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HUGE! Physicians group strongly opposes mandated vaccines

 
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The AAPS also believe that abortion causes breast cancer and being gay shortens life expectancy. They are not a respected institution, just a bunch of nutjobs
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Interesting choices of examples. I actually would not be surprised to learn that both are true.
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The AAPS also believe that abortion causes breast cancer and being gay shortens life expectancy. They are not a respected institution, just a bunch of nutjobs
 Quoting: The Amazing Panda


Interesting choices of examples. I actually would not be surprised to learn that both are true.
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There has been significant data regarding women who do not breastfeed getting breast cancer.

So abortion completely takes away that option.

Also noteworthy the affect on the heart chakra.

As for being "gay," I imagine it is pretty stressful in today's world. Stress is a #1 killer, constantly dumping harmful chemicals into your body with every thought.

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Doctors who work in the hospital (radiologists and pathologists) or rotate to see their patients now must take the flu vaccine. This was not the case just several years ago. I believe this has a lot to do with their public stand against mandatory vaccines along with watching their own children suffer from consequences of this toxic serum forced upon us. Healthy people can withstand contagion. It is those who are compromised who can die from exposure.

And by the way, as a professional transcriber/typist for majority of my adult life, I am here to say that cracking our knuckles will not end in arthritis. I am living proof - the fingers were crackly multiple times daily due to cramping and the small joints are fine, not knobby or disfigured at all.
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Doctors who work in the hospital (radiologists and pathologists) or rotate to see their patients now must take the flu vaccine. This was not the case just several years ago. I believe this has a lot to do with their public stand against mandatory vaccines along with watching their own children suffer from consequences of this toxic serum forced upon us. Healthy people can withstand contagion. It is those who are compromised who can die from exposure.

And by the way, as a professional transcriber/typist for majority of my adult life, I am here to say that cracking our knuckles will not end in arthritis. I am living proof - the fingers were crackly multiple times daily due to cramping and the small joints are fine, not knobby or disfigured at all.
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The fingers on both of my hands were “cracked” multiple times day...
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awesome, bout time !!! this dude grew up on military bases, chemical weapons but still relevant....out thru the night and the whispering breezes, to the place where they keep the imaginary diseases...

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The AAPS also believe that abortion causes breast cancer and being gay shortens life expectancy. They are not a respected institution, just a bunch of nutjobs
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That isn't nutty. It's the truth.
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The AAPS also believe that abortion causes breast cancer and being gay shortens life expectancy. They are not a respected institution, just a bunch of nutjobs
 Quoting: The Amazing Panda


Interesting choices of examples. I actually would not be surprised to learn that both are true.
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There has been significant data regarding women who do not breastfeed getting breast cancer.

So abortion completely takes away that option.

Also noteworthy the affect on the heart chakra.

As for being "gay," I imagine it is pretty stressful in today's world. Stress is a #1 killer, constantly dumping harmful chemicals into your body with every thought.

Peace.
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Right. The breast feeding issue is quite proven....So is stress.

I'd be interested to see a longevity comparison between gay males and heteros of the same demographic. Of course, there will always be people who live amazingly long and those who die terribly young.
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The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943.

It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of socialized medicine.

The group was reported to have about 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014.

The executive director is Jane Orient, an internist and a member of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. AAPS also publishes the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (formerly known as the Medical Sentinel).

The association is generally recognized as politically ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

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The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: Ideology trumps science-based medicine

The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPANDS) is the official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS).

The AAPS tries to represent itself as a legitimate medical professional society, but in reality it promotes antivaccine views, HIV/AIDS denialism, and an Ayn Randian view of the world in which doctors are supermen, Medicare is unconstitutional, and the government should never interfere with physicians’

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is a small group of physicians who, under a false authoritative name, advocate for far-right conservative values in the practice of medicine. While purporting to have high regard for the Hippocratic Oath, "the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship, and the "practice of private medicine",[1] it appears to treat these concepts as terms of art. Despite also calling itself "non-partisan", its main focus appears to be opposing abortion, vaccination, universal health care coverage and Obamacare in particular, and birth control.
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Well I'll be damned!! My son contracted Type 1 at 9 years old. He is now 22. He had every vaccination none to man. His Doctor was also my doctor when I was growing up. The doctor went to our same church and his oldest son was one of my best friends so I obviously trusted them and still do. However, now I thinking it was the damn drug companies all along...Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In a 2005 article published in the Journal, Madeleine Cosman argued that illegal immigrants were carriers of disease, and that immigrants and "anchor babies" were launching a "stealthy assault on [American] medicine."

In the article, Cosman claimed that "Suddenly, in the past 3 years America has more than 7,000 cases of leprosy" because of illegal aliens.

The journal's leprosy claim was cited and repeated by Lou Dobbs as evidence of the dangers of illegal immigration.

Publicly available statistics show that the 7,000 cases of leprosy occurred during the past 30 years, not the past three as Cosman claimed.

James L. Krahenbuhl, director of the U.S. government's leprosy program, stated that there had been no significant increase in leprosy cases, and that "It [leprosy] is not a public health problem—that’s the bottom line."

National Public Radio reported that the Journal article "had footnotes that did not readily support allegations linking a recent rise in leprosy rates to illegal immigrants."

The article's erroneous leprosy claim was pointed out by 60 Minutes, National Public Radio, and The New York Times but has not been corrected by the Journal.
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Re: HUGE! Physicians group strongly opposes mandated vaccines
Not Huge.
Not a legit medical organization.
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Re: HUGE! Physicians group strongly opposes mandated vaccines
Not Huge.
Not a legit medical organization.
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How is it not legit? That's THOUSANDS of physicians and surgeons who oppose mandated vaccines. THOUSANDS. These are people with qualifications who are in good standing.

That IS huge!


Let these people speak out! Let us fund legal defense associations who work to give parents choice!

Speak out, everyone. Speak out!
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Re: HUGE! Physicians group strongly opposes mandated vaccines
Not Huge.
Not a legit medical organization.
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How is it not legit? That's THOUSANDS of physicians and surgeons who oppose mandated vaccines. THOUSANDS. These are people with qualifications who are in good standing.

That IS huge!


Let these people speak out! Let us fund legal defense associations who work to give parents choice!

Speak out, everyone. Speak out!
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


It is between 1 and 100 "physicians"
Many of them are osteopaths which are not really doctors at all. No more than chiropractors are doctors.
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Not Huge.
Not a legit medical organization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002



How is it not legit? That's THOUSANDS of physicians and surgeons who oppose mandated vaccines. THOUSANDS. These are people with qualifications who are in good standing.

That IS huge!


Let these people speak out! Let us fund legal defense associations who work to give parents choice!

Speak out, everyone. Speak out!
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Speak freely. Please.
I have the right to criticize what you say and counter with facts.
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Re: HUGE! Physicians group strongly opposes mandated vaccines
Not Huge.
Not a legit medical organization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002



How is it not legit? That's THOUSANDS of physicians and surgeons who oppose mandated vaccines. THOUSANDS. These are people with qualifications who are in good standing.

That IS huge!


Let these people speak out! Let us fund legal defense associations who work to give parents choice!

Speak out, everyone. Speak out!
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Speak freely. Please.
I have the right to criticize what you say and counter with facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002




Fair enough. Start a thread and we can discuss. Don't hijack my thread with "facts" that are off topic.
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Agree. Especially seeing the players are mostly enemy of America, and caught in the past messing with bird flu, other toxins. Anything to do with WHO has to do with killing all Americans.
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I am uncomfortable with that as well.
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The CDC and drug companies are sinister. It’s well known that vaccinations cause lots of health problems. It’s projected that one out of every two boys born in the United States by 2032 will have autism! We won’t have enough men for a standing army!
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The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943.

It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of socialized medicine.

The group was reported to have about 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014.

The executive director is Jane Orient, an internist and a member of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. AAPS also publishes the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (formerly known as the Medical Sentinel).

The association is generally recognized as politically ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

The Tea Party’s Favorite Doctors
They’re not just against health care reform. They think Obama may have hypnotized voters and that climate legislation threatens your health.


Fringe Kook Organization

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: Ideology trumps science-based medicine

The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPANDS) is the official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS).

The AAPS tries to represent itself as a legitimate medical professional society, but in reality it promotes antivaccine views, HIV/AIDS denialism, and an Ayn Randian view of the world in which doctors are supermen, Medicare is unconstitutional, and the government should never interfere with physicians’

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is a small group of physicians who, under a false authoritative name, advocate for far-right conservative values in the practice of medicine. While purporting to have high regard for the Hippocratic Oath, "the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship, and the "practice of private medicine",[1] it appears to treat these concepts as terms of art. Despite also calling itself "non-partisan", its main focus appears to be opposing abortion, vaccination, universal health care coverage and Obamacare in particular, and birth control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002


How does a GLP'er find a doc like this?
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In a 2005 article published in the Journal, Madeleine Cosman argued that illegal immigrants were carriers of disease, and that immigrants and "anchor babies" were launching a "stealthy assault on [American] medicine."

In the article, Cosman claimed that "Suddenly, in the past 3 years America has more than 7,000 cases of leprosy" because of illegal aliens.

The journal's leprosy claim was cited and repeated by Lou Dobbs as evidence of the dangers of illegal immigration.

Publicly available statistics show that the 7,000 cases of leprosy occurred during the past 30 years, not the past three as Cosman claimed.

James L. Krahenbuhl, director of the U.S. government's leprosy program, stated that there had been no significant increase in leprosy cases, and that "It [leprosy] is not a public health problem—that’s the bottom line."

National Public Radio reported that the Journal article "had footnotes that did not readily support allegations linking a recent rise in leprosy rates to illegal immigrants."

The article's erroneous leprosy claim was pointed out by 60 Minutes, National Public Radio, and The New York Times but has not been corrected by the Journal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76460002


Why did we stop having a place like "Ellis Island"? where immigrants were stopped and cured before they were set out on the public?
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