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A lot of the present debt of private citizens can be found in "medical." Obama did a good job at putting us in debt.
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The entire concept of insurance has been bastardized anyway.

Insurance is supposed to be for something catastrophic. There's no reason you should have to use insurance for something basic.
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Your lawmakers could fix your health care system in a week if they really wanted to.
They could start by placing caps on the costs..
Why should a bottle of pills for 2500 bucks in the u.s when the same bottle in canada or mexico cost 30 bucks?

How about minor injuries like broken legs or arms? 15-20k hospital bill?
That is outrageous... You guys look to canada and say ya its free up there but the wait times are shit.. Your wait times wouldn't change much.. Would you rather a 4 hr emergency room wait or 10k bill cause you got in right away?

The u.s government can put cost caps on anything they want and the industries have to follow suit.. What is big pharma gonna say or do? Nothing.. They can't sell to the rest of the world because the rest of the world uses nationalized system that cap costs..
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This Socialism of Health Insurance has to stop...

These Judges are not elected by the People, but rather the Deep State...

People's voices need to be heard...

Shoon it will be time:

Shoon

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This Socialism of Health Insurance has to stop...

These Judges are not elected by the People, but rather the Deep State...

People's voices need to be heard...

Shoon it will be time:

:Shoon:

:mobtorches:
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Re: Court blocks Trump rule allowing cheaper health insurance
This Socialism of Health Insurance has to stop...

These Judges are not elected by the People, but rather the Deep State...

People's voices need to be heard...

Shoon it will be time:

:Shoon:

:mobtorches:
 Quoting: DuckNCover

Its actually a fascist system.. What you want is a nationalized system with federal caps on costs for everything.. but I would start off first by cap prescription costs..

The biggest problem in D.C is lobbying.. Big pharma just greases the right people to keep things in their best interest. That needs to be dealt with as well.
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This Socialism of Health Insurance has to stop...

These Judges are not elected by the People, but rather the Deep State...

People's voices need to be heard...

Shoon it will be time:

:Shoon:

:mobtorches:
 Quoting: DuckNCover

Its actually a fascist system.. What you want is a nationalized system with federal caps on costs for everything.. but I would start off first by cap prescription costs..

The biggest problem in D.C is lobbying.. Big pharma just greases the right people to keep things in their best interest. That needs to be dealt with as well.
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Yeah, we have about the most messed up system that anyone could ever think of.

Everything is way too corrupt now to even attempt at fixing it through government. Way too many people make way too much money off of this system, so any type of government solution will just be those people attempting to make more money off the system.
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This Socialism of Health Insurance has to stop...

These Judges are not elected by the People, but rather the Deep State...

People's voices need to be heard...

Shoon it will be time:

:Shoon:

:mobtorches:
 Quoting: DuckNCover

Its actually a fascist system.. What you want is a nationalized system with federal caps on costs for everything.. but I would start off first by cap prescription costs..

The biggest problem in D.C is lobbying.. Big pharma just greases the right people to keep things in their best interest. That needs to be dealt with as well.
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If you look at the cost of an overnight stay in a hospital from state to state you know it's a total scam.

In some states it only cost a few hundred bucks, and in others it's thousands of dollars.

Doctors and nurses have become greedy, along with everyone in healthcare, and Obama made it that much worse.

They need to hand out as many medical degrees as possible, and drive the prices down.

Obama eliminated the competition, and drove the prices up.
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If you look at the cost of an overnight stay in a hospital from state to state you know it's a total scam.

In some states it only cost a few hundred bucks, and in others it's thousands of dollars.

Doctors and nurses have become greedy, along with everyone in healthcare, and Obama made it that much worse.

They need to hand out as many medical degrees as possible, and drive the prices down.

Obama eliminated the competition, and drove the prices up.
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If you look at the cost of an overnight stay in a hospital from state to state you know it's a total scam.

In some states it only cost a few hundred bucks, and in others it's thousands of dollars.

Doctors and nurses have become greedy, along with everyone in healthcare, and Obama made it that much worse.

They need to hand out as many medical degrees as possible, and drive the prices down.

Obama eliminated the competition, and drove the prices up.
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I don't think you really want medical degrees to be handed out; but, otherwise I generally agree with your point.
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well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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People are paying more now for Health Insurance than a Home Mortgage and that is for the shitty insurance with still thousands of dollars of co-pays

And if you don't take it, you now get charged thousands of dollars I hear from in IRS penalties

And the Rich keep getting Richer, and the poor and sick, keep getting poorer and sicker

And the Middle Class is almost extinct.

25 years ago, I had Health Insurance and Full Dental benefits, and my portion was so tiny, every two weeks, I would say it could have been NO more than 40 dollars a month, if that even. WE PAID FOR NOTHING ELSE......EXCEPT 5 DOLLARS FOR EACH VISIT......

My daughter had chronic asthma, until I learned how to cure it, and so she was in emergency often, and I had the machines at home, and the medications..........didn't cost me a thing.

OH AND ASTHMA IS ACTUALLY CAUSED FROM A VITAMIN DEFICIENCY.........OUR FOOD IS SEVERELY AFFECTED FROM CHEMICALS SO EVEN EATING HEALTHY YOU DO NOT GET WHAT OUR ANCESTORS GOT

If you have Asthma, get a very High potency Multi Vitamin and take it everyday........my daughter has NOT had any Asthma for over 20 years.......though the Doctors would have let her die many times because we love pharmaceuticals the kill us...........and do NOT use all the Medicine God has given us.

Stomach Ulcers can be cured by taking 2 spoons of pepto bismo for a month, this is what Farmers do for cattle, it works have not had any Ulcers for many years.


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Not hard to do, avoid alcohol and red meat and processed foods mainly.
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Re: Court blocks Trump rule allowing cheaper health insurance
well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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We stand in constitutional chaos and in the fog of war.
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Re: Court blocks Trump rule allowing cheaper health insurance
well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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We stand in constitutional chaos and in the fog of war.
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Trump needs a judicial convention.
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well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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We stand in constitutional chaos and in the fog of war.
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Trump needs a judicial convention.
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Not gonna happen. Wish it would happen, but it's a pipedream in this political climate.

No, Houston, we have a problem.
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Re: Court blocks Trump rule allowing cheaper health insurance
well another court ruled obamacare was illegal

so where do we stand now?
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We stand in constitutional chaos and in the fog of war.
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Trump needs a judicial convention.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


Not gonna happen. Wish it would happen, but it's a pipedream in this political climate.

No, Houston, we have a problem.
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Like a convention with all judges local and federal in a forum.
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Medical Tort Reform, where there is regulated costs across the board.
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Otto Heinrich Warburg, with a doctorate of chemistry, and a second doctorate in medicine, was a physiologist and noted biochemist born in 1883 in Freiburg, Baden, Germany. Dr. Warburg won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1931, and died in Berlin in 1970. He believed in eating organic.

Dr. Warburg was awarded the Nobel prize for his discovery that cancer is caused by weakened cell respiration due to lack of oxygen at the cellular level, and proving cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. In other words, the main cause for cancer is acidity of the human body. In his Nobel Prize winning study, Dr. Warburg illustrated the environment of the cancer cell. According to Warburg, damaged cell respiration causes fermentation, resulting in low pH (acidity) at the cellular level. Warburg also wrote about oxygen's relationship to the pH of cancer cells internal environment. Since fermentation was a major metabolic pathway of cancer cells, Warburg reported that cancer cells maintain a lower pH, as low as 6.0, due to lactic acid production and elevated CO2. HE PROVED CANCER CANNOT GROW NOR DEVELOP IN BODY ALKALINITY OF 7.36. He firmly believed that there was a direct relationship between pH and oxygen. Higher pH means higher concentration of oxygen molecules while lower pH means lower concentrations of oxygen. A normal healthy cell undergoes an adverse change when it can no longer take in oxygen to convert glucose into energy. In the absence of oxygen, the cell reverts to a primal nutritional program to nourish itself by converting glucose through the process of fermentation. The lactic acid produced by fermentation lowers the cell pH (acid/alkaline balance) and destroys the ability of DNA and RNA to control cell division. The cancer cells then begin to multiply. The lactic acid simultaneously causes severe local pain as it destroys cell enzymes. Cancer appears as a rapidly growing external cell covering, with a core of dead cells.

So we have known the proven cause, prevention & cure of cancer since 1931
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We stand in constitutional chaos and in the fog of war.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Trump needs a judicial convention.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


Not gonna happen. Wish it would happen, but it's a pipedream in this political climate.

No, Houston, we have a problem.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Like a convention with all judges local and federal in a forum.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


That sounds good. In a healthy and open government that's what would happen. But you are in the throws of a socialist red dawn and being hit with the magic of a thousand points of light.

The one and only way to turn this tide short of war is for the stupid American voter to stop voting in leftists at the city, county, state, and federal levels. And they won't do it. They're hooked on the Marxist dope show.

The problem is the idiotic American progressive democrat voter. That is your enemy. Not the judge; your next door neighbor.
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Trump needs a judicial convention.
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Not gonna happen. Wish it would happen, but it's a pipedream in this political climate.

No, Houston, we have a problem.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Like a convention with all judges local and federal in a forum.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


That sounds good. In a healthy and open government that's what would happen. But you are in the throws of a socialist red dawn and being hit with the magic of a thousand points of light.

The one and only way to turn this tide short of war is for the stupid American voter to stop voting in leftists at the city, county, state, and federal levels. And they won't do it. They're hooked on the Marxist dope show.

The problem is the idiotic American progressive democrat voter. That is your enemy. Not the judge; your next door neighbor.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Well we gotta have neighborhoods political conventions then.
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Not gonna happen. Wish it would happen, but it's a pipedream in this political climate.

No, Houston, we have a problem.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Like a convention with all judges local and federal in a forum.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


That sounds good. In a healthy and open government that's what would happen. But you are in the throws of a socialist red dawn and being hit with the magic of a thousand points of light.

The one and only way to turn this tide short of war is for the stupid American voter to stop voting in leftists at the city, county, state, and federal levels. And they won't do it. They're hooked on the Marxist dope show.

The problem is the idiotic American progressive democrat voter. That is your enemy. Not the judge; your next door neighbor.
 Quoting: anastasis888


Well we gotta have neighborhoods political conventions then.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


The Constitution calls those millitias. We've seen this movie, and we know how it ends. Once dialogue has broken down and government is effectively defunct between waring parties, you naturally move to the only possible next step - war. And that is the only next step in this nation. We are in the fog of war right before that collective realization of the fact that we are a nation at war with itself dawns.
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Well, it is patently impossible for anything to actually be Constitutional when it requires you to buy something that you may or may not want. Even viewed as a tax, it isn't directly apportioned.

So, in short, they can't make you buy it. If people just quit buying the BS, it would die by itself.
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The entire concept of insurance has been bastardized anyway.

Insurance is supposed to be for something catastrophic. There's no reason you should have to use insurance for something basic.
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Sure we would if we could actually do anything with the low amount of money we earn, just blood test and other tests i had , JUST TO FIND OUT if anything was wrong with me cost insurance company 1.5 K... The fucking RATES ARE made up!
Machines and electricity does all the job and testing in blood. and they charge 1.5 K for that CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE THAT SHIT, if you dont have insurance and you call Ambulance you will pay 4-5 K no problemo
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A pissy little district court, par for the course. pick

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Well, it is patently impossible for anything to actually be Constitutional when it requires you to buy something that you may or may not want. Even viewed as a tax, it isn't directly apportioned.

So, in short, they can't make you buy it. If people just quit buying the BS, it would die by itself.
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What it would take is a new Boston Tea Party of sorts, except a lot bigger.

People would just have to flat out start saying "no". A tea party not as a cutesy political movement label, but a tea party of infuriated Americans en masse saying, This far and no farther! People in the multiplied millions saying, No!
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Your lawmakers could fix your health care system in a week if they really wanted to.
They could start by placing caps on the costs..
Why should a bottle of pills for 2500 bucks in the u.s when the same bottle in canada or mexico cost 30 bucks?

How about minor injuries like broken legs or arms? 15-20k hospital bill?
That is outrageous... You guys look to canada and say ya its free up there but the wait times are shit.. Your wait times wouldn't change much.. Would you rather a 4 hr emergency room wait or 10k bill cause you got in right away?

The u.s government can put cost caps on anything they want and the industries have to follow suit.. What is big pharma gonna say or do? Nothing.. They can't sell to the rest of the world because the rest of the world uses nationalized system that cap costs..
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The answers to your questions are so very simple....

The bottom line is those who can pay---pay more so those who cannot dont. duh....

Not to demean your post but its socialism and someone has to pay, nothing is free and R&D for drug manufacturers is dramatic along with they are in it to make money also.

Its not to provide jobs nor a humanitarian motivator, its money and thank God they are there because millions of peoples lives are better and longer because of their greed.
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Yeah the Judge just found out his paycheck comes from Government kickbacks coming from the "legal" drug and pharmaceutical industry!

Ha! Go figure!





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