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Worldwide Hog Industry on Alert for ASF; Flood Wipes Out NE Cattle
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Pork - While there is no vaccine for the disease that causes a 100% mortality rate, researchers might be able to use gene editing to find a new control,

Beef - The flooding is likely to hit cattlemen hard, as well as row crop farmers.

“[Sec. Sonny] Perdue actually set a number that seemed high to us at Pro Farmer—up to 1 million calves in Nebraska,” he added.
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Worldwide Hog Industry on Alert for ASF; Flood Wipes Out NE Cattle
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Pork - While there is no vaccine for the disease that causes a 100% mortality rate, researchers might be able to use gene editing to find a new control,

Beef - The flooding is likely to hit cattlemen hard, as well as row crop farmers.

“[Sec. Sonny] Perdue actually set a number that seemed high to us at Pro Farmer—up to 1 million calves in Nebraska,” he added.
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1,000,000 calves died, more flooding they say until May due to the gigantic amount of snow melt to come. Mississippi will over flow for weeks yet. Better stock up on a few things.
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People need to stop stating this 1 million number as fact. They don't even know the true number yet.

The "1 million" quote actually was first reported on March 19th in a Reuters article that I can't link, but this article confirms and contains the link:

Historic Midwest Flooding Has Devastating Consequences for Farmers

"U.S. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters that the governors of Nebraska and Iowa had told him that up to one million calves may have been killed, Reuters reported in another article."

[link to www.ecowatch.com (secure)]

The article says it is for both states, not just Nebraska.

In the Reuters article, Nebraska Agriculture Department Director Steve Wellman said there were no reliable numbers of animals lost to flooding in the paragraph directly following the quote from Perdue.

The most recent article I could find still is not giving us an actual number and it is from the 27th.

Livestock Losses Still Being Tallied in Nebraska

"Without solid numbers, it's hard to know the overall effect on Nebraska's beef cattle industry will be, or how it might affect things on a national scale."

[link to www.agweb.com (secure)]

I think it's a little reckless to get carried away until we have actual real numbers and we are still at the point of speculation right now. Not every cow in America was located in Nebraska. I am sure that not even all of Nebraska was completely under water.

To put things into perspective here, there are 94.759 million head in the entire country.

Ranking Of States With The Most Cattle

"The cattle inventory in the United States in 2019 is at 94.759 million head."

[link to beef2live.com (secure)]

I'm not saying that the cattle loss is not tragic, but I am also trying to bring some perspective here.
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PLENTY OF TIME TO REPLANT SPRING ISN'T EVEN HERE YET
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What does the local farmer state? It will take a couple years to reclaim the land for planting again.
If your entire yard/acreage/farm flooded, would you have quick access to functional machinery and viable seed, to immediately plant as soon as the floodwaters subside?
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The layer of sludge and debris has to be scraped off first to restore the farm land.
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At least 1 million acres (405,000 hectares) of U.S. farmland were flooded after the "bomb cyclone" storm left wide swaths of nine major grain producing states under water this month, satellite data analyzed by Gro Intelligence for Reuters showed.


There are 915 million acres of farmland in the US. Subtract one million and there are 914 million left to go.

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At least 1 million acres (405,000 hectares) of U.S. farmland were flooded after the "bomb cyclone" storm left wide swaths of nine major grain producing states under water this month, satellite data analyzed by Gro Intelligence for Reuters showed.

Farms from the Dakotas to Missouri and beyond have been under water for a week or more, possibly impeding planting and damaging soil. The floods, which came just weeks before planting season starts in the Midwest, will likely reduce corn, wheat and soy production this year.

"There's thousands of acres that won't be able to be planted," Ryan Sonderup, 36, of Fullerton, Nebraska, who has been farming for 18 years, said in a recent interview.
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Its still march
its snowing in western ny right now

Why would weather that is NORMAL for this time of year....aka WINTER be causing famines????

on top of that

we have green house technology, we can have 24/7/365 growing cycles...instead of short growing seasons that are completely dependent on a dynamic climate which rely solely upon mono-culture and poisons

Yes the investment is expensive, but the effectiveness, the stability of the system, the elimination of the need for crop insurance, everything makes up for it in the long run
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Hello Penny Preppers! You most assuredly are right, its a disaster still unfolding. It will effect your prices going out to eat just as fast as the grocery store and with 45 million illegal mouths to feed, you can imagine the possibilities. Ive already been out and bought new railroad ties to stack up and back fill with sod for planting. I have a short growing season here in the mountains it will have to be covered in case of hail but im piling lumber because I know whats coming, its a simple math equation.

Lets see, with food a plenty it cost me and one other person 34 dollars for a burger and fries at a restaurant, with a tip. Prices have already been steadily climbing for 3 years at least. What used to cost 28 dollars is now 34 dollars.


At the base of the entire totem pole though is the farmer and rancher in the same sinking ship. They too have been fighting prices of fuel cost of living and 60% have been struggling for the last eight years just to stay a float. suffering a catastrophic loss like what ive been seeing across the board has me hearing from thousands that they are done and cant recover. I call that real doom financially for many. Luck favors the prudent. Its even easy to grow food in an apartment setting if you know how. Ive read many comments on this thread about no significant threat and this southern boy says different.hayseedbattleflag
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So glad you are aware and telling people the facts. I suppose each of us has a small following and different folks believe different ones. I just hope a few believe each of us, adding to the numbers, small though they be, that are aware and preparing for what is just around the corner - and it's not much of a corner!

We are in deep trouble from so many directions - the leftists are hoping to take over after they get rid of us, is this correct? What are they going to be eating and driving and all? How will they do better than we? I'd prefer a good conservative steak to a well-prepared vegetable socialist dish!

Life is not what we knew it to be, already. Too many changes have assaulted "our" way of life. Now it is going to become much tougher just to survive. Anybody here know how to make shoes? My grandfather did. Could you plow a field with an ox? My grandfather could. Could you log from the forest with horses? My father did. Can I do those things? No. No need to teach me because life had become different, much easier. Right?

Fortunately, I know how to cook on a wood stove, make my own bread, grow my own vegetables and fruits and chickens and ducks. I know how to sew, to mend, to reinforce. I like that way of life - always did. However, space now is so much harder to acquire. I no longer live in a rural area, nor can afford even an old fixer-upper. Life changed that much in one lifetime.

What life will our grandchildren have? This worries me greatly. Hope it worries you, too.
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Floods in Midwest: Will you pay more for food after extreme weather?

"American Farm Bureau spokesman William Rodger expects little change in consumer prices for beef and pork and adds that if the number of dead animals is higher than anticipated, the impact would be a 'blip,' which he declined to quantify.

'The human toll, it’s a tragedy,' Rodger said, referring to the billions of dollars in losses farmers and ranchers are dealing with. 'But in terms of the pocketbook of the average consumer, I don't seeing anything that would impact (it).'

Rabobank senior analyst Steve Nicholson agrees consumers will be unscathed."

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Hello Penny Preppers! You most assuredly are right, its a disaster still unfolding. It will effect your prices going out to eat just as fast as the grocery store and with 45 million illegal mouths to feed, you can imagine the possibilities. Ive already been out and bought new railroad ties to stack up and back fill with sod for planting. I have a short growing season here in the mountains it will have to be covered in case of hail but im piling lumber because I know whats coming, its a simple math equation.

Lets see, with food a plenty it cost me and one other person 34 dollars for a burger and fries at a restaurant, with a tip. Prices have already been steadily climbing for 3 years at least. What used to cost 28 dollars is now 34 dollars.


At the base of the entire totem pole though is the farmer and rancher in the same sinking ship. They too have been fighting prices of fuel cost of living and 60% have been struggling for the last eight years just to stay a float. suffering a catastrophic loss like what ive been seeing across the board has me hearing from thousands that they are done and cant recover. I call that real doom financially for many. Luck favors the prudent. Its even easy to grow food in an apartment setting if you know how. Ive read many comments on this thread about no significant threat and this southern boy says different.hayseedbattleflag
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So glad you are aware and telling people the facts. I suppose each of us has a small following and different folks believe different ones. I just hope a few believe each of us, adding to the numbers, small though they be, that are aware and preparing for what is just around the corner - and it's not much of a corner!

We are in deep trouble from so many directions - the leftists are hoping to take over after they get rid of us, is this correct? What are they going to be eating and driving and all? How will they do better than we? I'd prefer a good conservative steak to a well-prepared vegetable socialist dish!

Life is not what we knew it to be, already. Too many changes have assaulted "our" way of life. Now it is going to become much tougher just to survive. Anybody here know how to make shoes? My grandfather did. Could you plow a field with an ox? My grandfather could. Could you log from the forest with horses? My father did. Can I do those things? No. No need to teach me because life had become different, much easier. Right?

Fortunately, I know how to cook on a wood stove, make my own bread, grow my own vegetables and fruits and chickens and ducks. I know how to sew, to mend, to reinforce. I like that way of life - always did. However, space now is so much harder to acquire. I no longer live in a rural area, nor can afford even an old fixer-upper. Life changed that much in one lifetime.

What life will our grandchildren have? This worries me greatly. Hope it worries you, too.
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Im with you a 100% no one is promised tomorrow! The simple life has a certain charm to it when you watch the blind leading the blind.hf
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One way to cussion the blow is to stop putting ethanol in gasoline for a year.

And we have until fall harvest before we need to make that decision.

Our energy sector is doing fantastic!!!
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1,000,000 calves died, more flooding they say until May due to the gigantic amount of snow melt to come. Mississippi will over flow for weeks yet. Better stock up on a few things.
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People need to stop stating this 1 million number as fact. They don't even know the true number yet.

The "1 million" quote actually was first reported on March 19th in a Reuters article that I can't link, but this article confirms and contains the link:

Historic Midwest Flooding Has Devastating Consequences for Farmers

"U.S. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters that the governors of Nebraska and Iowa had told him that up to one million calves may have been killed, Reuters reported in another article."

[link to www.ecowatch.com (secure)]

The article says it is for both states, not just Nebraska.

In the Reuters article, Nebraska Agriculture Department Director Steve Wellman said there were no reliable numbers of animals lost to flooding in the paragraph directly following the quote from Perdue.

The most recent article I could find still is not giving us an actual number and it is from the 27th.

Livestock Losses Still Being Tallied in Nebraska

"Without solid numbers, it's hard to know the overall effect on Nebraska's beef cattle industry will be, or how it might affect things on a national scale."

[link to www.agweb.com (secure)]

I think it's a little reckless to get carried away until we have actual real numbers and we are still at the point of speculation right now. Not every cow in America was located in Nebraska. I am sure that not even all of Nebraska was completely under water.

To put things into perspective here, there are 94.759 million head in the entire country.

Ranking Of States With The Most Cattle

"The cattle inventory in the United States in 2019 is at 94.759 million head."

[link to beef2live.com (secure)]

I'm not saying that the cattle loss is not tragic, but I am also trying to bring some perspective here.
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Thread: WTF !! "As Many As A Million Calves Lost In Nebraska" – The worst agriculture DISASTER !! (Page 3)
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A new search I did just now on cattle deaths in Nebraska revealed this article from the 29th:

The Farm Belt faces an expensive cleanup after already-costly record flooding

"Of the total, damage to agriculture is estimated at about $900 million, including crops, land and livestock, according to Steve Nelson, president of the Nebraska Farm Bureau.

Nelson said farmers and ranchers in Nebraska lost hundreds of pigs and thousands of cattle, including calves
."

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] (Emphasis added).

My research a few days ago revealed that the actual numbers probably won't be fully known for some time. They have 30 days to report the losses:

"If you have suffered a loss of livestock, you need to report those losses to your FSA county office within 30 days of when those losses become apparent. This 30-day notification window is critical."

[link to www.fsa.usda.gov (secure)]

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Bullshit. The river bottoms where I live flood every single year, and they will be FULL of corn come August. I don't see how some flood water is so devastating when I watch floodland farmed every single year. Must be some type of difference?
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I wonder if there really is food scarcity, will it cause riots that will eventually lead to an all out civil war? Maybe if that happens we might see that Nebraska farmer general that eventually leads us to victory after all.
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PLENTY OF TIME TO REPLANT SPRING ISN'T EVEN HERE YET
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No there is not, with continued rain only high ground can be planted, look for a 50% loss in tillable land.
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PLENTY OF TIME TO REPLANT SPRING ISN'T EVEN HERE YET
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No there is not, with continued rain only high ground can be planted, look for a 50% loss in tillable land.
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People just don't understand that this isn't like when you lose your green bean crop in your garden.

Yes, there may be some hay that can be had, if the people have the equipment. But this isn't simple flood and drain that happen on a regular basis in flood plains. This is an ice rush ripping deluge that destroys the ground, which must be retilled and smoothed, ravines are not only difficult, but dangerous to operators of equipment.

Sadly, most people are just clueless. When the grain reserves were dispensed with, it out the US in easy danger for famine.

For myself, we're buying first cutting hay just to be sure we get some. And the garden is bigger, and we will be buying more staples including olive oil and dreadfully, shortening. Because there's nothing like food when you're hungry.

And also, it ain't over yet.

Two more months of flooding and then we'll see what the weather is like in general. I expect erratic temps similar to this winter. Up and down. Which is really hard on both plants and animals. And we raise all of our own meat, eggs and milk. Most of our veggies, and probably 25% of our fruit.

We will see. For sure. But Americans take plentiful food for granted, and food and fuel are not factored into the inflation index. Lol.
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One way to cussion the blow is to stop putting ethanol in gasoline for a year.

And we have until fall harvest before we need to make that decision.

Our energy sector is doing fantastic!!!
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Maybe we could stop the influx of "eaters" flooding the border, and start expelling the rest who have been hiding among us?
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People just don't understand that this isn't like when you lose your green bean crop in your garden.

Yes, there may be some hay that can be had, if the people have the equipment. But this isn't simple flood and drain that happen on a regular basis in flood plains. This is an ice rush ripping deluge that destroys the ground, which must be retilled and smoothed, ravines are not only difficult, but dangerous to operators of equipment.

Sadly, most people are just clueless. When the grain reserves were dispensed with, it out the US in easy danger for famine.

For myself, we're buying first cutting hay just to be sure we get some. And the garden is bigger, and we will be buying more staples including olive oil and dreadfully, shortening. Because there's nothing like food when you're hungry.

And also, it ain't over yet.

Two more months of flooding and then we'll see what the weather is like in general. I expect erratic temps similar to this winter. Up and down. Which is really hard on both plants and animals. And we raise all of our own meat, eggs and milk. Most of our veggies, and probably 25% of our fruit.

We will see. For sure. But Americans take plentiful food for granted, and food and fuel are not factored into the inflation index. Lol.
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Additionally, all the equipment that was flooded requires a great deal of work to be serviceable again, if possible - all the farming equipment.

All the top soil is gone, that the farmers had worked so hard to accumulate and enrich - though I say if any Monsanto product was used on it, good riddance - except for the fish in the river and everything where the river empties into the ocean.

Barns and silos will have to be repaired or replaced from water damage and flood movement.

Farmers intending to stay will have to first see to their own homes - flood damage - was the house moved on its foundation - huge problem. If it held still, all the drywall ripped out, wiring redone, flooring pulled out, appliances and cupboards and walls and siding and everything!

This isn't an overnight problem and won't have an overnight solution. Many farmers will quit now, because they were struggling so badly before this, and what a disheartening end to what may have been several generations of holding.

You are in great shape, Fluffy Pancakes, growing nearly everything of your own. You are far ahead of nearly all of us who do not have such a wonderful arrangement. Hard work, but so worthwhile!
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There you go.
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One way to cussion the blow is to stop putting ethanol in gasoline for a year.

And we have until fall harvest before we need to make that decision.

Our energy sector is doing fantastic!!!
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Maybe we could stop the influx of "eaters" flooding the border, and start expelling the rest who have been hiding among us?
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Surely would help, wouldn't it? And of course they get the best of everything, with a gazillion dollars in food stamps to spend freely. I'd be glad to have a portion of theirs!
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People just don't understand that this isn't like when you lose your green bean crop in your garden.

Yes, there may be some hay that can be had, if the people have the equipment. But this isn't simple flood and drain that happen on a regular basis in flood plains. This is an ice rush ripping deluge that destroys the ground, which must be retilled and smoothed, ravines are not only difficult, but dangerous to operators of equipment.

Sadly, most people are just clueless. When the grain reserves were dispensed with, it out the US in easy danger for famine.

For myself, we're buying first cutting hay just to be sure we get some. And the garden is bigger, and we will be buying more staples including olive oil and dreadfully, shortening. Because there's nothing like food when you're hungry.

And also, it ain't over yet.

Two more months of flooding and then we'll see what the weather is like in general. I expect erratic temps similar to this winter. Up and down. Which is really hard on both plants and animals. And we raise all of our own meat, eggs and milk. Most of our veggies, and probably 25% of our fruit.

We will see. For sure. But Americans take plentiful food for granted, and food and fuel are not factored into the inflation index. Lol.
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Additionally, all the equipment that was flooded requires a great deal of work to be serviceable again, if possible - all the farming equipment.

All the top soil is gone, that the farmers had worked so hard to accumulate and enrich - though I say if any Monsanto product was used on it, good riddance - except for the fish in the river and everything where the river empties into the ocean.

Barns and silos will have to be repaired or replaced from water damage and flood movement.

Farmers intending to stay will have to first see to their own homes - flood damage - was the house moved on its foundation - huge problem. If it held still, all the drywall ripped out, wiring redone, flooring pulled out, appliances and cupboards and walls and siding and everything!

This isn't an overnight problem and won't have an overnight solution. Many farmers will quit now, because they were struggling so badly before this, and what a disheartening end to what may have been several generations of holding.

You are in great shape, Fluffy Pancakes, growing nearly everything of your own. You are far ahead of nearly all of us who do not have such a wonderful arrangement. Hard work, but so worthwhile!
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We still buy feed, flour and many staples, so we are NOT self sufficient. We could live if we can grow things, but we'd get very thin. I don't want anyone to think we're set up entirely and would be unaffected. Because we most certainly will be affected.
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04/01/2019 04:50 PM

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Re: More than 1 million acres of U.S. cropland ravaged by flood, DOOM for economy unless...?
We still buy feed, flour and many staples, so we are NOT self sufficient. We could live if we can grow things, but we'd get very thin. I don't want anyone to think we're set up entirely and would be unaffected. Because we most certainly will be affected.
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04/01/2019 04:53 PM
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Re: More than 1 million acres of U.S. cropland ravaged by flood, DOOM for economy unless...?
SHIT, MY FOOD STAMPS GOT WET!