Clowns In Action] all jointly bought a D-Wave quantum computer together.

I thought that was very interesting.
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