Survey: CDC Guideline Having ‘Horrendous’ Impact on Pain Patients

Junkies will ALWAYS find a way to get their FIX, but why should people living a life of insufferable pain have to be punished for it?

Happy to see that some of you have found kratom, this is a horrific situation to be in. I have multiple conditions that cause constant pain, and was in opiate pain management for about 5 years. Model patient, never took more than prescribed. When my neurologist retired and the Dr who took over his practice installed a policeman in his lobby, and the pharmacies started treating me like a junkie, I started looking for a way out of the opiate prison.

Back then Kratom was fairly unknown by all but a few, but I researched it and felt safe with trying it instead. I was terrified of withdrawal, but to my surprise it was really nothing with kratom, AND, the kratom worked better for my pain and energy, and it didn't have the crappy opiate side effects. That was 7 years ago, and I have never looked back. Please, anyone who is in chronic pain and in this situation give it a try. It takes a little trial and error to find the best dose for your situation, but once you do, you're good. Fuck the CDC, the FDA and the DEA, they are killing this country.

Happy to see that some of you have found kratom, this is a horrific situation to be in. I have multiple conditions that cause constant pain, and was in opiate pain management for about 5 years. Model patient, never took more than prescribed. When my neurologist retired and the Dr who took over his practice installed a policeman in his lobby, and the pharmacies started treating me like a junkie, I started looking for a way out of the opiate prison.

Back then Kratom was fairly unknown by all but a few, but I researched it and felt safe with trying it instead. I was terrified of withdrawal, but to my surprise it was really nothing with kratom, AND, the kratom worked better for my pain and energy, and it didn't have the crappy opiate side effects. That was 7 years ago, and I have never looked back. Please, anyone who is in chronic pain and in this situation give it a try. It takes a little trial and error to find the best dose for your situation, but once you do, you're good. Fuck the CDC, the FDA and the DEA, they are killing this country.

KRATOM, local Vape Shops , works great

If I were a pain patient, my daily stack would be:

-Kratom
-CBD
-Curcumin


But people should be able to choose opiates if they want them. In fact, people should be allowed to grow poppies in their back yard so they can make their own poppy tea, forgoing the big pharma pills.

How about legalizing medical poppy for personal use?

Medicinal poppies.

Must be a way to grow poppies and do the cutting yourself. Seeds easy to come by.

In fact, here is a farm that will provide the seed online:

[link to ravensongseeds.com]

agree, but how does know if the kratom suppluer is good and legit? any companies you would recommend? AFAIK all sales are on-line.

To all with chronic back pain:

What worked for me (and I understand it won't work for everyone)

Upgrade bed mattress to firm with pocket coils. Avoid the memory foam crap, doesn't provide support.

Upgrade pillow, make one a firm gel and the other a goose down, so you have options for those restless 'bad' nights.
Also have a 'between the knees pillow'

Train yourself to be a side sleeper. Keep at it. You want a position where you find a happy medium between straight spine and comfort.

Dry sauna and pool EVERY day. Part of your DAILY routine.

I start with the hot tub, get those jets right where they need to be, either side of the base of the spine, then center, then upper and back of shoulders, neck. Then turn sideways and get both your hips and the backside of your thighs (lots of tension buildup in the thighs)

Next, a couple slow easy laps in the cold pool.

Then into the dry sauna, go to the hottest area of the sauna and put your back up against those blissfully hot cedar boards, oh sweet relief I swear some days I can actually feel my over extended spine clicking back into place.

Then back to cold pool for laps and a 2nd shot in sauna, good to go.

Make sure to get 8 hours of sleep a day. Do whatever it takes.

Once that routine is set, don't let ANYTHING mess with your routine.

I don't do pain meds, doc can shove it up his ass for all I care.

Uh....? There is no 2,700.00 prescription, even the cartel is cheaper...


But don't get too happy....this is leading the cows up to thier new drugs they want to sell. The cdc doesn't care sh*t about people except how they can milk and dispose of them

I did this - got a firm mattress, side sleeping, it helps. Also physical therapy exercises to strengthen my back and core. Spring and summer are the worst time of year for me - I do a lot of physical labor on my little homestead (hauling dirt, bending, weeding, taking care of the chickens, yard work, etc). When my back flares up, it hurts, sometimes for weeks and I resort to motrin, epsom salt baths, resting it, walking it out, etc, etc, etc. Basically I'm very limited in what I can do and I ride the pain out.

Over the years I've found doing certain things work for me and gets me through it without pain meds. I won't even step foot in a doctor's office if I can help it - don't want to be their cash cow or guinea pig.

The whole opiate epidemic was carefully plotted. Population control at its finest.

They sell codeine over the counter here (UK) and always have. No ID or prescription needed. American visitors are always surprised they can just walk in to any pharmacy and walk out with it.

vicodin will destroy the liver and kidneys over time

that is what they told my dad before they took him off Vicodin and got him addicted to oxycontin

that was nearly 20 years ago

he is a 100% disabled vet

now, we have endless troubles filling the prescriptions

the rules change each month, the insurance changes their rules each month

the script is $2700 on the months that the insurance won't pay

but what can you do when they have them addicted like heroin?

(yes, we are trying to get him into rehab at 75)

Control the health system, and you control the Ovens.

Happy to see that some of you have found kratom, this is a horrific situation to be in. I have multiple conditions that cause constant pain, and was in opiate pain management for about 5 years. Model patient, never took more than prescribed. When my neurologist retired and the Dr who took over his practice installed a policeman in his lobby, and the pharmacies started treating me like a junkie, I started looking for a way out of the opiate prison.

Back then Kratom was fairly unknown by all but a few, but I researched it and felt safe with trying it instead. I was terrified of withdrawal, but to my surprise it was really nothing with kratom, AND, the kratom worked better for my pain and energy, and it didn't have the crappy opiate side effects. That was 7 years ago, and I have never looked back. Please, anyone who is in chronic pain and in this situation give it a try. It takes a little trial and error to find the best dose for your situation, but once you do, you're good. Fuck the CDC, the FDA and the DEA, they are killing this country.

Uh....? There is no 2,700.00 prescription, even the cartel is cheaper...


But don't get too happy....this is leading the cows up to thier new drugs they want to sell. The cdc doesn't care sh*t about people except how they can milk and dispose of them

I have to say that when pain patients insist in using the most extreme of superlatives

'horrendous '
'excruciating '
'unbearable '


I actually feel less sympathy for them as I feel their language so wrapped up in their entitlement to not work get sympathy
gain benefits
opt out of providing for themselves in so many ways


that its hard to tell if they have such terrible pain or just so invested in identifying themselves as

'the worst off '


cue the barrage of insults for even suggesting that some use chronic pain as an excuse to infantilise themselves

This kind of shit enrages me. We had to beg for pain medication from insurance companies just before my wife died after spending 6 months at pain clinics in run down neighborhoods.

Once you stop paying in, they want you dead.