More than 1 million acres of U.S. cropland ravaged by flood, DOOM for economy unless...? | |
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Timur2020 User ID: 72890005 United States 03/31/2019 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless they take some of that money and bring back the American farmer? Thier farms are horror movies and first they flood em, then lock em in the barns to drown. Not the whole countrys cattle in 3 horrific places, all over the country the way they used to be. Same with the onions and potatos. More people get more quality food and have regional resources. I'd love to have the budget to go full tilt now on a 5 year expansion strategy. But.....last time, the gov went to farms, destroyed thier crop and told em if they replant, they are interfering in interstate commerce and they would sieze everything. They still do it quietly, being the muscle that creates excuses to enforce the corporate farm only. Plant your gardens and collect cases of quart and pint jars. Get extra flats and rings now. I have to do carrots and potatos this week before they go on me. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
OrdinaryHousewife User ID: 76946232 United States 03/31/2019 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am LDS We have two years of food storage Plus we do a lot of other things right Instead of complaining think about what you can do. Here is an easy way to start I buy Burpee seeds or cheaper way find someone near you that collects heirloom seeds and use those. I buy the Jiffy 72 pod planters at Walmart. They are 6 dollars and 80 cents. They make seed planting easier. Not cheap but easy. I buy jiffy moisture control soil. Not cheap but you only water once every two weeks. Once seedlings are too big for the pods move them into gallon buckets. You can move these easier if it gets too cold outside. Once I plant I reuse the buckets and trays from the pods. This is not the cheapest way but rather the easiest way. Like if you want to learn to garden but have a job and not a lot of time. If it is still cold in your area you will need to keep your plants inside with artificial lights until they can go outside. This is going to be necessary for everyone as no doubt food prices will go up. And up. And up. the wise shall shine brightly like the splendor of the firmament, and those who lead the many to justice shall be like the stars forever. When she shall die take her and cut her into stars and she shall make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76105623 United States 03/31/2019 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what, just a bunch of farmers and ranchers looking for free handouts. Screw em, wait until next year. If you can't make ends meet, move to Mexico. Farmers and ranchers were the first ones to bring in truckload after truckload of illegal aliens. They've been doing this for decade after decade. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77507280 United States 03/31/2019 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73848670 At least 1 million acres (405,000 hectares) of U.S. farmland were flooded after the "bomb cyclone" storm left wide swaths of nine major grain producing states under water this month, satellite data analyzed by Gro Intelligence for Reuters showed. Farms from the Dakotas to Missouri and beyond have been under water for a week or more, possibly impeding planting and damaging soil. The floods, which came just weeks before planting season starts in the Midwest, will likely reduce corn, wheat and soy production this year. "There's thousands of acres that won't be able to be planted," Ryan Sonderup, 36, of Fullerton, Nebraska, who has been farming for 18 years, said in a recent interview. Good,,, Washed away all the glysophate off the land. |
Fluffy Pancakes User ID: 48000113 United States 03/31/2019 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have completely missed the severity of this situation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439966 Think food is expensive now?? Just wait until fall If there is one.... This is the point of the whole thread. No matter what this will drive food prices of all sorts. Yep. ALL food prices. The one million calves isn't even all of it. My friend that moved here from Nebraska told me her friend's cattle are now losing their skin from being stuck in the freezing water. Many of them are basically being skinned alive. And they aren't able to live through the ordeal. Also many hay fields have 20 foot high mile long mountains of ice in them assuring that they cannot be harvesting hay this year. It is not good, and tbh, with the magnetic pole shift, I expect more disasters to occur. While I detest GMO's probably more than most people, not everyone in NE is growing GMO feed or food. It's going to get ugly. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
TXGLP2 User ID: 76819314 United States 03/31/2019 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just start growing. On the cheap, look up DIY planters. Freeze leftover seeds. My garden this year is less pitiful than last year, but it's getting a lot more attention, those seedlings. Companion planting. Moon planting. Do it all up right and have a meatless meal day once a week as necessary - pizza works well there, so do fried cauliflower patties. Yum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77513744 Canada 03/31/2019 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have completely missed the severity of this situation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77439966 Think food is expensive now?? Just wait until fall If there is one.... This is the point of the whole thread. No matter what this will drive food prices of all sorts. Yep. ALL food prices. The one million calves isn't even all of it. My friend that moved here from Nebraska told me her friend's cattle are now losing their skin from being stuck in the freezing water. Many of them are basically being skinned alive. And they aren't able to live through the ordeal. Also many hay fields have 20 foot high mile long mountains of ice in them assuring that they cannot be harvesting hay this year. It is not good, and tbh, with the magnetic pole shift, I expect more disasters to occur. While I detest GMO's probably more than most people, not everyone in NE is growing GMO feed or food. It's going to get ugly. More likely that the cattle are losing their skin due to chemical burns from all the crap in the soil. Poor cows! |
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Timur2020 User ID: 72510231 United States 03/31/2019 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am LDS Quoting: OrdinaryHousewife We have two years of food storage Plus we do a lot of other things right Instead of complaining think about what you can do. Here is an easy way to start I buy Burpee seeds or cheaper way find someone near you that collects heirloom seeds and use those. I buy the Jiffy 72 pod planters at Walmart. They are 6 dollars and 80 cents. They make seed planting easier. Not cheap but easy. I buy jiffy moisture control soil. Not cheap but you only water once every two weeks. Once seedlings are too big for the pods move them into gallon buckets. You can move these easier if it gets too cold outside. Once I plant I reuse the buckets and trays from the pods. This is not the cheapest way but rather the easiest way. Like if you want to learn to garden but have a job and not a lot of time. If it is still cold in your area you will need to keep your plants inside with artificial lights until they can go outside. This is going to be necessary for everyone as no doubt food prices will go up. And up. And up. We do the same type ^^^^^^ things and its the only way we get some really good stuff that is high on the market or coming from china or hot spot. Families need to think about and coordinate thier efforts - that was once common. What's wierd is the idea of anything different. People do better producing and trading with each other as a group, than community gardens that aren't secured. Some farms secure a garden and people work for the discount. The successful and healthy ones are all making ways and means in thier area and while shipping lasts. Example of a simple thing to do: goji berries, contaminated from china $35lb; American grown $135lb until more people have rows of em. The crop conversions set the market high and until people catch up the price doesn't go down much. So what, just a bunch of farmers and ranchers looking for free handouts. Screw em, wait until next year. If you can't make ends meet, move to Mexico. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76105623 Farmers and ranchers were the first ones to bring in truckload after truckload of illegal aliens. They've been doing this for decade after decade. You have all farms in that muddied puddle and where else are they going to get food and trade crops? Flyover farmers were not in that until barry and bus services provided. The Mega ones were like Tyson, who was always getting raided because it was easier to catch them there than where they were hid spread out. Family farms are what is needed and crop subsidies (handouts) ARE abused....by Mega fkrs who make money no matter what happens and couldn't care less. You don't want to cut out the family farm and since they aren't professional corporate criminals, they really do have to have titles of equipment damaged and receipts of losses shown in black and white, as well as previous seasons records where adjusted crop start figures come from. You describe the criminals and Megas they won't do anything about. The point is the ones that can go right back to carrying US on thier back, everybody eating better and not $10 white bread. I agree that its a perfect time for a policy shift to just not re-start megas and focus on the huge number of family farms, farm associations and the smaller regional producers who don't use hell machines because unless you are hell machine level its not cost effective. They are bigger versions of family methods. I am sure plenty will do gmo too, meaning all who don't, have everything sold before they even plant it and bids on the next. Crop futures would seem a good thing to be in because if they crash the money you still own eating. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77473530 United States 03/31/2019 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the local farmer state? It will take a couple years to reclaim the land for planting again. If your entire yard/acreage/farm flooded, would you have quick access to functional machinery and viable seed, to immediately plant as soon as the floodwaters subside? "Jake" isn't known for intelligent commentary. |
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~Bodhi User ID: 77510054 United States 03/31/2019 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~Ideas: Each State identify their amount of land that can be planted with minimal preparation (see Permaculture) in the next 30 days. Also empty factories can be turned into hydroponic planting facilities. Employ local people, oversee with experienced farmers. Do not contract out to Corporations, as you will lose the opportunity to stimulate the local economy. Use Fema "coffins" as raised planter beds and hook up watering system. Fund this with emergency funds directly to state, to people in state. We have a whole Country, and we need to work together on big issues. Enough people are adapting to a more plant based diet to support this. Farmers can change their crop according to need. Hemp - plant Hemp in place of Ethanol. (and about 100 other things.) Feed Chickens hemp seed, this will give the proper ratio of Cannabinoids to Humans and greatly increase the Countries Health. Try to Build as many greenhouses on a large scale as possible, as future weather will not be easing up for a while. Give Federal (Bank) loans to anyone (reasonably) who wants to farm. The only reason we outsourced in the mid 1900's was because our land lacked the ability to provide nourishing food. This was the report that spawned the trading with other countries. Since then - we have learned amazing tecniques. Add a compost bin to the normal garbage route. |
~Bodhi User ID: 77510054 United States 03/31/2019 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~Ideas: Each State identify their amount of land that can be planted with minimal preparation (see Permaculture) in the next 30 days. Also empty factories can be turned into hydroponic planting facilities. Employ local people, oversee with experienced farmers. Do not contract out to Corporations, as you will lose the opportunity to stimulate the local economy. Use Fema "coffins" as raised planter beds and hook up watering system. Fund this with emergency funds directly to state, to people in state. We have a whole Country, and we need to work together on big issues. Enough people are adapting to a more plant based diet to support this. Farmers can change their crop according to need. Hemp - plant Hemp in place of Ethanol. (and about 100 other things.) Feed Chickens hemp seed, this will give the proper ratio of Cannabinoids to Humans and greatly increase the Countries Health. Try to Build as many greenhouses on a large scale as possible, as future weather will not be easing up for a while. Give Federal (Bank) loans to anyone (reasonably) who wants to farm. The only reason we outsourced in the mid 1900's was because our land lacked the ability to provide nourishing food. This was the report that spawned the trading with other countries. Since then - we have learned amazing tecniques. Add a compost bin to the normal garbage route. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77489703 United States 03/31/2019 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a cover story for the coming dollar devaluation. Almost all prices go up when the currency is devalued. A few million acres is nothing compared to the actual farm land on this landmass. Therefore you have to ask - what are they conditioning us to in advance? Currency devaluation. |
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Patriot_In_Waiting User ID: 77035911 United States 03/31/2019 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73848670 At least 1 million acres (405,000 hectares) of U.S. farmland were flooded after the "bomb cyclone" storm left wide swaths of nine major grain producing states under water this month, satellite data analyzed by Gro Intelligence for Reuters showed. Farms from the Dakotas to Missouri and beyond have been under water for a week or more, possibly impeding planting and damaging soil. The floods, which came just weeks before planting season starts in the Midwest, will likely reduce corn, wheat and soy production this year. "There's thousands of acres that won't be able to be planted," Ryan Sonderup, 36, of Fullerton, Nebraska, who has been farming for 18 years, said in a recent interview. What if, in an effort to bolster their crops in the wake of the floods..... The President makes an Experimental “Green New Deal “ Where the farmers get a trial approval from the Government to grow Marijuana to sell to the Government, for testing from FDA for medical evaluation and testing to prove the value as a medical treatment, also for Law Enforcement to evaluate enforcement (safe driving levels etc.) before the push to decriminalize Nationally. This would do a number of things, Like Force the Left To Support The President on something that they’ve been pushing already as supposed supporters of marijuana legalization. Also a way to financially prevent disaster for the Farmers as well as US Economic damage from the floods which were horrible and loss of a million heads of cattle.etc. All while bringing the Government’s ability to research the marijuana Medical testing and law enforcement testing giving true research which has been restricted for years. And bringing the country together under the interest of legalization by both sides of the political divide in the United States.. This would be the ULTIMATE WIN for President Trump Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19996951 United States 03/31/2019 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG! Can't plant GMO corn?! Oh the tragedy. Quoting: JanJan I feel sorry for the small farmers, but most of those are large industrial farms planting soy and corn - don't feel sorry for them. Also, I don't eat the shit that corn and soy gets turned into Woe is you. who do you think is eating that corn? The cows that are now dead. |
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Penny Peppers User ID: 76556546 Mexico 03/31/2019 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stock up while you can... There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
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Penny Peppers User ID: 76556546 Mexico 03/31/2019 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ITS JUST THE BEGINNING Quoting: Watchout Thread: NOAA Warns Of Historic Flooding in May, 200 Million At Risk, Food Price to Skyrocket / UPDATE :Its starting P3 Prices have already gone up so much for food stuffs, if they go much higher, it's going to be a problem. There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
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