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BREAKING! SENATE VOTES 59-41 TO BLOCK TRUMP BORDER EMERGENCY DECLARATION. TRUMP PROMISES VETO.

 
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So now we know who to focus on voting out!
 Quoting: AxX


You need to read the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76770412


Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
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you act like Trump is the only Pres to declare a national emergency
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I believe this is the first time a National Emergency has been Blocked.
 Quoting: In Yer Neck


oooo dam
 Quoting: KLOWN


Just from a quick search, I stand some what corrected. The last legal challenge to a presidential National Emergency was in 1952 against Truman. However, there seem to be no challenges since the passing of the 1976 National Emergencies Act.

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Face it, Trump just got a big kick in the ass from Congress and the American people. Nobody including congress wants trump to abuse the constitution like this.
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youreafag
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I believe this is the first time a National Emergency has been Blocked.
 Quoting: In Yer Neck


Go read the list of currently active national emergencies.

The globalists in our government can't have a president using the power to defend the homeland, only international interests.

Disgusting.
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You need to read the constitution.
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


It's never been used to go around Congress to fund a pet pork project.
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He's not going to veto it. Mark my words.
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You need to read the constitution.
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


CONGRESS declared it constitutional in 1976.

So, fuck off twatwaffle.
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And what happened in 1983 with the Supreme Court, genius?
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
 Quoting: [link to www.springfieldnewssun.com (secure)]

Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


It's never been used to go around Congress to fund a pet pork project.
 Quoting: NDFarm


I wouldn't call protecting our citizens from ILLEGAL invaders a pet pork project.

But then, I'm not a treasonous piece of shit either.
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Murkowski is done. Fake republican.
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You need to read the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76770412


Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


you act like Trump is the only Pres to declare a national emergency
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LOL.. Liberals just repeat talking points they do not have a clue what they are going on about.
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


you act like Trump is the only Pres to declare a national emergency
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LOL.. Liberals just repeat talking points they do not have a clue what they are going on about.
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i know right LOL
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You need to read the constitution.
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
 Quoting: [link to www.springfieldnewssun.com (secure)]

Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
 Quoting: [link to www.springfieldnewssun.com (secure)]

Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


It's never been used to go around Congress to fund a pet pork project.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Are you purposefully obtuse, or do you really believe what you type? I'm curious. You know, I don't care, I don't plan on having a real discussion with you since you've always came off as an inflammatory partisan, but when I read your posts, I have to wonder if dust would shoot out one ear if I blew in the other.

glpaward
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


tell ya somthing

how obammy got his obammy care implemented was one of the slimmiest dirty political shit show i have ever seen
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
 Quoting: AxX


The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
 Quoting: [link to www.springfieldnewssun.com (secure)]

Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


not to mention the genius master negotiator declined how many deals that included money for his wall?
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
hf
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The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


CONGRESS declared it constitutional in 1976.

So, fuck off twatwaffle.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


And what happened in 1983 with the Supreme Court, genius?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


SCOTUS struck down CONGRESSIONAL ability to veto a Presidential EO numbnuts....not the Presidents' right to declare one.
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The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
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Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
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in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
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tell ya somthing

how obammy got his obammy care implemented was one of the slimmiest dirty political shit show i have ever seen
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sure was, but he didn't circumvent congress to get it done

you people only WISH Trump was as slimy as Obama was when he got what he wanted
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Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


tell ya somthing

how obammy got his obammy care implemented was one of the slimmiest dirty political shit show i have ever seen
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sure was, but he didn't circumvent congress to get it done

you people only WISH Trump was as slimy as Obama was when he got what he wanted
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WTF you mean YOU PEOPLE

look at my flag buddy

i am Canadian and giving you a semi unbiased opinion
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You see, the anti-American Globalists control both sides but not Trump. How much more evidence do you need??
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“I’m going to be voting in favor of the resolution of disapproval,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, told reporters ahead of the vote. “This is a constitutional question, it’s a question of the balance of power that is core to our constitution.”

The other Republicans who voted to oppose the declaration were Sens. Mike Lee, R-Utah, Rob Portman, R-Ohio; Susan Collins, R-Maine; Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska; Mike Lee, R-Utah; Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rand Paul, R-Ky., Roger Wicker, R-Miss., Roy Blunt, D-Mo., Jerry Moran, R-Kansas, and Pat Toomey, R-Pa.

<snip>
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So now we know who to focus on voting out!
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You need to read the constitution.
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You need to study illegal immigration, massive drug trafficking and human trafficking that involves big money child prostitution, organ harvesting, blackmail and corruption.

We got an National Emergency.
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The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
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Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
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It's never been used to go around Congress to fund a pet pork project.
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Are you purposefully obtuse, or do you really believe what you type? I'm curious. You know, I don't care, I don't plan on having a real discussion with you since you've always came off as an inflammatory partisan, but when I read your posts, I have to wonder if dust would shoot out one ear if I blew in the other.

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Well prove me wrong then. When has a NE ever been used to go around Congress for funding?
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Trump is losing the GOP-held senate.

Yesterday, they blocked him giving more money to Saudi Arabia.
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In that case, they should. Why the hell should the corruptocrat Saudis get US government money?


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You see, the anti-American Globalists control both sides but not Trump. How much more evidence do you need??
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If Trump was "one of them," why would they run a massive, illegal FISA court surveillance on Trump, family, associates and campaign?

People can argue all they want about corporate media "reverse psychology," to help Trump. They can't argue against Spy gate and people committing crimes and treason to stop Trump from being elected.

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The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
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CONGRESS declared it constitutional in 1976.

So, fuck off twatwaffle.
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And what happened in 1983 with the Supreme Court, genius?
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SCOTUS struck down CONGRESSIONAL ability to veto a Presidential EO numbnuts....not the Presidents' right to declare one.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


what does his right to declare a national emergency have to do with SCOTUS stripping Congress of necessary balancing powers?

this whole arbitrary "national emergency" nonsense is absurd, and you'll agree it is too when a Democratic POTUS decides he needs some money to fight the national emergency that is climate change all because Trump has set the precedent of circumventing congress to get get money when you can't negotiate a deal, or accept any of the previous offers made.
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Senate Passes Bill to End Trump’s National Emergency with Less than Veto-Proof Majority

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Anyone who lives in an area FLOODED by illegals, MS-13 and thousands getting free housing, free food, free healthcare, free education knows that the flood of illegals needs to be stopped. Some leaders in this country are hell bent on punishing its citizens.

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Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

...

Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


It's never been used to go around Congress to fund a pet pork project.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Are you purposefully obtuse, or do you really believe what you type? I'm curious. You know, I don't care, I don't plan on having a real discussion with you since you've always came off as an inflammatory partisan, but when I read your posts, I have to wonder if dust would shoot out one ear if I blew in the other.

glpaward
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Well prove me wrong then. When has a NE ever been used to go around Congress for funding?
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You an expert on all NE used by previous presidents, or you just regurgitating CNN?

Its should be self evident a National Emergency gives the President to solve a crisis by commanding resources.

Let the courts decide if there is no National Emergency.

I sure and fuck don't want people with vested interests in illegal immigrants, drug cartels and human trafficking telling me there is no emergency.

BTW how many US politicians did Guzman say he was paying off for his Mexican cartel?
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Done.

I must have missed the part that said the security of the nation was NOT the President's responsibility.

Can you point out for me, Mr. Constitutionalist, where it says he has no jurisdiction over the safety and security of our country?

Thanks!
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The fact that a President can even declare a National Emergency is unconstitutional.

We have Congress for a fucking reason, not so that a president who can't get his way and doesn't know how to craft a deal to save his fucking life can just snap his fingers and get what he wants under a bullshit guise.

Clearly, you stupid motherfuckers don't realize that the next time a Democrat is POTUS, you can rest assured he's gonna pull the same shit on something you're not gonna like because Trump is setting the precedent here, and you're not gonna be able to say a fucking word about it without exposing yourself as a brainless hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


Oh, so nothing in the Constitution then?

How about your boy, Obama? Where were you when he declared national emergencies? Or did you not care then?

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic was never terminated or continued.
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018.
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018.
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018.
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012.
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015.
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018.
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018.
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018.
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018.
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018.
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
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Where was your outrage here??? Please, stop being so transparent.
 Quoting: AxX


in which of those did obama circumvent congress to get money for something he wanted?
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since when did it become illegal for a country to maintain their own borders?

2019 when the NWO communists made a gambit to take down the USA is when... otherwise for the entire history of the USA up to and including this time it was: legal, normal and unquestionable.
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CONGRESS declared it constitutional in 1976.

So, fuck off twatwaffle.
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And what happened in 1983 with the Supreme Court, genius?
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SCOTUS struck down CONGRESSIONAL ability to veto a Presidential EO numbnuts....not the Presidents' right to declare one.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


what does his right to declare a national emergency have to do with SCOTUS stripping Congress of necessary balancing powers?

this whole arbitrary "national emergency" nonsense is absurd, and you'll agree it is too when a Democratic POTUS decides he needs some money to fight the national emergency that is climate change all because Trump has set the precedent of circumventing congress to get get money when you can't negotiate a deal, or accept any of the previous offers made.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77086513


SCOTUS didn't strip balance of power from anyone.

They UPHELD it.

Please, unless you actually understand the subject you're attempting to explain, just shut up.

Demonrat distortion of facts is getting old.

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