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How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?

 
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How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
I don't get it.

How is it possible to track you down?
Anonymous Coward
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03/11/2019 07:04 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
they could be running the vpns

also there are various ways to identify a computer, such as mac address, browser fingerprint, ect ect ect
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03/11/2019 07:05 AM

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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
they could be running the vpns
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Isn't that how Tor is compromised (at the exit nodes)?
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03/11/2019 07:10 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
they could be running the vpns
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Isn't that how Tor is compromised (at the exit nodes)?
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You need to run tails aswell.

The nods are nsa/CIA.
Sometime does pretty obvious when you look at the I p's and see where they're located.


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03/11/2019 07:11 AM
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PRISM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Why do you think you’d be given access to something they don’t already have a back door to?
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03/11/2019 07:15 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
It takes skill but the NSA CIA FBI Interpol and many other organisations can do it with ease all it takes is time to track the location so the more you spoof your ip the more longer it will take them to find ya.
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03/11/2019 07:16 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
because they speak directly to the CPU backdoor.
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03/11/2019 07:28 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Never trust an OS , your wife or a VPN.
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03/11/2019 07:31 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
The question is do they really care that much?
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
they could be running the vpns

also there are various ways to identify a computer, such as mac address, browser fingerprint, ect ect ect
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77390702


I just dont buy this FUD about three letter agencies running all VPNs. No evidence to support this. In fact many VPN have flat out told them they have no logs when data was requested.
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03/11/2019 07:40 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
I don't get it.

How is it possible to track you down?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75358696


Man, this whole thing is run by them, if you think they dont know what any given person is up to, it might be safe to add another level to your paranoia and start assuming they know someone who knows what your up to.
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Relax buddies, nobody cares what kind of porn you watch (unless it's CP)
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03/11/2019 07:51 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
they could be running the vpns

also there are various ways to identify a computer, such as mac address, browser fingerprint, ect ect ect
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77390702


Your writing style and compare it with other identities you have not masked online, they could control the ISP you use or rather have access to either willingly or they hacked the ISP and have backdoors to it.

When they got their suspicion they go look what ISP you pay for and send a request or they have access already or use a backdoor into the ISP and then monitor your traffic at the ISP and then the supiscion is either confirmed or you were not the one they were looking for.

And also there's plenty of programs that send shit to the makers and those makers probably like to share or they're hacked.

Also there's the data gathering centers, like Echelon.
Sweden has a ginormous data collecting center with the Swedish FRA
Pretty cool logo:
[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

Here's the swedish wiki about Försvarets Radioanstalt:
[link to sv.wikipedia.org (secure)]

it catches all traffic from Russia that goes between Russia and the US from say Moscow.

Some detective work but they can find you.
They found that guy Sabu of LulzSec and he was way more careful than most.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

still he messed up in one point and they got him.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

there's probably more ways to find out who people are, the experts here will probably tell us.
hf
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
The question is do they really care that much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59195465


Control Freaks can be very "caring".
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
There's something I want OP to know.

If you think and act like you're always being watched. You won't do anything stoopid, because you'll think whoever is watching you knows everything.

We can safely say that everyone is being watched, or at least we should think so and act accordingly.

People who are nerds can run but not hide. The only people safe from NSA spying are African Subsistence Farmers...
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
The question is do they really care that much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59195465


Control Freaks can be very "caring".
 Quoting: AltSwede


Only way to avoid extreme paranoia is to not use any form of communication at all. They aren't that competent yet. Ive even read some cases where they basically gave up on the investigation because of a VPN.
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
There's something I want OP to know.

If you think and act like you're always being watched. You won't do anything stoopid, because you'll think whoever is watching you knows everything.

We can safely say that everyone is being watched, or at least we should think so and act accordingly.

People who are nerds can run but not hide. The only people safe from NSA spying are African Subsistence Farmers...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 76750439


People who are nerds? You obviously dont knoe shit about it so stop spreading FUD. Everyone is not being watched. They "watch" people of interest. They may record all encrypted communication by they dont have the means to go through all of it yet.
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
There's something I want OP to know.

If you think and act like you're always being watched. You won't do anything stoopid, because you'll think whoever is watching you knows everything.

We can safely say that everyone is being watched, or at least we should think so and act accordingly.

People who are nerds can run but not hide. The only people safe from NSA spying are African Subsistence Farmers...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 76750439


People who are nerds? You obviously dont knoe shit about it so stop spreading FUD. Everyone is not being watched. They "watch" people of interest. They may record all encrypted communication by they dont have the means to go through all of it yet.
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I think it's safer to assume they do have the means and are looking at everyone.

Don't do anything stoopid and nothing bad will happen to you.

The people with the motives and means can troll through your meta data at their leisure. All they need is for you to ping one of their interests and they'll find your entire internet history.
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03/11/2019 08:37 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
There's something I want OP to know.

If you think and act like you're always being watched. You won't do anything stoopid, because you'll think whoever is watching you knows everything.

We can safely say that everyone is being watched, or at least we should think so and act accordingly.

People who are nerds can run but not hide. The only people safe from NSA spying are African Subsistence Farmers...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 76750439


People who are nerds? You obviously dont knoe shit about it so stop spreading FUD. Everyone is not being watched. They "watch" people of interest. They may record all encrypted communication by they dont have the means to go through all of it yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74670671


I think it's safer to assume they do have the means and are looking at everyone.

Don't do anything stoopid and nothing bad will happen to you.

The people with the motives and means can troll through your meta data at their leisure. All they need is for you to ping one of their interests and they'll find your entire internet history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750439


Yes, I agree its safe to assume that they are recording encrypted coms. Im not so sure they can just "troll" through encrypted communication at thier leisure. Itrs. Likley a bit more complicated, costly and time consuming than that.
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03/11/2019 08:40 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Every packet has your address.
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
There's something I want OP to know.

If you think and act like you're always being watched. You won't do anything stoopid, because you'll think whoever is watching you knows everything.

We can safely say that everyone is being watched, or at least we should think so and act accordingly.

People who are nerds can run but not hide. The only people safe from NSA spying are African Subsistence Farmers...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 76750439


People who are nerds? You obviously dont knoe shit about it so stop spreading FUD. Everyone is not being watched. They "watch" people of interest. They may record all encrypted communication by they dont have the means to go through all of it yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74670671


I think it's safer to assume they do have the means and are looking at everyone.

Don't do anything stoopid and nothing bad will happen to you.

The people with the motives and means can troll through your meta data at their leisure. All they need is for you to ping one of their interests and they'll find your entire internet history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76750439


You are assuming that these places basically have encryption keys for everything. While its safe to assume they do for safety reasons. Its likley that they dont given the push to ban encryption by most of the 5 ayes.

Look anything can be tracked by a state actor if its valuable enough. Doesnt mean a VPN is not a usefull tool to avoid data mining by corporations and hackers.
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03/11/2019 08:42 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Every packet has your address.
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If you are using a VPN that packet is encrypted.
Anonymous Coward
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03/11/2019 08:49 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
All of the above.
Anonymous Coward
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03/11/2019 01:47 PM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
The VPNs are all owned or controlled by the insurrection.

If you start a VPN service and don't cooperate you get squished.

Even at that they probably don't bother because all the VPN software likely has back doors.

If the software doesn't the operating system does.

If the operating system doesn't the hardware does.

If the hardware didn't they have brainwashed and hypnotized about everyone and you not only won't start a VPN service to begin with but you would screw it up on purpose if you did.
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03/11/2019 01:57 PM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
get a CB radio...hard to intercept trasmissions
Anonymous Coward
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03/26/2019 11:17 AM
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get a CB radio...hard to intercept trasmissions
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Can't tell if this is a joke or not?


One of the best way to hide transmissions is encryption with bursting.
Anonymous Coward
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03/26/2019 11:19 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Who cares,they are just garbage collectors.trash in trash out.if they had any real power,our country wouldnt be a shithole police state.
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Say something bad.

See if a couple secret service fellas show up at your front door.

Problem answered.

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03/26/2019 11:37 AM
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Re: How can NSA track you down even if you hop through multiple VPNs?
Lot of FUD being spread here.
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They are coming for you steve.