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Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it

 
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Fed funds futures were pointing to a quarter point in easing Monday, as traders said scary signals continued to emanate from the bond market.

On Friday, there was a so-called inversion in the yield curve, meaning very short rates rose above longer 10-year note rates, a fairly reliable recession signal.

Traders say the bond market may be overreacting, while stocks seem to be ignoring the recession warnings and fears the Fed will have to jump in with one or more rate cuts to stop the economy from rolling over.
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Oh it's going to crash. Hard.
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Fed funds futures were pointing to a quarter point in easing Monday, as traders said scary signals continued to emanate from the bond market.

On Friday, there was a so-called inversion in the yield curve, meaning very short rates rose above longer 10-year note rates, a fairly reliable recession signal.

Traders say the bond market may be overreacting, while stocks seem to be ignoring the recession warnings and fears the Fed will have to jump in with one or more rate cuts to stop the economy from rolling over.
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The Fed does not want to stop it. Central banks were started to time booms and busts with political moves so that there would be control over them for maximum impact. They have no interest in smoothing out booms and busts for any benefit of the general public.
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
yield curve is not inverted its flatlined

but only because of Europe is in a slump

Fox News poll this morning... 61% of Americans

think economy is doing great, Good sign
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Three months into the year and we're up over 10%, all the fundamentals look great...
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
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Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


I don't recall the markets crashing in the Bible...
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One of the indicators that makes me nervous?
I'm starting to see more and more house flipping ads...

follow my course and flip houses! Get rich!

Uh-oh.hiding2
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Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
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Oh much sooner...by 2020.
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Everything is speeding up.... Why does anyone think this crash is a few years away?
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The housing market will crash the economy watch. Millenials are buying million dollar homes in San Jose, SFO suburbs without any long term plan.
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Oh it's going to crash. Hard.
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Fuck off,isn’t going to,President just got re-elected,markets are going up.
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Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


I don't recall the markets crashing in the Bible...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Probably because you don't know what the Black Horse does.
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
Oh it's going to crash. Hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75126281


Fuck off,isn’t going to,President just got re-elected,markets are going up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75658817


Actually, you are incorrect. Their playbook is being followed to a "T". They couldn't get him on collusion. They are struggling separating his following by poor MSM news. The next phase of their plan is very simple. Crash the f'king economy. Let the tail wag the dog. This is going to be big...they will try with everything to use the deep state to crash our economy to get people against him.
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No doubt about it, a hard landing is forthwith, Rent, housing, almost everything is way overpriced, food is inflated.. Something has to give..
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War will fix everything.
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Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


I don't recall the markets crashing in the Bible...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It not only crashes but costs a weeks wages to make 2 loaves of bread and then you cannot buy or sell that without the mark. Sounds like an awesome scenario for all

“A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius – but do not harm the olive oil and the wine”

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
I highly doubt the FED will cut interest rates.

They'll stand firm for a good while...but they wont cut.
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I highly doubt the FED will cut interest rates.

They'll stand firm for a good while...but they wont cut.
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Then welcome to the recession in 2019.
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The housing market will crash the economy watch. Millenials are buying million dollar homes in San Jose, SFO suburbs without any long term plan.
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Definitely. Real estate is due for another burst... /sigh
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
I highly doubt the FED will cut interest rates.

They'll stand firm for a good while...but they wont cut.
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They’ll have little choice. Bad news if not. No one really wants ‘the party’ to stop. Can-kick is my guess /shrug.
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War will fix everything.
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Exactly
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Oh it's going to crash. Hard.
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Fuck off,isn’t going to,President just got re-elected,markets are going up.
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Pfffft.

Sure they are
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It's the debt bubble. Anything (housing) highly leveraged is coming back on the market.
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
I highly doubt the FED will cut interest rates.

They'll stand firm for a good while...but they wont cut.
 Quoting: Mental Case
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I highly doubt the FED will cut interest rates.

They'll stand firm for a good while...but they wont cut.
 Quoting: Mental Case

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56735503


Nope they got to raise rates to stay relevant, bond holders know the interest rate game and saw this coming 2yrs ago.
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Re: Bond market says not only is a recession coming, but the Fed will cut interest rates to stop it
Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


No, it won't be "biblical". All economies undergo cycles, our is no exception. And we've been in growth mode to one extent or another for the past ten years. No cycle lasts forever.
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Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


Don't forget about the realty market, and sub prime mortgages!

The lenders are up to their old tricks that led to the last crash around 2008. My wife and I saw the beginning of that crash starting in 2005.

It's coming back around again. If the big lenders keep up what they are doing, we could see another crash within 5 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67111927


It will be a huge crash and likely within the year. We dont have 5 years. Get ready. This will be biblical in scope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


I don't recall the markets crashing in the Bible...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's in this digital bible.

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War will fix everything.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Aaaaand... it’s Miss Cleo for the win!

/thread
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War will fix everything.
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Aaaaand... it’s Miss Cleo for the win!

/thread
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yay.

Bring on the Draft and Men in Uniform. yum.