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How is Child Support still allowed?

 
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Seriously? The enemy?

How about this...if you don't want a child or the responsibility of it, you take precautions instead of blaming someone else for what YOU DID.

Simple.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


I'm simply educating, the uneducated. I don't abandon my children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69758479


That's not educating. That's blaming entities that had nothing to do with the life you created.

Get real.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


The legal system is a system of commerce. The created system allocates everything and everyone as property, and specifically targets children to make absolutely sure they are abandoned.

The entities (self declared, because there is no law, which is why it will never add up for people subjected to the system) block life from the land and natural resources and the necessities of life, through this system oc the rule of law (force and fraud) and an executed system of commerce, so yes, all created life within the scope of the created system is their responsibility.

The only reason the family law system was created, was because the "communities" did not want to care for and protect children, they wanted to make absolutely sure, they could abandon them.
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! This is gobbledygook and nonsensical! OMG!
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I did not mean to get into an argument with someone who does not get it.

Men and women, please stop going to war against each other.

The enemy is the system itself. The enemy is the "community". The enemy is the legal system because it is force and fraud. The enemy for sure, are the corporations and businesses and property owners (greed) and the worst is the military.
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None of you see the big picture. The government, corporations and businesses, and the military, go after men to force them to be fathers (and women I suppose, to force them to be mothers), because for them to have to care for children within the scope of the system, cuts into their profits.

The enemy is the (government, corporations and businesses, and military) because this is their created system.
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No, it cuts into the TAXPAYERS pocket!! We did not create your child and neither did the government. PAY FOR THE CHILD!! Are you 2?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get em' girl....
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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I did not mean to get into an argument with someone who does not get it.

Men and women, please stop going to war against each other.

The enemy is the system itself. The enemy is the "community". The enemy is the legal system because it is force and fraud. The enemy for sure, are the corporations and businesses and property owners (greed) and the worst is the military.
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Why complicate this? It's not that deep.

It's between man and woman who have sex. A child is produced. How is it anyone's fault, including the "community" ?

She pays and so does he. Those two produced, those two invest the time and money.

How did you get so deep and point fingers at more than those two?
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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None of you see the big picture. The government, corporations and businesses, and the military, go after men to force them to be fathers (and women I suppose, to force them to be mothers), because for them to have to care for children within the scope of the system, cuts into their profits.

The enemy is the (government, corporations and businesses, and military) because this is their created system.
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No, it cuts into the TAXPAYERS pocket!! We did not create your child and neither did the government. PAY FOR THE CHILD!! Are you 2?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get em' girl....
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


You are an idiot...you do realize the greatest tax payer expense is the military, that works for the corporations and businesses don't you? You want to be free fro taxation, but you are an evil idiot who goes after a population that has nothing and is victimized by everyone, all so you can be a greedy ignorant bitch, but I don't see you going after the military, because you don't want to pay taxes.
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It's funny.. Mr. IP changer can't figure out how I know it's him. Too stupid on that front as well.
Lol, Morans like that need to keep their dick safe with Rosey Palmer.

Seriously, if they think all women are like that, what the hell are they dipping their wick for?

Complete ignorance and should not breed.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again




Good Lord, I guess so. Complete ignorance and should not breed is soooooo very right! I still say report the 'person' who threatened you. I am done with this thread. You can private message me if you want. I tried to educate but it can't be done to these degenerates. I can imagine what they were like in school. Like I said, may God damn them for not caring about their own children, as I am SURE will happen. You can't get any lower than this. I am just so glad my life is good and peaceful, but I fear so much for the children of these 'parents' here.
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This was for the men..go after the system. Don't go after the other person or the child.

It's such a corrupt system that picks largely on young people. The taxation argument is bullshit.
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It's funny.. Mr. IP changer can't figure out how I know it's him. Too stupid on that front as well.
Lol, Morans like that need to keep their dick safe with Rosey Palmer.

Seriously, if they think all women are like that, what the hell are they dipping their wick for?

Complete ignorance and should not breed.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again




Good Lord, I guess so. Complete ignorance and should not breed is soooooo very right! I still say report the 'person' who threatened you. I am done with this thread. You can private message me if you want. I tried to educate but it can't be done to these degenerates. I can imagine what they were like in school. Like I said, may God damn them for not caring about their own children, as I am SURE will happen. You can't get any lower than this. I am just so glad my life is good and peaceful, but I fear so much for the children of these 'parents' here.
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I already di PM you. Don't let this mess ruffle you're feathers. Lol, these boys obviously have a wake up call coming.
They won't "educate" me on their nonsense.
I lived it. If they don't want to pay child support to the "whores and prostitutes" don't have sex with them. Lol. Pretty simple.

But, stupid is stupid, no matter how you spin it.
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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This was for the men..go after the system. Don't go after the other person or the child.

It's such a corrupt system that picks largely on young people. The taxation argument is bullshit.
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Because maybe it's young people that have children out of wedlock????

Einstein.
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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Furthermore, taxation is a neccessity because all the money is given away as private property and all the land and natural resources are given away as private property, and those private property owners refuse to let anybody have any of it.
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Why blow in a bitch when you can blow on her face?
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Um not busting in her guts is the greatest
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This was for the men..go after the system. Don't go after the other person or the child.

It's such a corrupt system that picks largely on young people. The taxation argument is bullshit.
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Because maybe it's young people that have children out of wedlock????

Einstein.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


Yes, we know, your god told you to hate children and forcefully abandon them. That god gave you all kinds of reasoning and justification for it, however there is no god, and it has all been to facilitate a system of greed. It's called a con-job.

I doubt you will ever get it, you just don't understand.
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Don't be a white cuck. Just leave the bitch and little monster child. Never look back, it's not your problem, that kid doesn't need you, don't swallow the guilt trip.

Black men have always known that children are a drag on their lives and leave as soon as the ho gets knocked up, just ask Colin Kaepernick, his daddy didn't give a shit about him and still doesn't. His daddy is out having fun ballin new ho's and could care less about his mistake baby.

Those mistake babies will do fine without you, don't let the little leeches suck your wallet dry, just leave them and never look back.
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This was for the men..go after the system. Don't go after the other person or the child.

It's such a corrupt system that picks largely on young people. The taxation argument is bullshit.
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Because maybe it's young people that have children out of wedlock????

Einstein.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


Yes, we know, your god told you to hate children and forcefully abandon them. That god gave you all kinds of reasoning and justification for it, however there is no god, and it has all been to facilitate a system of greed. It's called a con-job.

I doubt you will ever get it, you just don't understand.
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No, you're wrong, yet again.
I've never abandoned a child and there very much is a God.

I'm sorry you don't know him. I hope you find him one day.
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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It isn’t fair but it still took two to make the kid
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Many (not all but many) women use child support to punish the Father. I have seen it firsthand & it's extremely unfair. I have seen women use the money for expensive car payments, shopping, etc. As a single mother, I opted to receive no child support, the trade-off being our freedom since the Father was not interested in being a Dad anyways. There is nothing brave or virtuous about being a single mom (it sucks)& You learn your lesson the first time when you're footing the bill.
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I got the reverse going on. She refuses to file for child support, because I WANT to pay, so that I can have rights to my child, she keeps my child away from me legally by never filing child support, and I lack the resources to physically take off work and go get a hotel and take the proper steps where they're located- to file on my own.

Normally opposed to sharing my personal business online, but I feel these tactics must be made known that they're Happening to loving fathers who WANT to be around their kids...
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Child support is terrorism on men, pure and simple
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It is a system of commerce - money. It's none of the system's business if a father refuses to be a father or a mother refuses to be a mother.

Furthermore, it is force and fraud (the system of the rule of law) and the execution of a resources war, with no regard for the child, as a living being.

There is no god. The idea of god is used to perpetuate the war, and children are victims of the war. Children are always victims of war.
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The issue is that the system of commerce does not work, and it is only a criminal entity now, for profiteering, anyway.
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Don't be a deadbeat dad.
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Before you say this. Stop and think about the real evil things women do like take your seed, dump you to the curb or turn whore or crazy or fill in the blank. And youre fucked even if she is an unfit parent whoring aeound.
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Don't be a deadbeat dad.
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Before you say this. Stop and think about the real evil things women do like take your seed, dump you to the curb or turn whore or crazy or fill in the blank. And youre fucked even if she is an unfit parent whoring aeound.
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And, money does NOT make you a good parent. Period.
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Don't be a deadbeat dad.
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Before you say this. Stop and think about the real evil things women do like take your seed, dump you to the curb or turn whore or crazy or fill in the blank. And youre fucked even if she is an unfit parent whoring aeound.
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And, money does NOT make you a good parent. Period.
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This is actually a huge detail humanity is overlooking when it comes to parenting laws/rights...

Just because I don't accumulate enough green pieces of paper, I can not see my child. I can not express love to my child and teach my child life lessons, because I lack green pieces of paper... If that isn't terrorism/chaos in society on loving fathers- then idk what is. Disgusting...
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It's funny.. Mr. IP changer can't figure out how I know it's him. Too stupid on that front as well.
Lol, Morans like that need to keep their dick safe with Rosey Palmer.

Seriously, if they think all women are like that, what the hell are they dipping their wick for?

Complete ignorance and should not breed.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again




Good Lord, I guess so. Complete ignorance and should not breed is soooooo very right! I still say report the 'person' who threatened you. I am done with this thread. You can private message me if you want. I tried to educate but it can't be done to these degenerates. I can imagine what they were like in school. Like I said, may God damn them for not caring about their own children, as I am SURE will happen. You can't get any lower than this. I am just so glad my life is good and peaceful, but I fear so much for the children of these 'parents' here.
 Quoting: Veronica B.


I already di PM you. Don't let this mess ruffle you're feathers. Lol, these boys obviously have a wake up call coming.
They won't "educate" me on their nonsense.
I lived it. If they don't want to pay child support to the "whores and prostitutes" don't have sex with them. Lol. Pretty simple.

But, stupid is stupid, no matter how you spin it.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again



I saw your message but I wasn't able to send you one. I guess you have to be a paying member to do it.
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Child support laws can go to hell
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One of the best things with the coming Apocalypse is the eradication of all satanic antichrist child support laws that enslave millions of men
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You are so lost. You have picked loser women your entire life and can't admit your mistake. Therefore, you repeat the same cycle and blame females in general.

Can't wait to see you blow up.... maybe it will blow some common since into that stagnant brain your working with!
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I have two boys.

My first marriage ended with her writing about about some guy she met at a party on my birthday and wanted to kiss him so bad (I was dumb and said well shit no ones perfect shes drunk) and then a year later finding my best friend is on the floor in our living room with her arm around him (they weren't together but two weeks after). I kicked both of them out. She got custody (Duh) and got the courts to hide her address from me....I never saw him again until he was 18. He was 5 at the time. She wouldn't even let my mom see him or any of my family have contact even though we gave the court all of the information to contact us (court said we had rights for visitation). When he turned 18 my niece found em on Facebook (they grew up together before this all happened) and contacted him. He got our information from her and came over to visit. He loves me and we are two pees in a pod since then. Paid all that time or go to jail. I had no say in his upbringing as I could not contact her directly or had the funds at the time to battle the system (child support and all, you pay half your shit which is half my check).

After my first wife stopped letting me have any contact with my first son I found a wonderful woman. I thought I found the perfect wife. We was together for 10 years. I found her text to another man and took a screen shot on it from my phone. Courts don't care she gets custody of my second son. I ask her please let me see my child and don't do what my previous wife did. She agrees. She stopped all contact shortly after. I find out later the guy she was texting was trying to molest her oldest daughter of 3 that was not mine. They went to court and she lost custody of all 3 of her daughters. But they said she can keep my son as he wasn't a target of the molestation. I am still paying child support.


Yeah child support is fair, I'll see my second son when he is 18 like my first son since she is doing the same thing.


Because she can get away with it just like the first one. Don't got cash. Don't get ass.

Just like people in this thread say. If you aren't perfect or the other person isn't perfect. Don't have kids.

I mean its a perfect world with perfect child support. Hey guys if ya can pay ya raise your kids. If they let you.

Nothing left to say other than just pay fuckers. It doesn't matter if you spread your legs, ya busted a nut that's what matters. Pay up bitches.

I am not here to offend I am here to make a point.

No woman or man are a saint and the system is fucked up.

Welcome to our world my children.

This is how it works now.

Should I teach this to my boys?

I never told either of them about this although I have all documents and pictures.

Is this what we want from our system?

(P.S. I was never ordered by anyone of the court or legal system to not to be able to see my child or be around the mother. The mothers of my children just hid from me and hid my child from me. But hey if you have all the money in the world go fight it out in the courts.)
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You're right...We should end all politicians retirement payments.
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I have two boys.

My first marriage ended with her writing about about some guy she met at a party on my birthday and wanted to kiss him so bad (I was dumb and said well shit no ones perfect shes drunk) and then a year later finding my best friend is on the floor in our living room with her arm around him (they weren't together but two weeks after). I kicked both of them out. She got custody (Duh) and got the courts to hide her address from me....I never saw him again until he was 18. He was 5 at the time. She wouldn't even let my mom see him or any of my family have contact even though we gave the court all of the information to contact us (court said we had rights for visitation). When he turned 18 my niece found em on Facebook (they grew up together before this all happened) and contacted him. He got our information from her and came over to visit. He loves me and we are two pees in a pod since then. Paid all that time or go to jail. I had no say in his upbringing as I could not contact her directly or had the funds at the time to battle the system (child support and all, you pay half your shit which is half my check).

After my first wife stopped letting me have any contact with my first son I found a wonderful woman. I thought I found the perfect wife. We was together for 10 years. I found her text to another man and took a screen shot on it from my phone. Courts don't care she gets custody of my second son. I ask her please let me see my child and don't do what my previous wife did. She agrees. She stopped all contact shortly after. I find out later the guy she was texting was trying to molest her oldest daughter of 3 that was not mine. They went to court and she lost custody of all 3 of her daughters. But they said she can keep my son as he wasn't a target of the molestation. I am still paying child support.


Yeah child support is fair, I'll see my second son when he is 18 like my first son since she is doing the same thing.


Because she can get away with it just like the first one. Don't got cash. Don't get ass.

Just like people in this thread say. If you aren't perfect or the other person isn't perfect. Don't have kids.

I mean its a perfect world with perfect child support. Hey guys if ya can pay ya raise your kids. If they let you.

Nothing left to say other than just pay fuckers. It doesn't matter if you spread your legs, ya busted a nut that's what matters. Pay up bitches.

I am not here to offend I am here to make a point.

No woman or man are a saint and the system is fucked up.

Welcome to our world my children.

This is how it works now.

Should I teach this to my boys?

I never told either of them about this although I have all documents and pictures.

Is this what we want from our system?

(P.S. I was never ordered by anyone of the court or legal system to not to be able to see my child or be around the mother. The mothers of my children just hid from me and hid my child from me. But hey if you have all the money in the world go fight it out in the courts.)
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God bless
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All the morons saying a non payer is deadbeat. Stop. Not paying money doent mean you dont love or care. Bitch hides your kid and has another man? Fuck her, i wouldnt pay a red penny under such circumstances.
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OP hits all of the main issues right on the head IF the couple is unmarried. The system is against the man in most every circumstance.

The only way to avoid this with today's current laws is to have a contract ready to be signed and is irrevocable until explicitly amended if you are going to have sex with a woman you are not married to. There is even a mobile APP for such an encounter.

If you are MARRIED and don't want to pay child support for YOUR kid when you're divorced, nothing can help you and you are a deadbeat.
I don't suffer fools gladly, therefore I suffer here.
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My husband would work his fingers to the bone- in famine he would willingly starve and give his children and I the last of the bread. What kind of monster must a man be who resents supporting his own children. Hideous and deformed beyond recognition as human.





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