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Message Subject More than 1 million acres of U.S. cropland ravaged by flood, DOOM for economy unless...?
Poster Handle Timur2020
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I am LDS
We have two years of food storage
Plus we do a lot of other things right

Instead of complaining think about what you can do.

Here is an easy way to start

I buy Burpee seeds or cheaper way find someone near you that collects heirloom seeds and use those.

I buy the Jiffy 72 pod planters at Walmart. They are 6 dollars and 80 cents. They make seed planting easier. Not cheap but easy.

I buy jiffy moisture control soil. Not cheap but you only water once every two weeks. Once seedlings are too big for the pods move them into gallon buckets. You can move these easier if it gets too cold outside.

Once I plant I reuse the buckets and trays from the pods.

This is not the cheapest way but rather the easiest way. Like if you want to learn to garden but have a job and not a lot of time.

If it is still cold in your area you will need to keep your plants inside with artificial lights until they can go outside.

This is going to be necessary for everyone as no doubt food prices will go up. And up. And up.
 Quoting: OrdinaryHousewife

We do the same type ^^^^^^ things and its the only way we get some really good stuff that is high on the market or coming from china or hot spot.
Families need to think about and coordinate thier efforts - that was once common. What's wierd is the idea of anything different. People do better producing and trading with each other as a group, than community gardens that aren't secured. Some farms secure a garden and people work for the discount. The successful and healthy ones are all making ways and means in thier area and while shipping lasts. Example of a simple thing to do: goji berries, contaminated from china $35lb; American grown $135lb until more people have rows of em. The crop conversions set the market high and until people catch up the price doesn't go down much.

So what, just a bunch of farmers and ranchers looking for free handouts. Screw em, wait until next year. If you can't make ends meet, move to Mexico.


Farmers and ranchers were the first ones to bring in truckload after truckload of illegal aliens. They've been doing this for decade after decade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76105623

You have all farms in that muddied puddle and where else are they going to get food and trade crops?
Flyover farmers were not in that until barry and bus services provided. The Mega ones were like Tyson, who was always getting raided because it was easier to catch them there than where they were hid spread out.
Family farms are what is needed and crop subsidies (handouts) ARE abused....by Mega fkrs who make money no matter what happens and couldn't care less. You don't want to cut out the family farm and since they aren't professional corporate criminals, they really do have to have titles of equipment damaged and receipts of losses shown in black and white, as well as previous seasons records where adjusted crop start figures come from.

You describe the criminals and Megas they won't do anything about.

The point is the ones that can go right back to carrying US on thier back, everybody eating better and not $10 white bread.

I agree that its a perfect time for a policy shift to just not re-start megas and focus on the huge number of family farms, farm associations and the smaller regional producers who don't use hell machines because unless you are hell machine level its not cost effective. They are bigger versions of family methods.

I am sure plenty will do gmo too, meaning all who don't, have everything sold before they even plant it and bids on the next.

Crop futures would seem a good thing to be in because if they crash the money you still own eating.
 
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