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Your computer's hard drive may be listening to you - and recording everything

 
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Is that a relationship term yet, talking to a box and a box listening?
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Considering you still need to either remote hack in or have physical access to run the software in the first place

The fact that any system worth it's salt will have several fans in it (7 fans is not rare ) and soundproofing . Actually recording anything of any decent quality is going to be highly problematic

And if they did finally get a recording it would most likely just be either rutting sounds from the filth being watched or the grunting of a high anergy wank
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I have taken apart countless hard drives. Not once have I ever seen any proof that there is a microphone inside the drive. Total bullshit.
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You don't comprehend very well do you. It has nothing to do with a built in microphone.
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Yeah Yeah I didnt read the article cause its horseshit for ancient tech. Nobody even cares about HDD anymore. Throw it in the trash.
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go fetch your $3.5


It is not about if HDDs are or are not used anymore but about being able to use seemingly harmless hardware as spy devices to record your conversation for example.

What else they can record with newer technology we are not aware of, no one knows. Maybe they can scan our rooms too via some sophisticated form of electromagnetic waves fluctuations in some components of our monitors or other devices in our computers.

With headphones attached to your computer we already knew that they could in principle turn headphones into mics simply by changing the port into a receiver via software.
Anyone can record audio simply by plugging his headphones into the mic input.

The HDD example is just way more sophisticated for average joe. For those who have been building those devices, not so much. You can be assured that they knew exactly about this usecase and that it has been already exploited by the 3 letter agencies ample times.
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Hello Bibi can you hear me?

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I have taken apart countless hard drives. Not once have I ever seen any proof that there is a microphone inside the drive. Total bullshit.
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HDDs use a voice coil to position the actuator


 Quoting: Red John


The person made a speaker out of a hard drive platter. Big whoop. Not a microphone.
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I have taken apart countless hard drives. Not once have I ever seen any proof that there is a microphone inside the drive. Total bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76249074


You don't comprehend very well do you. It has nothing to do with a built in microphone.
 Quoting: Beast


Yeah Yeah I didnt read the article cause its horseshit for ancient tech. Nobody even cares about HDD anymore. Throw it in the trash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77457008


go fetch your $3.5


It is not about if HDDs are or are not used anymore but about being able to use seemingly harmless hardware as spy devices to record your conversation for example.

What else they can record with newer technology we are not aware of, no one knows. Maybe they can scan our rooms too via some sophisticated form of electromagnetic waves fluctuations in some components of our monitors or other devices in our computers.

With headphones attached to your computer we already knew that they could in principle turn headphones into mics simply by changing the port into a receiver via software.
Anyone can record audio simply by plugging his headphones into the mic input.

The HDD example is just way more sophisticated for average joe. For those who have been building those devices, not so much. You can be assured that they knew exactly about this usecase and that it has been already exploited by the 3 letter agencies ample times.
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wtfdid

Nobody is using this shit for anything. Go buy another roll of foil and get to work.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


so you mean a hard drive in a sealed computer case with fans blowing in it can record a regular level conversation within x feet of the computer?

gee I wish some of my good quality recording microphones were that sensitive... LOL.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


so you mean a hard drive in a sealed computer case with fans blowing in it can record a regular level conversation within x feet of the computer?

gee I wish some of my good quality recording microphones were that sensitive... LOL.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


Exactly! While possible not a very effective way of monitoring anything. Look if they want to monitor you bad enough to turn your computer speakers or HDD into a spy microphone you got bigger problems.
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You don't comprehend very well do you. It has nothing to do with a built in microphone.
 Quoting: Beast


Yeah Yeah I didnt read the article cause its horseshit for ancient tech. Nobody even cares about HDD anymore. Throw it in the trash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77457008


go fetch your $3.5


It is not about if HDDs are or are not used anymore but about being able to use seemingly harmless hardware as spy devices to record your conversation for example.

What else they can record with newer technology we are not aware of, no one knows. Maybe they can scan our rooms too via some sophisticated form of electromagnetic waves fluctuations in some components of our monitors or other devices in our computers.

With headphones attached to your computer we already knew that they could in principle turn headphones into mics simply by changing the port into a receiver via software.
Anyone can record audio simply by plugging his headphones into the mic input.

The HDD example is just way more sophisticated for average joe. For those who have been building those devices, not so much. You can be assured that they knew exactly about this usecase and that it has been already exploited by the 3 letter agencies ample times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439726


wtfdid

Nobody is using this shit for anything. Go buy another roll of foil and get to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75758578


You cannot really be that stupid to not understand the point i was making.

Just in case. The point is that similar spy technology can and will probably be included in other components of devices you buy. With nanotechnology and a better understanding of Quantum mechanics, YOU certainly as well as most of us mere mortals won't be able to detect nanoscopic components which can be re-purposed as sensors for audio or video and even molecular scanners.

So no, you are not safe with SSDs because you and the other 99.99% have no clue if any of the components inside an SSD can be re-purposed as some kind of sophisticated nano-sensor
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Yeah Yeah I didnt read the article cause its horseshit for ancient tech. Nobody even cares about HDD anymore. Throw it in the trash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77457008


go fetch your $3.5


It is not about if HDDs are or are not used anymore but about being able to use seemingly harmless hardware as spy devices to record your conversation for example.

What else they can record with newer technology we are not aware of, no one knows. Maybe they can scan our rooms too via some sophisticated form of electromagnetic waves fluctuations in some components of our monitors or other devices in our computers.

With headphones attached to your computer we already knew that they could in principle turn headphones into mics simply by changing the port into a receiver via software.
Anyone can record audio simply by plugging his headphones into the mic input.

The HDD example is just way more sophisticated for average joe. For those who have been building those devices, not so much. You can be assured that they knew exactly about this usecase and that it has been already exploited by the 3 letter agencies ample times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439726


wtfdid

Nobody is using this shit for anything. Go buy another roll of foil and get to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75758578


You cannot really be that stupid to not understand the point i was making.

Just in case. The point is that similar spy technology can and will probably be included in other components of devices you buy. With nanotechnology and a better understanding of Quantum mechanics, YOU certainly as well as most of us mere mortals won't be able to detect nanoscopic components which can be re-purposed as sensors for audio or video and even molecular scanners.

So no, you are not safe with SSDs because you and the other 99.99% have no clue if any of the components inside an SSD can be re-purposed as some kind of sophisticated nano-sensor
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439726


So they are going to start putting super expensive to manufacture and implement nano components in all of the cheaply made crap from China? Yeah ok.
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Just use a SSD and you won't have to worry about it.
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Sure. When your SSD fails, you've lost everything. At least with platters, you have some hope of recovering much of your data.

This idea is techwiz, but it's much less practical than using microphones or speakers that are readily available.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


bible says FEAR NOT
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The bible says a lot of dumb things.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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bible says FEAR NOT
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Don't break the law and there is nothing to fear, because by following it, you are free from it. Pretty simple.
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Just use a SSD and you won't have to worry about it.
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Sure. When your SSD fails, you've lost everything. At least with platters, you have some hope of recovering much of your data.

This idea is techwiz, but it's much less practical than using microphones or speakers that are readily available.
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Use two SSD and backup to one. They are dirt cheap now and much faster.
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Is that a relationship term yet, talking to a box and a box listening?
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I have taken apart countless hard drives. Not once have I ever seen any proof that there is a microphone inside the drive. Total bullshit.
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He didn't say there was any microphone inside. The head and platters ACT LIKE A MIC inside and with the right software you can use that principle to "listen in".
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Is that a relationship term yet, talking to a box and a box listening?
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Well there is a film called "chatterbox"...
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I have taken apart countless hard drives. Not once have I ever seen any proof that there is a microphone inside the drive. Total bullshit.
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He didn't say there was any microphone inside. The head and platters ACT LIKE A MIC inside and with the right software you can use that principle to "listen in".
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Ok but the title is misleading. Very likely that absolutely nobody is doing this outside of a lab setting.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


so you mean a hard drive in a sealed computer case with fans blowing in it can record a regular level conversation within x feet of the computer?

gee I wish some of my good quality recording microphones were that sensitive... LOL.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


The last baby monitor I bought was so sensitive it was unreal. Hear everything in the whole house with it in the backroom and door closed lol.
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Just use SSD, you still use HDD?
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But like stated above:
"So no, you are not safe with SSDs because you and the other 99.99% have no clue if any of the components inside an SSD can be re-purposed as some kind of sophisticated nano-sensor"
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


so you mean a hard drive in a sealed computer case with fans blowing in it can record a regular level conversation within x feet of the computer?

gee I wish some of my good quality recording microphones were that sensitive... LOL.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


The last baby monitor I bought was so sensitive it was unreal. Hear everything in the whole house with it in the backroom and door closed lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77047423


That is a high definition microphone with an amplifier. Not an HDD platter. The tin foil runs deep here.
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But like stated above:
"So no, you are not safe with SSDs because you and the other 99.99% have no clue if any of the components inside an SSD can be re-purposed as some kind of sophisticated nano-sensor"
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I have a better clue than most. You dont know me.
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This is hypothetical theoretical bs essentially.
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This is hypothetical theoretical bs essentially.
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Exactly. Only reproducible under certain lab conditions.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


so you mean a hard drive in a sealed computer case with fans blowing in it can record a regular level conversation within x feet of the computer?

gee I wish some of my good quality recording microphones were that sensitive... LOL.
 Quoting: rosicrucian1


The last baby monitor I bought was so sensitive it was unreal. Hear everything in the whole house with it in the backroom and door closed lol.
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That is a high definition microphone with an amplifier. Not an HDD platter. The tin foil runs deep here.
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This is hypothetical theoretical bs essentially.
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Exactly. Only reproducible under certain lab conditions.
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thank you.

I mean, JC, think about all the REAL microphones and cameras around us already in REALITY.

For 99.9999999% of people worrying about this OP's story is just silly, even for a conspiracy site.

DID ANYONE EVER NOTICE THE TV SERIES called Person of Interest?
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Ok, read the synopsis. This study was done to see how effective sound waves could be in disabling or damaging a HDD. It has nothing to do with turning a hard drive platter into some sort of recording device. While theoretically possible this paper does not even show proof it was done successfully.

What a bunch of crap.
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Hmm, hopefully it has a recording of how my niece treated me, so I can send to her father. chuckle
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Right!? chuckle I do next to nothing on a computer, am not a criminal, am definitely opinionated, but wish no harm to another human being unless of course you want to harm a fellow countryman. You have to be bored out of your mind to be listening to me, im not even on social networks.


But does that even matter? Because regardless of the reason they are doing it for, it is in direct violation of your right to privacy and an egregious attack on your pursuit of happiness. It is illegal.peace
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