Jesus, born of Mary did not have inherited sin. Does that mean the sin 'gene' descends from Adam through fathers?

yup!!! pauly had all kinds of insight!!!

Perhaps the root of sin is in the sexual act of conception? Just a thought that doesn't cast blame on adam or eve.

How much more twists and turns are you going to make around your own basic reasoning and logic to not have to give up on your jeebus delusion? You're asking questions about the genetics of a fictional cult leader that lived in a backwards goat-fucker province 2 milennia ago ... Born from a virgin, son of a god, walks on water, heals the blind lepers, blows air up a clay figurine's ass and turns it into a flying bird, survives for 40 days in a searing hot desert ... Ho-Lee-Shit.


How does this possibly relate to your fucking life here and now in any sort of way?


Holy fuckballs ... When are you finally going to "see the light", no pun intended?

We live in a fallen world. Just being in this world will cause us to sin. I do not think any child born is with sin. They are born into a world of sin but are free from sin until they can do a sinful act. Sin is assigned to a individual though an act of sin. You can not inherit sin from another.

John the Baptist also was born without inherited sin, though he was a sinner. The word "sin" In many instances can also be replaced with "demons" and it makes perfect sense. So in one sense John the Baptist was born with sin (that is a criminal record against God for when he rebelled in heaven against God Jesus with the rest of us). On the other hand he was born with the Holy Spirit so he did not inherit the sins, or demons, of his relatives, which is also known as inherited sin.

If everyone is born with sin (criminal record), which is true, that cannot be inherited. A criminal record cannot be inherited. Therefore the implication of inherited sin can only refer to demons.

Jesus was born without sin in a twofold matter. Being God he cannot commit a crime against himself, has done no wrong. And he was not born with demons. He was born directly from heaven whereas we were born from hell.

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Sin, means falling short of God sexpectations

No it doesn't.

There's no differnce between you as a baby and Jesus as a baby. You didn't inherit a failing of God's expectation at your birth. He expected you and You arrived, so in fact you fulfilled his expectation at your birth. And sinxe he is never surprised or caught of guard because he knows every thing, every time you did wrong he was expecting it.

As a baby You don't even have a chance to do or fail at what God Jesus requires.

Sin in its most literal meaning is "crime against God".

But "sin" ["without", in Spanish] just means "imperfection" or "falling short of the mark" , which can be even just physically. And I'll bet you agree we all can -and have- inherited imperfections.

Jesus was God incarnate as a baby.

I wasn't.

I think that is a pretty big difference.

Jesus was around before Adam.

Colossians 1:14-15
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature

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You have a lot of anger.

But doesn't that 'cast the blame' on God, since he told them to "be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it", before they sinned?

And then immediately afterward they were both ashamed of their bodies, and Adam tried to tell God, "It was that woman you gave to be with me!"

This is ,I guess, the first result -a lasting, one, at that-of their promised "Knowing good and evil" for themselves and 'not needing God anymore'.

What freedom! (sarcasm)

You're wrong.

1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Whede is the seat of the Holy Spirit? In the heart. If the Holy Spirit is not there what then is there? Unholy spirits. So the inherited sin is demons, all babies have demons unless they're prayed over, and when they die the soul returns to hell. But if they are of a Christian household they are accepted as belonging to the Lord if they are consecrated into the Lord. Othersise they perish.

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I didn't say it was only physical.

And about David-

But Jehovah said to Samuel: “Do not pay attention to his appearance and how tall he is, for I have rejected him.

For the way man sees is not the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart.”+
8 Then Jesse called Abinadab and had him pass before Samuel, but he said: “Jehovah has not chosen this one either.”
9 Next Jesse presented Shammah, but he said: “Jehovah has not chosen this one either.”
10 So Jesse had seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but Samuel said to Jesse: “Jehovah has not chosen any of these.”

11 Finally Samuel said to Jesse: “Are these all of your boys?” To this he said: “The youngest has been left out until now; he is pasturing the sheep.” Then Samuel said to Jesse: “Send for him, because we will not sit down for the meal until he comes here.”

12 So he sent for him and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, with beautiful eyes, and handsome in appearance. Then Jehovah said: “Get up, anoint him, for this is the one!”

13 So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers. And the spirit of Jehovah began to empower David from that day forward.
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And David was a wonderful person. But he still did that Bathsheba thing , which ended up being horrific in its consequences -that are still happening today.
The thing that stands out about David for me is what a loyal son he was , killing a lion threatening his fathers sheep, and Goliath for daring to "taunt the battle lines of Israel!"
Jesus is heroic in his loyalty to his father and his father's sheep, too.

The gene is passed through the father of the mother..

Or that was the case before we were placed in this digital shithole.

Hope that clarifies it a bit.

Yes, the sins of the FATHERS are visited on the children to the 3rd and 4th generations. So that's why Mary had to be a Virgin and there could be no earthly father. God Himself had to be the father.

Mary was used as a vessel because she found favor among God.

God's seed bloomed Christ.

Mary was not without sin.

Mary was a divine egg perfectly suitable to hatch the Lord.

doesn't matter being born of the water/blood of Christ is what matters.

Sin is not a gene

They knew it was a record of wrongs and they knew demons were in sinners.

Sin is a byproduct of free will.


If you don't have free will you cannot make bad choices without being programmed to do so during certain events like computer programming.


I'm kind of curious where God's thinking is with this, because if we do have free will, it leads us open to sin and sin leads to destruction based on choices that free will liberates to.

God didn't want robots, but not being a robot leads to hell.

It makes no sense to me sometimes.

Not only that, you have the demons in other dimensions trolling you non-stop to do evil.


It's confusing to say the least.

If eve never ate the forbidden fruit and then tempted adam to eat, we wouldn't be in this mess, but on the other side of things, we probably wouldn't even be alive, Adam and Eve would still be living in the garden, and God would be keeping tabs off doing other projects.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not sure you can say Eve tempted Adam.

“But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn, sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death.”—Jas. 1:14, 15

“I have called out but you keep refusing, . . . and you keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof you have not accepted.”—Prov 1:24, 25.


REBELLION was the first act of sin, in heaven and in earth. It resulted in the adverse judgment to those who followed a rebellious course.

Now, because the first rebel is making his final stand against God and His loyal servants, using diverse and subtle means, it behooves all to scrutinize carefully thoughts, motives, conduct and every form of behavior, so as to be on guard.

Is Original Sin (Sin Nature) Passed through the Father’s Genetic Line?

Basis: Jesus was sinless (Hebrews 4:15, 1 John 3:5). Jesus was a descendant of Adam as per Luke 3 (in His humanity). Descendants of Adam receive original sin because they were in Adam when Adam sinned (Romans 5:12). So how did Jesus avoid having original sin?

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Because he is the seed of God.

Where does a farmer plant his seeds to grow?

In good soil.


Like I said, Mary was blessed.

She was a good place to plant the seed of the Lord.

It means it's all BS anyway, who freaking cares?

If they keep this Bible shit up I will start telling the true conception stories..

And I'm not sure the general public is quite ready to hear a few cough cough of them cough.

Adam did not transgress, op... Eve, (who is us) was the transgressor. Adam simply paid the price to free her (us) from the transgression...

praise His name.

peace,

Adam not decieved just as Eve was.

Had Adam turned his head and told Eve no and did not eat.


I don't know what would have happened.

But I do believe that women are more easily deceived than men are and the elite who control this world use this to their advantage.

Adam loved Eve and trusted her, had Lucifer asked Adam to eat, he would have told him to kick rocks, Lucifer knew this, so he conned a plan to have eve eat first because he knew Adam trusted eve.



Women will always be better at manipulating because they received the knowledge to do so first, Men were created first so have better logical skills than Women.

Ying and Yang is simply Men and Women together, but at different time lines.

Both have an advantage and both are lagging behind a little.

This is where teamwork comes into play, both have to make a conscious decision to ignore each others fault and work together to become one and be balanced.

Adam and Eve were like children in adult bodies.




God sent us our savior.

end of story for the human race.

Become one as a human species or fade away into oblivion.

The dark rulers of this world are simply the middle-men that nobody can see pulling the strings.