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Only 100 square miles of solar panels are required to power the entire United States | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288  United States03/31/2019 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when a hailstorm destroys a vast number of them, what then? Or a tornado? Earthquake? Other natural occurrence of nature? Why not reveal the Tesla files, give everyone free energy, and be done with electrical power all together, by tapping into the same conductive force that induces gravity? Because money, profit, and the control of vast swathes of resources, in order to cage the mind, and harvest the soul. Quoting: Zoink Simple. Place them all on car lifts. lower them underground until the storm passes As for batteries, they go 3' underground where they are constantly warm, constantly cool. as for attack, have redundancies. Instead of placing it all in one location, build three of them. Scatter them around. Only issue is chemtrails. it blocks out too much Sunlight. The new panels are AMAZING. Batteries finally caught up. |
Lacey Underall  User ID: 76792534 United States03/31/2019 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should continue to use fossil fuels full blast, until they release the suppressed energy technology. We have been using internal combustion engines since the 1890's!!!! So we don't have any scientists smart enough to come up with a replacement in all those years? Last Edited by StopsniffinmeBrandon on 03/31/2019 04:53 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40127480 United States03/31/2019 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the new math rules! Old math: 10 miles x 10 miles = 100 square miles 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles Soooo....1 ft x 1 ft = 10 square feet Actually it is a matter of semantics.... 100 miles x 100 miles = 100 miles square The Area contained in 100 miles square is equal to 10,000 square miles Try 10,000 miles not squared. |
| Crypto-Tard User ID: 69359666 United States03/31/2019 05:18 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “If you wanted to power the entire United States with solar panels, it would take a fairly small corner of Nevada or Texas or Utah; you only need about 100 miles by 100 miles of solar panels to power the entire United States,” Quoting: norakat147 “The batteries you need to store the energy, so you have 24/7 power, is 1 mile by 1 mile. One square-mile.” It’s “a little square on the U.S. map, and then there’s a little pixel inside there, and that’s the size of the battery park that you need to support that. Real tiny.” [link to www.inverse.com (secure)] If this were spread over the United States connected by a power grid sounds doable and not very intrusive, the panels also being on top of building roofs.. What we waiting for? Rules/Regulations already force businesses to buy green energy for solar/wind. It's one of a billion reasons, the United States isn't competitive in the global economy except being the largest debtors. Everyone has an opinion. I don't want your ideas forced on me nor would I want to pay for your idea. I have solar power at my own home. One solar panel is about enough power to power a light bulb. You must be running big light bulbs. The panels I have are 240 watt, they are 10 years old so probably 85% of that iswhat I get, call it 200 watts. A single LED bulb runs about 8 watts. I can run my GE fridge (about 100 watts) and all the lighting in my house on one panel. Storage and cloudy days are the issue. Water pumps for wells and moving water consume a lot of power. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77347008 United States03/31/2019 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when a hailstorm destroys a vast number of them, what then? Or a tornado? Earthquake? Other natural occurrence of nature? Why not reveal the Tesla files, give everyone free energy, and be done with electrical power all together, by tapping into the same conductive force that induces gravity? Because money, profit, and the control of vast swathes of resources, in order to cage the mind, and harvest the soul. Quoting: Zoink Simple. Place them all on car lifts. lower them underground until the storm passes As for batteries, they go 3' underground where they are constantly warm, constantly cool. as for attack, have redundancies. Instead of placing it all in one location, build three of them. Scatter them around. Only issue is chemtrails. it blocks out too much Sunlight. The new panels are AMAZING. Batteries finally caught up. And what would that cost? |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 77161354 United States03/31/2019 05:27 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “If you wanted to power the entire United States with solar panels, it would take a fairly small corner of Nevada or Texas or Utah; you only need about 100 miles by 100 miles of solar panels to power the entire United States,” Quoting: norakat147 “The batteries you need to store the energy, so you have 24/7 power, is 1 mile by 1 mile. One square-mile.” It’s “a little square on the U.S. map, and then there’s a little pixel inside there, and that’s the size of the battery park that you need to support that. Real tiny.” [link to www.inverse.com (secure)] If this were spread over the United States connected by a power grid sounds doable and not very intrusive, the panels also being on top of building roofs.. What we waiting for? Rules/Regulations already force businesses to buy green energy for solar/wind. It's one of a billion reasons, the United States isn't competitive in the global economy except being the largest debtors. Everyone has an opinion. I don't want your ideas forced on me nor would I want to pay for your idea. I have solar power at my own home. One solar panel is about enough power to power a light bulb. You must be running big light bulbs. The panels I have are 240 watt, they are 10 years old so probably 85% of that iswhat I get, call it 200 watts. A single LED bulb runs about 8 watts. I can run my GE fridge (about 100 watts) and all the lighting in my house on one panel. Storage and cloudy days are the issue. Water pumps for wells and moving water consume a lot of power. You are using 1 panel which yields 240 Watts? We went the Harbor Freight route ourselves. LOL Try looking into bus capacitors for storage. They work pretty well. You can get them from China (I know, I know) at a reasonable price, compared to batteries. We use LED bulbs, propane and wood, very low usage.. The problem with the nation turning suddenly to solar is that people like their 40" TVs and a lot of appliances, not that it isn't feasible to install single family solar. I am not suggesting that all citizens go frugal with electricity. Just stating that supporting that kind of usage would cost a lot of $$. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 77161354 United States03/31/2019 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 77161354 United States03/31/2019 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Phang Nga Thank you for the new math rules! Old math: 10 miles x 10 miles = 100 square miles 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles Soooo....1 ft x 1 ft = 10 square feet No. There are no zeros to add together, to put it simply. You really should take an online math course, for your own good. You could be cheated so easily with the math skills you curently have. Seriously. My Math skills have always been minimal at best. That's no sin.  *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| Lily o' the Valley User ID: 77161354 United States03/31/2019 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “If you wanted to power the entire United States with solar panels, it would take a fairly small corner of Nevada or Texas or Utah; you only need about 100 miles by 100 miles of solar panels to power the entire United States,” Quoting: norakat147 “The batteries you need to store the energy, so you have 24/7 power, is 1 mile by 1 mile. One square-mile.” It’s “a little square on the U.S. map, and then there’s a little pixel inside there, and that’s the size of the battery park that you need to support that. Real tiny.” [link to www.inverse.com (secure)] If this were spread over the United States connected by a power grid sounds doable and not very intrusive, the panels also being on top of building roofs.. What we waiting for? I power my home, garage, and guest house with solar panels that doesn't exceed their footprint. What do you use to power your ego? Ouch! *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3986036 United States03/31/2019 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Respect is something that must be earned, not demanded. And if you think 100 miles times 100 miles equals 100 square miles, you need to hurry your ass back to Romper Room!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3986036 United States03/31/2019 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. There are no zeros to add together, to put it simply. You really should take an online math course, for your own good. You could be cheated so easily with the math skills you curently have. Seriously. My Math skills have always been minimal at best. That's no sin. It may not be a sin to be stupid, but to be ignorant, stupid and refuse to better yourself is. It takes a really, really, really lazy piece of shit to refuse to learn basic math. |
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| Lacey Underall User ID: 76792534 United States03/31/2019 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lily o' the Valley No. There are no zeros to add together, to put it simply. You really should take an online math course, for your own good. You could be cheated so easily with the math skills you curently have. Seriously. My Math skills have always been minimal at best. That's no sin. It may not be a sin to be stupid, but to be ignorant, stupid and refuse to better yourself is. It takes a really, really, really lazy piece of shit to refuse to learn basic math. At leest my spellink is god. |
| eilonwy User ID: 77197203 United States03/31/2019 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3986036 United States03/31/2019 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may not be a sin to be stupid, but to be ignorant, stupid and refuse to better yourself is. It takes a really, really, really lazy piece of shit to refuse to learn basic math. At leest my spellink is god. You need to change your name to :Overall Lazy: You poor dumb Bastard! :rere23 : |
| Lacey Underall User ID: 76792534 United States03/31/2019 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the new math rules! Old math: 10 miles x 10 miles = 100 square miles 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles Soooo....1 ft x 1 ft = 10 square feet Actually it is a matter of semantics.... 100 miles x 100 miles = 100 miles square The Area contained in 100 miles square is equal to 10,000 square miles Try 10,000 miles not squared. 10,000 plots of 1 mile X 1 mile ( 1 SQUARE MILE) 10,000 miles only describes length. Last Edited by StopsniffinmeBrandon on 03/31/2019 06:05 PM |
| eilonwy User ID: 77197203 United States03/31/2019 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is a page about solviva-inspired schools. [link to www.betterfarm.org] |
| Lacey Underall User ID: 76792534 United States03/31/2019 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Phang Nga Thank you for the new math rules! Old math: 10 miles x 10 miles = 100 square miles 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles Soooo....1 ft x 1 ft = 10 square feet Actually it is a matter of semantics.... 100 miles x 100 miles = 100 miles square The Area contained in 100 miles square is equal to 10,000 square miles Try 10,000 miles not squared. 10,000 plots of 1 mile X 1 mile ( 1 SQUARE MILE) 10,000 miles only describes length.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61625577 United States03/31/2019 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ha, ha. The land area of the entire United States is 3,531,905 square miles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40127480 I'm sure 100 square miles would be enough. Have all of you lost your common sense? For those interested, here's the simple math: 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles 1 mile = 5280 ft 10,000 square mile = 5,280 x 5,280 sq ft = 27,878,400 sq ft ---- One of the posters above has a 240W solar panel, probably like this one: [link to www.gogreensolar.com (secure)] so, he gets: 240 W / (65in x 39in) = 240 W / 2,535 sq in. = 240W / 17.6 sq. ft 240 W / 17.6 sq. ft = 13.6 W/sq. ft. ----- The total max power that can be generated from 10,000 square miles of these panels is: 13.6W/sq.ft x 27,848,400 sq. ft. = 379,661,027 W ~= 380 MW ----- The total energy produced from this many panels over 24hrs is: 380MW x 24hrs = 9,112 MWhrs = 9.1 GWhrs and the total over 1 year is: 9.1GWhrs x 365 days/yr = 3326 GWhrs ---- How much electricity is used in the US annually? [link to www.eia.gov (secure)] ----- So, a 10,000 sq mile solar farm with this model solar panel can supply: 3326 GWhrs / 10.4MWhrs per household = 319, 791 households ----- How many households are in the US? [link to www.statista.com (secure)] ---- So, the OP's proposed solar farm can power at best: 319,791 / 127,590,000 = 0.25% of US households Sorry, fail, interesting calculation though. |
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| Remedial_Rebel User ID: 77275768 United States03/31/2019 06:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can any body tell me, what happened to Fusion power. This was a big thing in the 80's and 90's. I read in 1996 research labs had achieved break even. Then most news died out. I know I can google it, but there's little if any news of real development. Squashed by fossil fuel and nuclear interests? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61625577 United States03/31/2019 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OOPS - I MADE A WHOPPER OF A MISTAKE, SEE BELOW (!!!)-> __________________________________________________________ For those interested, here's the simple math: 100 miles x 100 miles = 10,000 square miles 1 mile = 5280 ft 10,000 square mile x 5,280 x 5,280 sq ft/sq mile = 278,784,000,000 sq ft ---- One of the posters above has a 240W solar panel, probably like this one: [link to www.gogreensolar.com (secure)] so, he gets: 240 W / (65in x 39in) = 240 W / 2,535 sq in. = 240W / 17.6 sq. ft 240 W / 17.6 sq. ft = 13.6 W/sq. ft. ----- The total max power that can be generated from 10,000 square miles of these panels is: 13.6W/sq.ft x 278,784,000,000 sq. ft. = 3,791,462,400,000 W = 3,791,462MW = 3,791GW ----- The total energy produced from this many panels over 24hrs is: 3,791GW x 24hrs = 90,984 GWhrs ~= 91,000 GWhrs and the total over 1 year is: 91,000GWhrs x 365 days/yr = 33,215,000 GWhrs ---- How much electricity is used in the US annually? [link to www.eia.gov (secure)] ----- So, a 10,000 sq mile solar farm with this model solar panel can supply: 33,215,000 GWhrs / 10.4MWhrs per household = 3,193,750,000 households ----- How many households are in the US? [link to www.statista.com (secure)] ---- So, the OP's proposed solar farm can power at best: 3,193,750,000 / 127,590,000 = 25 times the # of US households WHOAAAAAA, color me IMPRESSED!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77347008 United States03/31/2019 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can any body tell me, what happened to Fusion power. Quoting: Remedial_Rebel This was a big thing in the 80's and 90's. I read in 1996 research labs had achieved break even. Then most news died out. I know I can google it, but there's little if any news of real development. Squashed by fossil fuel and nuclear interests? It takes more energy to contain the fusion (that is, to prevent it from becoming a bomb) than the energy that is gained from the fusion. |
