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Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve

 
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Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
.......and pigs and cows and cats.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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..Rigid regulations, fixed breed standards, and the disproportionate significance attributed to typology dictated the development of these breeding methods; unfortunately, the remarkable plasticity of the canine genome facilitated the development of such morphologically diverse breeds (2–4,6,8,9,11,12). Today, many of the resultant dog breeds are no longer capable of performing the tasks for which they were originally bred, due to the anatomical and/or physiological deformations that kennel clubs have imposed upon them (3,13)...
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So -yeah- maybe if Darwin's Galapagos Finches with the different beaks that began to predominate during a period of drought could have been artificially isolated and not allowed to breed with the post-drought Finches whose beaks began again resembling their pre-drought ancestors' beaks, until that type beak again predominated-

-THEN Darwin's Galapagos Finches could also have been the proof of evolution it was hoped and theorized they would be and that you claim dog breeds are.
Of course, even then -if allowed- the finches could still interbreed, as indeed can all dog breeds, so still not species-ization.
And not survival of the FITTEST, exactly.

But does put one in mind of ongoing human 'eugenics' experimentation and implementation [like the college admissions tweaking recently revealed]
promoting survival [and rule] of the twittest, piggest, lyingest, and jerkest.

-Which might explain a lot.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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They are still dogs.....that did not change to something else.

Environmental evolution or man manipulated evolution is different than what you are saying.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Bullshit!tzu, every animal are of their own kind, dog breeds are proof of devolution.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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That's not evolution, that's the result of selective breeding.
Dogs giving birth to other dogs.

Unless you can get two dogs to give birth to a rat you've still got nothing!
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
micro evolution

changing from a red bird to a blue bird because it is sexually advantageous

or from a big dog to a small dog (humans make it sexually advantageous)



macro evolution

Changing from a dog into a pig

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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Yeppers, ….

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Yeppers, evolution.

You got it "ace".

Nope.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
dna transfer by enzymiosos.
the eating of young creatures due to starvation episodes.when something so young and full of really young cells is consumed by the predator,mutations of the predators offspring occurs.
theres genetic material everywhere,knowing what image you choose to create is as simple as paint!
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Proof that dogs evolve? I hope you're not making an analogy to apes turning into humans. If fish sprout wings or dogs grow gills and start to swim, come back and let me know. They have not transformed into a different species, they have force bred changes. Like if you you and your sister have a kid it will have mutations not an evolutionary cross into a new species.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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I’m no scientist but I believe that and evolution are two different things
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dna wont transfer through sex of two seperate species but dna transfer can happen through the path above.a wild pig is a good example.people say the flat snout comes from other wild hogs.no,it comes from eating fertilized turtle eggs.the pigs offspring get the dna.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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That's not my understanding. Breeding programs mate pairs with existing desired traits to strengthen the dominance of the existing genes for that trait, it doesn't create NEW genes.

Evolution must create significantly longer strands of NEW genetic code to be a viable model for the origin of the species. As far as I know, cellular biology hasn't found this process yet cells. Infact, they see the opposite, the cells are built to divide making EXACT copies of the DNA and when they don't it's typically cancer.

Until the process of how new DNA is created is shown at a micro-biological level, evolution as it's taught is just a model IMHO.

I don't know the answer but I think as we learn more about genetics, its going to make a lot of science second guess a 150 year old idea. Its likely that within a certain frame of reference it's an OK theory like Newtonian physics and as our frame of reference expands the theory should ADAPT too.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Foxes were used to study how dogs became domesticated. This is worth reading.

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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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Undeniable proof of evolution.


You are what Leftists have done to American education.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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Intelligent Design...
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Roaches have been a "stable" creature for millions of years.. no evolution there after countless millions of generations. Alligators are still what they were always since the time of the dinosaur..

variations may form over time thru selection, but stability is apparent generally.
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dna wont transfer through sex of two seperate species but dna transfer can happen through the path above.a wild pig is a good example.people say the flat snout comes from other wild hogs.no,it comes from eating fertilized turtle eggs.the pigs offspring get the dna.
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"dna transfer by enzymiosos"

This is the first time I've ever heard of horizontal gene transfer , unless maybe in this thread ? :

Thread: Women absorb and carry living DNA and cells from every male they have sexual intercouse with

So I'm sorry but this is all the rebuking/refuting {if it is that, or if I need to do that, both of which I'm unsure about, a.t.m.} I can do at the moment .--

Astract:
..It has been suggested that horizontal gene transfer (HGT) is the “essence of phylogeny.” In contrast, much data suggest that this is an exaggeration resulting in part from a reliance on inadequate methods to identify HGT events. In addition, the assumption that HGT is a ubiquitous influence throughout evolution is questionable. Instead, rampant global HGT is likely to have been relevant only to primitive genomes. In modern organisms we suggest that both the range and frequencies of HGT are constrained most often by selective barriers. As a consequence those HGT events that do occur most often have little influence on genome phylogeny....
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
dna wont transfer through sex of two seperate species but dna transfer can happen through the path above.a wild pig is a good example.people say the flat snout comes from other wild hogs.no,it comes from eating fertilized turtle eggs.the pigs offspring get the dna.
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"dna transfer by enzymiosos"

This is the first time I've ever heard of horizontal gene transfer , unless maybe in this thread ? :

Thread: Women absorb and carry living DNA and cells from every male they have sexual intercouse with

So I'm sorry but this is all the rebuking/refuting {if it is that, or if I need to do that, both of which I'm unsure about, a.t.m.} I can do at the moment .--

Astract:
..It has been suggested that horizontal gene transfer (HGT) is the “essence of phylogeny.” In contrast, much data suggest that this is an exaggeration resulting in part from a reliance on inadequate methods to identify HGT events. In addition, the assumption that HGT is a ubiquitous influence throughout evolution is questionable. Instead, rampant global HGT is likely to have been relevant only to primitive genomes. In modern organisms we suggest that both the range and frequencies of HGT are constrained most often by selective barriers. As a consequence those HGT events that do occur most often have little influence on genome phylogeny....
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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*Abstract, not "astract"
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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Undeniable proof of evolution.


You are what Leftists have done to American education.
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you and everyone else with reading comprehension problems
can't understand what the OP is saying

the OP is saying fuck you evo-tards
all specialized dog breeds are man made

that's the whole point of adding the one word

> "really"

to the OP

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Evotardism...
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Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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And some men resurrect apparent dead breeds.

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Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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No shit!

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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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that is diversity, not evolution... I think the term is "micro-evolution" if you like...

the fossil record is not just missing a link, but thousands of links... there are no linking fossils for any of the animal kinds... no whales becoming bears, as Darwin surmised...

then there is

yt: Prof. John Sanford on Genomic Entropy

Geneticists:
Dr. Crow: we are inferior to caveman.
Dr. Knodrashov: no human geneticist doubts man is degenerating.
Dr. Lynch Even assuming a lower mutation rate, we are degenerating at 1%-5% per generation.
Implies a young Creation and as with DNA complexity, theory of evolution is unlikely.

Average cell in 15 yr old - up to 6,000 mutations per cell. (all your cells are different)
Skin cell in 60 yr old - up to 40,000 mutations
Mutations primary cause of aging and death.
“...little potential for substantially increasing the upper limit of human life span.” (upper limit: 120 yrs)
--Michael Lynch (Population Geneticist)
50% reduction in sperm count in men.

Around 100 new mutations per generation.

Dr. Francis Collins, head of Human Genome Project, converted to Christ partly due to the data he found working in genetics.


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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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that is diversity, not evolution... I think the term is "micro-evolution" if you like...

the fossil record is not just missing a link, but thousands of links... there are no linking fossils for any of the animal kinds... no whales becoming bears, as Darwin surmised...

then there is

yt: Prof. John Sanford on Genomic Entropy

Geneticists:
Dr. Crow: we are inferior to caveman.
Dr. Knodrashov: no human geneticist doubts man is degenerating.
Dr. Lynch Even assuming a lower mutation rate, we are degenerating at 1%-5% per generation.
Implies a young Creation and as with DNA complexity, theory of evolution is unlikely.

Average cell in 15 yr old - up to 6,000 mutations per cell. (all your cells are different)
Skin cell in 60 yr old - up to 40,000 mutations
Mutations primary cause of aging and death.
“...little potential for substantially increasing the upper limit of human life span.” (upper limit: 120 yrs)
--Michael Lynch (Population Geneticist)
50% reduction in sperm count in men.

Around 100 new mutations per generation.

Dr. Francis Collins, head of Human Genome Project, converted to Christ partly due to the data he found working in genetics.


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even within kind there are limits...a dog can only be bred so big or so small...
"the word became flesh"
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
Undeniable proof really. Humans create custom breeds with new and designer traits all the time.
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I think you mean Devolve...
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
The Fossil Record - Dr. Kurt Wise

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we can devolve too.just take an embryo and hit it with high voltage.it will break the chains and create the older genetic version.yea i kinda got gods touch with the mother of nature you may say.hehe.

its all over at my friends website.i ran test with plants but also got some insight into animals too.its obvious how its all being done.
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Re: Dog breeds are proof that living creatures evolve
They don't "evolve" they are gimped. Crippled. Put a bulldog next to a wolf. One is a functional animal, one is a twisted sick dwarf.