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The Smartest Thing the Vaccine Concerned Have Done Recently (or maybe ever)

 
Elegant Walnut
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March 21, 2019
Richard Jaffe

But first, the dumbest thing the VC do, IMO. I have been very critical of both the tactics and strategic decisions made by the Vaccine Concerned powers-that-be. For example, although I understand the emotions behind them, I think all the lawsuits challenging SB 277 were a waste of time and money.

No court is going to create a constitutional right to a personal belief exemption, or stop mandatory vaccination under the current medical vaccine paradigm. (You all know and hate the paradigm/mantra: vaccines are safe and effective, serious side effects are rare, herd immunity is a thing and vital, and vaccines have saved zillions of lives.)

I think the VC community has it backwards by looking to the judiciary for protection. The judiciary basically enforces medical norms/paradigms, at least when it comes to public health and safety. Judges do not create rights that jeopardize public health according to the accepted state of medical knowledge...


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What if all the data was made public and you could look up a pediatrician’s autism and autoimmune disease rate?

We are a society of consumers and consumers are entitled to as much information as possible to make an informed decision about their health care professionals. Why shouldn’t such information become a standard part of shopping for a pediatrician?



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Transparency is always better and for medical costs and outcomes, it's a requirement.

They have all the data. Let consumers see it and vote with their pocketbooks the way they do with any other purchase.
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Transparency is always better and for medical costs and outcomes, it's a requirement.

They have all the data. Let consumers see it and vote with their pocketbooks the way they do with any other purchase.
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one could only wish. . . .

liberals will never let us think for ourselves....
you didn't write that post, someone else did it for you!
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From the article:


So far, (Paul Thomas) focused on the rates of autism in his pediatric practice. He’s a popular guy and reports seeing 3345 pediatric patients.

Here are the numbers:

CDC published autism rates: 1 in 45

Autism rate in his signature “Vaccine Friendly Schedule 1 in 440

Autism rate in his complete unvaccinated patients (actual numbers, not rate) 1 in 715


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I do not see measles as a problem, you get it, feel a little bad, stay in, check for fever, make sure they do not get chilled, and in a few days it gone. I know this is the way it goes. It was always done when I was a child. The immunity for this goes to the next generation, which is better than any dead vaccine virus given. Bodies do not reach to dead viruses, the ingredient they sure do.


If a child stayed out of school with a fever, and broke out, it over soon. I doubt the parent would even bother with a doctor visit.

If you can explain how a immunity to a dead virus works, put it here I want to know.

You know they quit using live viruses after they gave the live polio vaccine to the children, they came down with polio. After that the dead virus was used.

Some shot maybe needed, it would be rare to really need them for common illness that we had a children. I had all of them just as most of the children I knew. Most are over quickly, and some have discomfort, Chicken pox is one that is discomforting, those out break itch bad, thought oatmeal paste work wonders. You can take something for the fever.

I would say small pox would be something to watch out for.

Most of the worse things are not because of viruses, it Bactria from water, and things that that. Take the streets of Los Angeles where there are a lot of homeless, drug and unsanitary living cause diseases to break out, and it not viral.

Most of the childhood viruses do not hurt the majority of children, and the vaccines cause a lot of problems. The only ones I know who died or had bad problems from them, one dead the other had a very bad fever and bleed out of his eyes and ears. One girl, one boy, the girl died, the boy did not, they both had the flu with the childhood virus. Which is rare.

Polio was the worse virus, and it was waning when they started the vaccines.

You would think they would have worked on making a vaccine for the worse virus that came around, the 1918 flu which kill millions. I do not really believe it was a flu virus.
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This really makes me want to throw up! No baby needs a HebB shot of 250 milligrams of Illuminum.
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so he admits right off the bat that the Media is lying to us
and they are using it to push through legislation

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pin4 excellent video
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A doctor right in your face 100% telling you that vaccines can cause autism

and has the case studies with thousands of cases to back it up

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You know, just a few days ago on GLP I said we need a legal defense association somewhat like the HSLDA. Something with $$$$ and teeth.

And then, low and behold I stumble across this guy's blog. This guy might be THE ONE, along with RFK Jr., who can start some real legal ACTION.


Check out his CV:

Richard Jaffe is a health care litigator, counselor and crisis manager, focusing on cutting-edge medical/legal issues.

He represents practitioners, clinics, companies and health related organizations in complex health care regulatory matters throughout the United States, especially legal cases and investigations brought by federal and state government agencies. He has extensive experience in FDA matters, including stem cells, clinical trials and new drug issues, Medicare and insurance fraud, professional licensure and criminal and civil scheduled drug prescribing problems.

He has also filed federal civil rights, RICO and similar actions for health care practitioners and organizations against insurance companies and state officials, and has obtained precedent setting decisions.

He has also helped organize and testified at several Congressional Hearings on various issues related to patients’ rights and access to experimental medicine, and has appeared on national media shows, such as Nightline, Dateline, Good Morning America, 48 Hours.

He is a graduate of Columbia Law School, where he was a member of the Columbia Law Review and a Stone Scholar.



[link to rickjaffeesq.com]






Folks, we need people like him! I'm Canadian but if I were a U.S. citizen I'd be compelling this guy to head up at team. Give them $$$$ and see what they can do!

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Best video I have ever seen on vaccines

should be pinned for a year
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This really makes me want to throw up! No baby needs a HebB shot of 250 milligrams of Illuminum.
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lol "Illuminum", nice word play.
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This really makes me want to throw up! No baby needs a HebB shot of 250 milligrams of Illuminum.
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lol "Illuminum", nice word play.
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Spread them out all you like.

People, especially Children will continue to suffer and pay with their Lives.

But, it’ll delay any justice as the vaccine manufacturers are quickly cleaning up their toxic jabs so they will never be held accountable.

Still, these acts of violence will always cause disease but it won’t be so obvious, much like SV40 cancer virus years later.

Now is the time, stay the course.

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What if all the data was made public and you could look up a pediatrician’s autism and autoimmune disease rate?

We are a society of consumers and consumers are entitled to as much information as possible to make an informed decision about their health care professionals. Why shouldn’t such information become a standard part of shopping for a pediatrician?

 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


blinkerrose I agree with you, but somehow I don't think it will happen. This society has to come to an end.
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Just forge the fucking document saying your child has been immunized.
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I think we should steal the term vaccine concerned and use it instead of antivaxxer.
We are concerned with the safety of vaccines. This doesn't say we are against the WHOLE idea of vaccines.
I view vaccines the same as GMOs, the technology COULD be beneficial but that is not how they are being used now. We COULD genetically modify plants that produce fruit that provides complete nutrition AND grows well in most conditions. We don't.
(Nature already has)
We could create vaccines that ARE safe and DO protect people from illness.

I'm not against the WHOLE idea.
I'm opposed to the fact that they are not being used to help people and the actual intention is to harm.

When you think about both topics you will see that they are 2 parts of the same program. It's to weaken you from both sides.
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I don't know where else to put this but why is the pro-vax crowd so disgusting about this argument?

Some quotes I've seen.

"I hope your fucking kids get ____ disease and die"
"Fuck off and die"-extremely common
Mothers telling people to "suck my dick/clit" ...and die. (From the diseases YOU carry?)
They never have any validating info that shows vaccines are helpful. (It doesn't exist)
They only have hate and insults. (No argument)
They are disgusting about it and have proven there is no actual compassion involved in their stance.

(Is it because they are generally liberal?)

The "debate" is really being pushed now.
You already know the truth.
Latin translations:
Individual=singular
Pray=tandem (as one)
Am=sum (of matter and spirit)
Soul=anima (animated by)
God=Dei
If you understand and BELIEVE these meanings you will have-
Faith=fides
ConFIDEnce (faith in self and others)

sun=sol. light=lux
Heart=cor
inspired=(in)spiritus
Gold=aurum. Crown=Corona
Heaven=AURAe

Jon 3:14
We know that we have passed from death to life because we love each other.
Those who do not love shall remain in death.
Dark to Light.
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Best video I have ever seen on vaccines

should be pinned for a year
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What if all the data was made public and you could look up a pediatrician’s autism and autoimmune disease rate?

We are a society of consumers and consumers are entitled to as much information as possible to make an informed decision about their health care professionals. Why shouldn’t such information become a standard part of shopping for a pediatrician?

 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


blinkerrose I agree with you, but somehow I don't think it will happen. This society has to come to an end.
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This was a quote from Jaffee's blog article, but I understand your position. I too yearn for the time when there is complete restoration of the earth...
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Best video I have ever seen on vaccines

should be pinned for a year
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Thank you, Jake.
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Spread them out all you like.

People, especially Children will continue to suffer and pay with their Lives.

But, it’ll delay any justice as the vaccine manufacturers are quickly cleaning up their toxic jabs so they will never be held accountable.

Still, these acts of violence will always cause disease but it won’t be so obvious, much like SV40 cancer virus years later.

Now is the time, stay the course.

Stop Big pHARMa

We can do better, we can create a HEALthcare system that works for People. Is respectful, kind, truly healing. And, not for profit but for the betterment of Humankind.
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Exactly, just because spreading them out greatly reduces the number of immediate and obvious autism cases does not mean they aren't doing permanent damage. We can't even get an honest scientific look at the autism causes so how will we ever know if vaccines are contributing to future autoimmune problems, Alzheimer's, cancers, etc.
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