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HPV Vaccine Knocking Out Cervical Disease

 
Reality420  (OP)

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04/04/2019 10:36 PM
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Readers will note that all of the responses to my OP have been fact-free anti-vaccine opinion and bare assertions.
It all amounts to the anti-vaccine version of stamping their feet and calling me a "Big Poopyhead!!!!!!11!!!"
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In many respects the anti-vaccine loons resemble the flat earth wackos which is understandable considering their common anti-science position.
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Get your children vaccinated and yourself as well if you qualify.
That way in 30 years when you are in a nursing home your middle aged daughter won't come to you to tell you she is dying of cervical cancer and thanks for not having her vaccinated.
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Do not get your science/medical information from anonymous conspiracy loons on teh internet. These people cannot pass a 4rth grade science and math exam so why in the world would you trust the health of your children to their insane rantings?
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Get your science/medical advice from your physician and recognised experts in the field.

Have fun and stay safe.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420


"Get your science/medical advice from your physician and recognised experts in the field."

Even experts can get it wrong.

Thread: Vaccine maladministration. Parents DYODD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76463126

No kidding.
Doctors and nurses make mistakes and it is wise to know which vaccine is scheduled and its administration route.
It is also wise to know which leg they need to amputate to save your life so they don't take the other...
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All this does not impugn the procedures of vaccination or surgery... it impugns the competence of the practitioners.
The value of vaccines and surgery are unchanged by the idiotic mistakes made by the providers.
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That is the point you were trying to make, wasn't it, AC76463126?


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04/04/2019 11:04 PM
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Sheri Plugnickle is a kook and her vaxxter site is a crackpot kooksite.
Get your medical info from credible sources not some grifting drooling moran.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I see you disregarding people's comments for lack of evidence and then when evidence is provided to you you disregard it as fake without providing evidence to back up your claims.

That hypocrisy in itself discredits you completely.

You may as well stop posting, you have zero credibility after that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77353675

What "evidence is provided to" me, AC77353675?
I've seen none, just bare assertions and citations to sites that say the opposite to what the anti-vaccinationist thinks they say.
The squalene citation was to an article that explained what it was and in no way said it was dangerous. That part came from the ignorant paranoid delusions of the person who provided the cite.
LittleMiss's cite said the exact opposite of what she was contending and when challenged to point out where it backed her she resorted to a seried of fact-free attack posts but never provided a cite that backed her statements...
As I predicted.
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If you think you have any evidence that contradicts the OP please provide the high quality citations. Your uneducated opinion is worthless in science.
Proceed.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I believe another poster commented about the Corvelva studies which are currently under attack from all mainstream sources.

I'm sure you will cite some pro-pharma propaganda website in an attempt to discredit it. The fact of the matter is, anything I provide to you you will call fake and then you will throw some overused mainstream articles from very compromised bureaucratic sources.

Maybe a good source for you to look at is the vaccine inserts themselves that come directly from the manufacturer. You will have to ask your doctor to obtain them, they don't have them on hand (weird). In them they state possible complications, what vaccines cannot be taken with other vaccines (somehow this is overlooked as the government schedules state otherwise) what age is suggested (again, the government schedule has determined otherwise) and how not following the inserts recommendations can cause complications; and then we don't.

You can also look towards the American Vaccine Court which has paid out over 4 billion dollars (at taxpayers expense) towards vaccine injury. That means that millions of people have won their cases, proving that in an outstandingly large amount of cases, vaccines have caused horrible injury. Roundup only needed 2 losses before people started pulling it off their shelves (see Costco dumps Roundup after Bayer loses 2nd court case). How many people's lives have been saved from vaccines compared to injured? We will never know because they wont test them with a double blind placebo controlled study! Even if the control group is volunteered.

The sheer concept that the pharmaceutical industry has lobbied the government and made it so they are not liable for injury caused by their untested products (vaccines are not magic, they are simply products) just shows guilt. For the most part, they are manufactured in China, the same country with near zero regulation who brought you led paint on your children's toys. Yum, shoot up.

The fact that you defending the HPV vaccine is laughable. It is by far the worst one on the market today with countless recorded injuries in young girls.

Anyways, I'm sure the state funded British Medical Journal study is completely accurate with zero data dumping to form a narrative (lol). Since you will most certainly call the Corvela study fake, I will call your BMJ study greasy. I will need some more time to thoroughly dig into the research paper you provided and find it's holes which I most certainly will as I always do in these studies that show the "miracles" of vaccines. I'm sure you can appreciate my need for that.

I didn't need to provide you with any links. I provided you with logic that any reasonable person could understand. You will argue against it, however, you will just make a fool out of yourself because what I have stated cannot be defended.

Goodnight.
Reality420  (OP)

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04/04/2019 11:15 PM
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Re: HPV Vaccine Knocking Out Cervical Disease
Sheri Plugnickle is a kook and her vaxxter site is a crackpot kooksite.
Get your medical info from credible sources not some grifting drooling moran.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I see you disregarding people's comments for lack of evidence and then when evidence is provided to you you disregard it as fake without providing evidence to back up your claims.

That hypocrisy in itself discredits you completely.

You may as well stop posting, you have zero credibility after that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77353675

What "evidence is provided to" me, AC77353675?
I've seen none, just bare assertions and citations to sites that say the opposite to what the anti-vaccinationist thinks they say.
The squalene citation was to an article that explained what it was and in no way said it was dangerous. That part came from the ignorant paranoid delusions of the person who provided the cite.
LittleMiss's cite said the exact opposite of what she was contending and when challenged to point out where it backed her she resorted to a seried of fact-free attack posts but never provided a cite that backed her statements...
As I predicted.
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If you think you have any evidence that contradicts the OP please provide the high quality citations. Your uneducated opinion is worthless in science.
Proceed.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I believe another poster commented about the Corvelva studies which are currently under attack from all mainstream sources.

I'm sure you will cite some pro-pharma propaganda website in an attempt to discredit it. The fact of the matter is, anything I provide to you you will call fake and then you will throw some overused mainstream articles from very compromised bureaucratic sources.

Maybe a good source for you to look at is the vaccine inserts themselves that come directly from the manufacturer. You will have to ask your doctor to obtain them, they don't have them on hand (weird). In them they state possible complications, what vaccines cannot be taken with other vaccines (somehow this is overlooked as the government schedules state otherwise) what age is suggested (again, the government schedule has determined otherwise) and how not following the inserts recommendations can cause complications; and then we don't.

You can also look towards the American Vaccine Court which has paid out over 4 billion dollars (at taxpayers expense) towards vaccine injury. That means that millions of people have won their cases, proving that in an outstandingly large amount of cases, vaccines have caused horrible injury. Roundup only needed 2 losses before people started pulling it off their shelves (see Costco dumps Roundup after Bayer loses 2nd court case). How many people's lives have been saved from vaccines compared to injured? We will never know because they wont test them with a double blind placebo controlled study! Even if the control group is volunteered.

The sheer concept that the pharmaceutical industry has lobbied the government and made it so they are not liable for injury caused by their untested products (vaccines are not magic, they are simply products) just shows guilt. For the most part, they are manufactured in China, the same country with near zero regulation who brought you led paint on your children's toys. Yum, shoot up.

The fact that you defending the HPV vaccine is laughable. It is by far the worst one on the market today with countless recorded injuries in young girls.

Anyways, I'm sure the state funded British Medical Journal study is completely accurate with zero data dumping to form a narrative (lol). Since you will most certainly call the Corvela study fake, I will call your BMJ study greasy. I will need some more time to thoroughly dig into the research paper you provided and find it's holes which I most certainly will as I always do in these studies that show the "miracles" of vaccines. I'm sure you can appreciate my need for that.

I didn't need to provide you with any links. I provided you with logic that any reasonable person could understand. You will argue against it, however, you will just make a fool out of yourself because what I have stated cannot be defended.

Goodnight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77353675

Are you functionally illiterate?

Already addressed the frauds Antonietta Gatti and her husband and their electron microscope.
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What part of "no controls" and "no blanks" did you not understand?
That "research" would garner them a big fat F- at university in their freshman year.
It is a joke which is why you are defending it... because faux "research" is all the anti-vaccine loons have.


R.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
— Thomas Jefferson

Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action.
— Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Re: HPV Vaccine Knocking Out Cervical Disease
Reality420 is one smart man and knows what he's talking about you all need to listen to him you could learn a lot from him and listening to him could save your life and many millions of others lives. Even if you don't care about protecting yourself and saving your own life listen to Reality420 to protect others and save others lives don't endanger and kill many millions of people by being a stupid selfish heartless racist sheep and Karen!
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[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

"HPV rates tumble after routine vaccination
HPV immunisation of 12 and 13-year-old girls has led to 89% decline in disease in Scotland, data reveals

A new study in the British Medical Journal has found a huge drop in the proportions of vaccinated women aged 20 detected at screening with cervical disease – the abnormal cells and lesions that are the precursor of cancer.

The researchers found an 89% drop in the numbers of those with the most severe levels of disease, called cervical intraepithelial neoplasia or CIN.
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There was a bigger decline in disease among those vaccinated at the age of 12 or 13 (89%) than in those vaccinated at 17 (51%).
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But there was also a drop in the levels of disease among women who have not been vaccinated, which suggests a “herd immunity” effect, say the authors – because there has been less HPV virus in the community.
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But in the long term, it may be that “two or three screens in a lifetime using HPV testing might be sufficient,” the paper said. “Ultimately, the clinical and economic rationale for cervical screening will need to be reviewed.”"

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130,000 women screened.
Note the 89% drop in pre-cancerous CIN3 or greater cells indicating a similar drop can be expected in cervical cancers.
Note also that there was an unexplained drop in cervical disease (CIN) in unvaccinated women indicating that herd immunity is taking effect.
Overall this is more very good news for women and for everyone.
At some point in the future we may see cervical cancer become almost unknown across the world.
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Cervical cancer was once (pre 1950) a leading cause of death for US women but with the introduction of the Pap smear, which tests for CIN cells as done in this study, it has fallen to 14th place killing ~ 4,000 US women each year.
Cervical cancer kills ~ 300,000 women each year in the world.
[link to report.nih.gov (secure)]
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Another article:
[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
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The actual paper:
[link to www.bmj.com (secure)]
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I think most sane women would agree that a world where having constant Pap smears and then having ablative or loop treatments or hysterectomies due to pre cancerous cells/cervical cancer and sweating out the rest of your life is something "devoutly to be wished".
Get your kids vaccinated and yourself if you qualify... it is an anti-cancer vaccine.

Have fun and stay safe.
R.
 Quoting: Reality420


I have another suggestion. Gen Z is not having sex and spreading disease. Probably due to digital brain atrophy. The gay matter involved in planning, is not working like it use too . Thus no one plans meets up in person nore stay off line long enough to get horny by touch anymore. So, i would not give the vaccine much credit.





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