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Your computer's hard drive may be listening to you - and recording everything

 
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This publication just proves it overall better to use a SSD in any machine. The sound waves used to disable or damage the HDD in this study would have been completely ineffective on a SSD.

Overall it was an interesting read but the original thread is off topic from the intent of the study. I am having a hard time connecting the two honestly.
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My computer has and STD, ummm SSD!

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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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I could not find any proof of these claims in the publication. You have made all this up.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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I could not find any proof of these claims in the publication. You have made all this up.
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Stupid shits like you is why we ended up in a full surveillance dystopia.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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I could not find any proof of these claims in the publication. You have made all this up.
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Stupid shits like you is why we ended up in a full surveillance dystopia.
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Did you even read the publication? It says absolutely nothing about what the OP is claiming. NOTHING! The study was done to see if HDD using Windows 10 or Ubutu could be disable using hyper sonic sound waves. I doubt you even read it.
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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bible says FEAR NOT
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Don't break the law and there is nothing to fear, because by following it, you are free from it. Pretty simple.
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...along with stupid shits like this, why we are already under 24/7 surveillance, only to get worse in the future when nano sensors powered by infrared rectennas will enter your colons to make sure Big Brother really knows everything about you.
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SSD?
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FTW
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The computers' hard drive can be used as a microphone, allowing intruders to listen to the conversations between people around the device.

To demonstrate how to turn a computer hard drive into a microphone, Connor Bolton and his colleagues at the University of Michigan, USA, used the feedback system that helps position the read head above the magnetic disk.

When the read head is struck by sound waves, the mechanical vibrations interfere with the voltage signal produced by the drive position sensors.

By monitoring this signal, Bolton was able to make high quality recordings of people talking near the computer.

According to the team, malicious software can use this technique to record audio and then secretly send it to a remote site, invading a home or office without having to go in there to plant a microphone spy.

[link to spqr.eecs.umich.edu (secure)]
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bible says FEAR NOT
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Don't break the law and there is nothing to fear, because by following it, you are free from it. Pretty simple.
 Quoting: Osmium76


...along with stupid shits like this, why we are already under 24/7 surveillance, only to get worse in the future when nano sensors powered by infrared rectennas will enter your colons to make sure Big Brother really knows everything about you.
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While this maybe true. It has nothing to do with this Journal Publication. You are the stupid blind bullshit here my man.
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It's ok OP, bunch of dipshit dumbasses in this thread can't even comprehend the implications of this kind of security research.

I didn't either see anything about conversations not to say it's impossible,

Dumbasses,

Researchers already showed data transfer between two computers with temperature fluctuations alone.
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It's ok OP, bunch of dipshit dumbasses in this thread can't even comprehend the implications of this kind of security research.

I didn't either see anything about conversations not to say it's impossible,

Dumbasses,

Researchers already showed data transfer between two computers with temperature fluctuations alone.
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Fuck you this has nothing to do with what the OP posted. The article is about weaponizing sound to damage computer systems. Nowhere in this publication does it even theorize being about to collect meaningful data from soundwaves hitting a HDD platter. GTFO
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...


I did not click the link because the important information is already in OP's text which seems plausible.

However, it seems strange that i cannot find the article to OP's text. Maybe OP has uncle intel
bible says FEAR NOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77395533


Don't break the law and there is nothing to fear, because by following it, you are free from it. Pretty simple.
 Quoting: Osmium76


...along with stupid shits like this, why we are already under 24/7 surveillance, only to get worse in the future when nano sensors powered by infrared rectennas will enter your colons to make sure Big Brother really knows everything about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439726


While this maybe true. It has nothing to do with this Journal Publication. You are the stupid blind bullshit here my man.
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bible says FEAR NOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77395533


Don't break the law and there is nothing to fear, because by following it, you are free from it. Pretty simple.
 Quoting: Osmium76


...along with stupid shits like this, why we are already under 24/7 surveillance, only to get worse in the future when nano sensors powered by infrared rectennas will enter your colons to make sure Big Brother really knows everything about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439726


While this maybe true. It has nothing to do with this Journal Publication. You are the stupid blind bullshit here my man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422888


I did not click the link because the important information is already in OP's text which seems plausible.

However, it seems strange that i cannot find the article to OP's text. Maybe OP has uncle intel
bible says FEAR NOT
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03/14/2019 06:21 PM
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I found an article related to this and it mentions Bolton's university being involved

[link to hackernews.blog (secure)]

An international team of researchers from the University of Michigan and Zhejiang described a new method of acoustic attack through third-party channels, which makes it possible to turn a hard disk drive (HDD) into a listening device.
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here is another article

Any vibration can alter the position of a hard driveSEEAMAZON_ET_135 See Amazon ET commerce, so a modern hard drive is sensitive enough to pick up even minute disturbances in the platter. Yes, even human speech shows up in the PES data. Of course, hard drives don’t broadcast PES readings for everyone to analyze.

In a proof of concept experiment, the team installed modified firmware on the drives that could record the PES measurements. Using that data, the researchers created high-quality recordings of human voices. In another test, the PES data was sufficient to reconstruct music playing near the hard drive. It was so accurate that the music ID app Shazam was able to identify the song.
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[link to www.extremetech.com (secure)]
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03/14/2019 06:27 PM
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Wont work with my wd black nvme m.2 sn750, lol
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03/14/2019 06:35 PM
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NO SHIT!
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here is another method discovered by Alfredo Ortega



unfortunately only the slides are in English while he speaks Spanish during his presentation

He seems to be working in a lot of related research like detecting CPU backdoors etc.
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03/14/2019 07:13 PM
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The article says nothing of the sort. Thanks for wasting 20 minutes of my time, while I searched the document with every key word you posted.
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Either you are an idiot or you did not read the link I posted.
I have another article on the subject

(Portuguese, if you do not understand this language use a translator)
[link to www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br (secure)]
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The Portuguese article is real, but it is wrong, and not based on the the english pdf. The english paper is mostly about errors that an attacker could cause in a computer system that have direct physical access to. However, it is a stupid situation because such an attacker can just put a hammer to the hard drive to cause errors as well.
I may be confused, but I am not an idiot.
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I got this new SSD that has a microphone and camera built in. It even has this feature that can store critical data for me indefinitely in a sector that gets marked as bad. It's like the Rolls-Royce of SSDs. Alexa said it's sexy.
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The article says nothing of the sort. Thanks for wasting 20 minutes of my time, while I searched the document with every key word you posted.
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Either you are an idiot or you did not read the link I posted.
I have another article on the subject

(Portuguese, if you do not understand this language use a translator)
[link to www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br (secure)]
 Quoting: marcomartim


The Portuguese article is real, but it is wrong, and not based on the the english pdf. The english paper is mostly about errors that an attacker could cause in a computer system that have direct physical access to. However, it is a stupid situation because such an attacker can just put a hammer to the hard drive to cause errors as well.
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No, the article is right. I linked 2 more articles related to Bolton's findings which describe how voice is extracted from the PES data of the harddisk after flashing it with specific firmware.

check a few posts above
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03/14/2019 08:53 PM
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bump
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Just my hard drive?

The whole PC has back doors. Your phone is listening. Your TV is listening. Your console. Microwave, fridge, all those smart techs. Smart meters, Alexa, tablets. Your bank cards. Your car. And that possibly just your stuff.

You go anywhere and there's all that plus more.

You can't get away...

Tupac-TN
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I just had to buy a new one today. It better not be bugged or doa poop
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IT : Information Technology

POC : Proof Of Concept


in IT we say a POC means the attack / vulnerability is not in general usage and therefore not a concern

we take a research POC and use that to mitigate or patch etc. against any future potential usage of the attack
General Failure Reading Drive A:
Who is General Failure?
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It's ok OP, bunch of dipshit dumbasses in this thread can't even comprehend the implications of this kind of security research.

I didn't either see anything about conversations not to say it's impossible,

Dumbasses,

Researchers already showed data transfer between two computers with temperature fluctuations alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77154896


Fuck you this has nothing to do with what the OP posted. The article is about weaponizing sound to damage computer systems. Nowhere in this publication does it even theorize being about to collect meaningful data from soundwaves hitting a HDD platter. GTFO
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You must be one of those dumbasses didn't you see I mentioned that in my comment fuck head.