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The US should apologize to Europe for still having military bases there 75 years after WWII.

 
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It’s time the EU pays us to protect them.

The OP is clueless, we had to be there because the EU refuses to protect themselves. This has been true for the last 75 years.
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Or maybe having an outside protector for 75 years removed the reason to learn to "protect themselves?"
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Yep, there is such a thing as "killing with kindness."
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Europe should be on their knees thanking us for ever for the 750k American men that died in their nations, fighting 2 wars.

But, before you quote me for a rebuttal, I want all US foreign military bases closed down. It's insane to think we have military bases all over the world that we pay for, and get nothing in return. Yeah, sure, the elites get something in return but it is we that are paying for it.

Shut them all down. Bring all the boys home and put them on the borders, as they should be.
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Agreed. However, it has been damaging to Europe as well. 3-4 generations have lived under direct US protection so they do not really know how to defend their own countries anymore. That is why we see them being overrun with "immigrants."
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Immigrants that NATO member Turkey pushed into Europe...
Thanks NATO... you pieces of shits.
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Who the hell wants Nato?
I know of no one but globalists that want Nato, it's a globalist enforcement gang, a bunch of crooks and feggits.
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Odd way of saying it considering the financial costs but I do see the validity of the other points made here. Everything from the endless "babysitting" on one hand to the "occupying forces" on the other. Overall, I think it is time to withdraw US forces from WWII countries and end NATO. The reasons for NATO no longer exist and it is really just an excuse to keep the US military there forever.
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Nato is there to ensure heroin flows smoothly into Europe via Nato muslimstates Kosovo, Albania and Bosnia.

Nato are terrorists and gangsters.
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Odd way of saying it considering the financial costs but I do see the validity of the other points made here. Everything from the endless "babysitting" on one hand to the "occupying forces" on the other. Overall, I think it is time to withdraw US forces from WWII countries and end NATO. The reasons for NATO no longer exist and it is really just an excuse to keep the US military there forever.
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The "financial costs" and "free defense" is now being overtaken by the "occupying forces" argument.

75 years is much too long to keep entire Armies in someone elses country and still expect them to learn how to defend themselves. We see it now that Europe seems unable to defend itself from invading hordes of immigrants.
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In 75 years euros have gone soft head dimi femmi and are trying to poison US with communism too. We will need the bases to blow up all thier orcs, goblins and libtard strongholds before we give them to the English, Scottish and Irish to keep white supremacy Europe secure after the crusade.
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In 75 years euros have gone soft head dimi femmi and are trying to poison US with communism too. We will need the bases to blow up all thier orcs, goblins and libtard strongholds before we give them to the English, Scottish and Irish to keep white supremacy Europe secure after the crusade.
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75 years of not having to fund a military or worry about defending yourselves is what allowed Euorpe to spend all of its money on liberal socialists policies that would never work if they had to pay for their own defense. So who is really to blame that they have turned into soft liberals?
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After 75 years Europe should apologize to us for whining all the time like they think we shoul give a shit. They know what the score is and unless they want us to add another one theyll stfu. Europe tried to use us as their own personal military for NATO and themselves thinking they were playing our ego and we took advantage of it.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.
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So you like paying for another continents defense? Forever.
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Last I looked these countries are not exactly that friendly to us anymore. So I like paying to keep my thumb on them.
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" Power projection: they get "protection" under our "wing"; We get forward basing of aircraft, tanks, ships and support equipment and people.


Having served "over there" I think we should bring every body home especially our people in theshitholes of Afghanistan and Iraq fuck'em .Leave the 7th century goat(&boy) fucking warlords to themselves.
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After 75 years Europe should apologize to us for whining all the time like they think we shoul give a shit. They know what the score is and unless they want us to add another one theyll stfu. Europe tried to use us as their own personal military for NATO and themselves thinking they were playing our ego and we took advantage of it.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.
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So you like paying for another continents defense? Forever.
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Last I looked these countries are not exactly that friendly to us anymore. So I like paying to keep my thumb on them.
 Quoting: Merit


" Power projection: they get "protection" under our "wing"; We get forward basing of aircraft, tanks, ships and support equipment and people.


Having served "over there" I think we should bring every body home especially our people in theshitholes of Afghanistan and Iraq fuck'em .Leave the 7th century goat(&boy) fucking warlords to themselves.
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Agreed but we are discussing WWII countries from 75 years ago.
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I don't really care about the US bases. I love Americans. I don't want EU army and NATO has got to go too. Especially those pesky Eastern European countries that where promised a full nuking of what was left of Russia if the Russians stepped out of line.
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I don't really care about the US bases. I love Americans. I don't want EU army and NATO has got to go too. Especially those pesky Eastern European countries that where promised a full nuking of what was left of Russia if the Russians stepped out of line.
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So you "dont care about US bases" but dont like NATO. Probably because the US taxpayers pay for ALL the US bases that protect you and also pay for most of NATO.

And you are also happy for the US taxpayers to pay for the nukes that Europeans want to use against Russia if necessary.

I am seeing a pattern here, you like the US paying for everything but dont want Europe involved in the paying end. LOL.
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So you like paying for another continents defense? Forever.
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Last I looked these countries are not exactly that friendly to us anymore. So I like paying to keep my thumb on them.
 Quoting: Merit


" Power projection: they get "protection" under our "wing"; We get forward basing of aircraft, tanks, ships and support equipment and people.


Having served "over there" I think we should bring every body home especially our people in theshitholes of Afghanistan and Iraq fuck'em .Leave the 7th century goat(&boy) fucking warlords to themselves.
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Agreed but we are discussing WWII countries from 75 years ago.
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Nothing good comes from leaving occupying forces in foreign countries for so long. It is only the ego manic politicians and Generals who like that, not the citizens.
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I don't really care about the US bases. I love Americans. I don't want EU army and NATO has got to go too. Especially those pesky Eastern European countries that where promised a full nuking of what was left of Russia if the Russians stepped out of line.
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go eat a dick, an eastern European one and then after you can lick some ass...american one ;)
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In 75 years euros have gone soft head dimi femmi and are trying to poison US with communism too. We will need the bases to blow up all thier orcs, goblins and libtard strongholds before we give them to the English, Scottish and Irish to keep white supremacy Europe secure after the crusade.
 Quoting: Timur2020


75 years of not having to fund a military or worry about defending yourselves is what allowed Euorpe to spend all of its money on liberal socialists policies that would never work if they had to pay for their own defense. So who is really to blame that they have turned into soft liberals?
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What?
This is the US?
You know what we tell libtards who pull the "you made me be lousy!" ? Nobody made them take the bait and nobody makes them continue to?

Thats the double edge of freedom; free to make ones self a complete wreckage of stinking offal if they must.

The ones that get priority are the ones who kept thier selves better and strive to make it work.
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In 75 years euros have gone soft head dimi femmi and are trying to poison US with communism too. We will need the bases to blow up all thier orcs, goblins and libtard strongholds before we give them to the English, Scottish and Irish to keep white supremacy Europe secure after the crusade.
 Quoting: Timur2020


75 years of not having to fund a military or worry about defending yourselves is what allowed Euorpe to spend all of its money on liberal socialists policies that would never work if they had to pay for their own defense. So who is really to blame that they have turned into soft liberals?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77512185


What?
This is the US?
You know what we tell libtards who pull the "you made me be lousy!" ? Nobody made them take the bait and nobody makes them continue to?

Thats the double edge of freedom; free to make ones self a complete wreckage of stinking offal if they must.

The ones that get priority are the ones who kept thier selves better and strive to make it work.
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So you have no problem with keeping entire US Armies in foreign countries for 75 years and longer? Interesting.
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I don't really care about the US bases. I love Americans. I don't want EU army and NATO has got to go too. Especially those pesky Eastern European countries that where promised a full nuking of what was left of Russia if the Russians stepped out of line.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66285793


So you "dont care about US bases" but dont like NATO. Probably because the US taxpayers pay for ALL the US bases that protect you and also pay for most of NATO.

And you are also happy for the US taxpayers to pay for the nukes that Europeans want to use against Russia if necessary.

I am seeing a pattern here, you like the US paying for everything but dont want Europe involved in the paying end. LOL.
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Yes, he sounds like he is for any kind of defense that he doesnt have to take part in or pay for. chuckle
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We are so sorry we kept the Soviet Union away
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We are there to contain Germany. It was Germany that has been the aggressor for the past century.

If they unite with Russia in a rapprochment then Europe is screwed. So we are there to keep them sorted and in their own playgrounds. And to keep them as enemies of each other.

History shows that 75 years of German occupation is not nearly enough. Look what happened the last time we went home.
They have proven to need a very long term babysitter.

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OK, I'll start, "Sorry"....No more soup for you..
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We are so sorry we kept the Soviet Union away
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We are there to contain Germany. It was Germany that has been the aggressor for the past century.

If they unite with Russia in a rapprochment then Europe is screwed. So we are there to keep them sorted and in their own playgrounds. And to keep them as enemies of each other.

History shows that 75 years of German occupation is not nearly enough. Look what happened the last time we went home.
They have proven to need a very long term babysitter.
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And do you care what the Germans think of that?
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Most of those bases have saved those nations the necessity of building their own armies, navies and air defense forces. We should be getting paid for keeping their nations secure and eliminating the necessity of them paying for it themselves!

You must be a brain-dead millennial - no one else could be this uninformed and totally unaware of history. Those bases have been asked for and various nations have begged for them to remain when the US tried to close the major bases many years back!

Learn the facts before you put up some idiotic and frankly WRONG posting.
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Most of those bases have saved those nations the necessity of building their own armies, navies and air defense forces. We should be getting paid for keeping their nations secure and eliminating the necessity of them paying for it themselves!

You must be a brain-dead millennial - no one else could be this uninformed and totally unaware of history. Those bases have been asked for and various nations have begged for them to remain when the US tried to close the major bases many years back!

Learn the facts before you put up some idiotic and frankly WRONG posting.
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Did the US taxpayers agree to pay for all of these expenses for 75 years?
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We are so sorry we kept the Soviet Union away
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You should fucking be! It destroyed whole Europe in the end cause of it. Just look at it today.
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Not only is it insulting to Europeans by implicating that they need endless babysitting, it has caused entire generations of Europeans to accept foreigners on their soil. Not good.
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I agree, but for different reasons. I think it is long overdue for Europe to protect itself. I think we ought to immediately close ALL our bases in every European country, bring home ALL our troops and equipment - leaving NOTHING pre-positioned or stored anywhere in Europe.

Aside from reduced population and air traffic, the first thing Europeans will notice is the severe downturn in local commerce. Business will dry up in areas surrounding US Bases. No more money.

The next thing Europeans notice will be a 50-75% tax increase to cover all that lost economic activity and to pay for THEIR OWN military!

Yes, I'm sure the Europeans will be very happy about that; but not nearly as happy as I will be to have my troops back home.
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Not only is it insulting to Europeans by implicating that they need endless babysitting, it has caused entire generations of Europeans to accept foreigners on their soil. Not good.
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I agree, but for different reasons. I think it is long overdue for Europe to protect itself. I think we ought to immediately close ALL our bases in every European country, bring home ALL our troops and equipment - leaving NOTHING pre-positioned or stored anywhere in Europe.

Aside from reduced population and air traffic, the first thing Europeans will notice is the severe downturn in local commerce. Business will dry up in areas surrounding US Bases. No more money.

The next thing Europeans notice will be a 50-75% tax increase to cover all that lost economic activity and to pay for THEIR OWN military!

Yes, I'm sure the Europeans will be very happy about that; but not nearly as happy as I will be to have my troops back home.
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I agree that the troops should be brought home but not as a form of punishment for Europeans. Both sides are at fault as this thread details. However, 75 years is too long for such occupation. Europeans may not like it financially but they will adjust. Same for Japan and Korea.
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We should have left in 1991/1992 after the USSR not just collapsed but disintegrated.

The US pulled out of the Philippians in 1992 and should have done the same thing in Europe ... and the Middle East at the same time.

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We are so sorry we kept the Soviet Union away
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Soviet Union ended 30 years ago. LOL.
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WW III will likely be nuclear. So Op has a good queztion... esp. after the Soviet Union dissolved.

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Not only is it insulting to Europeans by implicating that they need endless babysitting, it has caused entire generations of Europeans to accept foreigners on their soil. Not good.
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Not only is it insulting to Europeans by implicating that they need endless babysitting, it has caused entire generations of Europeans to accept foreigners on their soil. Not good.
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They'd rather have Middle Eastern immigrants? Is that what you're trying to say?

What's your problem? Oh wait, you're a muzzie? Now I get it!

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Not only is it insulting to Europeans by implicating that they need endless babysitting, it has caused entire generations of Europeans to accept foreigners on their soil. Not good.
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They'd rather have Middle Eastern immigrants? Is that what you're trying to say?

What's your problem? Oh wait, you're a muzzie? Now I get it!
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So the US troops are stopping immigrants? No.

Did you even bother to read the thread?
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We should have left in 1991/1992 after the USSR not just collapsed but disintegrated.

The US pulled out of the Philippians in 1992 and should have done the same thing in Europe ... and the Middle East at the same time.

 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


Further the US should NOT have gotten involved in the Ex- Yugoslavia ... it is part of Europe and it was up to Europe to solve that problem.

I fully expect that if the US pulled out of Europe that it would only take ONE generation before Europeans would be back to fighting each other ... that is their LONG history, but so be it. The US should let them sort out their own issues and should NOT intervene no matter how bitter or deadly their internal squabbles turn out to be.

Remember when Napoleon went into Russia only about 1% of those he went in with ever came home. Mass death via War or Extermination is the natural dynamic and natural order of Europe. It has been that way for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Time for the US to remove itself from that entire European and it's offshoot, Middle Eastern, dynamic.

Close ALL US bases in Europe and the Middle East. Bring ALL of our men AND EQUIPMENT, including prepositioned supplies, HOME.

Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 04/09/2019 01:08 AM
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