Did British pilots attack Pearl Harbor December 7th, 1941?

Dafuq. Never thought of this one. Why not.

Think about it.

War usually has a habit of wanting or making other countries join in the war, in some manner or another.

I expect not .

The planes had to be flown by men then .They had to excerise and take amphetamines to get any where ...far away ....

And then there is the fuel required ...to fly ...

The Japanese were very cruel and nasty to their prisoners because they thought it was honourable to fight and die ..not give up ..

Hence kamakhasi pilots who flew their planes into ships...

There was some wobble in America about supporting the Germsns..because of German roots in America ...from the King of England who sent them to America when they were thrown out of Germany because of dirrerences ..

It is a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive ..

Truth is better..

It has a cutting edge to it ...

Hmmm... I beg to differ.

Many years ago, I used to know the daughter of one of the captains of the Japanese fleet.

She was completely genuine. She showed us documentary evidence, photos, etc. and I had (and still have) no reason to believe she was lying about such a sensitive issue.

So British pilots were crashing themselves into our ships? Lol I don't think so

OK, I'll bite....At the time of Pearl Harbor in late 1941 the Brits were up to their asses in trying to defend themselves from German attacks on their country. Their air defenses were very thin so why would they commit aircraft and pilots to attack their only potential source of salvation...the United States?

And how did they get their pilots and aircraft into Japanese hands? Did they commit their few aircraft carriers to Japanese use? Did they stealthily sail the "long way" around Africa or go through the Panama Canal somehow undetected.

Lots of plot holes with this theory that you'll have to plug somehow. Many other things to be explained but I'll stop with these.

Plausibility very low, my friend.

Interesting! I did a research project on Pearl Harbour for a University History course and the books I read, in the university library, indictated to me that the Pres knew about the impending attack and chose not to warn the admiral in charge. That was the conclusion of my paper. It's basically the offiical historical opinion. Historians have decided!

They wouldn't have had to be far away...

The US wasn't anyone's salvation unless fully at war, and we weren't fully at war until "attacked." Note the early reports where Hawai'ian people could "see the pilot's faces."

Excellent! Would love to read your paper.

Why did she feel the need to show you documentary evidence? Interesting.

Surely you are aware of the aid that was being discretely provided to the Brits and others under the Lend-Lease Act that was in effect well before US entry into WWII.

Are you implying the early reports you mention that people could see the pilots' faces during the Pearl Harbor attack suggest the faces appeared to be Caucasian and British?

There wasn't any "need" to show. Friends and acquaintances talked about their lives, backgrounds, upbringings, in those days.

She had pictures of her father on the bridge of his carrier, pictures of the carrier, on her wall. Of course, her being a bit "exotic", conversation/discussion ensued.

They were different, innocent times.

Mexicans attacked us at pearl harbor!

1* British pilots and planes were few and fighting the "Battle of Britain" against the Luftwaffe. They had Eagle Squadron (American Pilots) filling in for the depleted British pilots.

What was the carrier name?

Sorry - what was the carrier name?

35 Jap planes were shot down that day--no British aviators found--LOL.

Yea, The Purple Machine was decoded in 1941. It was a slow and painful process (until 1943) to decipher, but we had ample warning of the PH attack. The only thing not known was the precise time it was coming.

Good grief people.

Were they?

Who recovered them?

Where are they?

35 planes indeed. ;)

What was the name of the carrier?

Actually, the most unbelievable part of the "Japanese attack" on Pearl is the "fact" that the Japanese fleet "disappeared" never to be found.

MAYBE THEY WERE MARTIAN TWONK

I find it absolutely amazing that a Hungarian friend popped by this thread who just happens to be friends with the daughter of a "Japanese captain" who had "documentary evidence" that Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor lmao.

Honestly wtf.

Holy shit this thread got 5 one-stars instantly?

Doesn't that tell you something interesting?

Wow.

I'm reading "Day of Deceit" and others, and this question arose in my mind last night.

Never did I dream that several people/shills/sockpuppets would IMMEDIATELY manifest to attack the British pilot theory as "Completely wrong!!!!"

Interesting, eh?

That is absolutely the facts. FDRs admn had done everything short of an actual false flag to force Japan into striking the US. For FDR Peal Harbor was a gift that no number of US deaths was to high a price to pay for a real excuse for war.
Churchill was a Rothschild drunk psychotic warmonger and would have war with Germany at all cost.
The motives, agendas, and lines in the actual war being fought are only now beginning to drip into the public, Because it in no way corelates to the textbook history propaganda we were sold

No it must have been the Russians ..joke ...

I do not mean this .It is a joke ..

Sadly you Americans got brain washed in the Cold War ...

So in the WW2

Germany ,Italy and Japan had an treaty ...Russia too but then it changed side ...though I do not remember why ..and only found out a little while ago .

UK was with the Commonwealth and had treaties with Poland .Which triggered the war in the West when Germany invaded Poland

American flipped flopped until the ships were attacked at Pearl Harbour .

Times were like now before the war and U.K. had shut down her military .

Germany had been building military....

The League of Nations set up to create peace failed just like the UN now .

The Germans invaded France and Western Europe ..in 1940 after the war started ..A Grandfather was killed at Dunkirk ...

My Dad said the fleeing troops were in the water so small trying to get to the boats while the Germans were firing over the beach to destroy the ships ...

This is why I do not trust the EU ...I think they want to do this all over again ..It is nuts ..Why would they want an army ?

We had run all the military down .This means the aeroplanes too .

The British are traders ..not warlike ...Napoleon said we were a nation of shop keepers ..

You can of course OP believe what you want......

I read in an old book that the trouble in America was that our King had made a treaty ..a promise ..that we would not expand into Indian territory over the Ohio ..but the revolutionary Americans wanted it all ..

Sound more likely than the tea th8n* to me ...Just saying ..

Peace to you . War is horrible ...

What did you Dad / Grandad do in 5he war OP?

It was the Germans.
Watch Animal House and you will learn your history about Pearl Harbor.

Americans (and British) tried for over a year to get Japan to commit a hostile act against America.

Japan didn't do it.

America quietly sends its carriers away from Pearl on a sudden mission to "supply" South Sea islands, days before Pearl.

then, magically on Dec 7th, 1941, a mysterious group of "Japanese" planes appear to shoot up the aging Arizona et all.

Japanese my ass.

OP, it's because your theory that British pilots participated in the attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor flies in the face of all reason based on this timeline in history, both logically and logistically. When you present such an absurdity without any serious documentation you must expect some pushback. Not from, as you say, trolls, shills, sockpuppets...but from reasonably knowledgeable people... my 2 cents.

You might just as well have suggested Martians participated in the Pearl Harbor attack...and then not expected some reluctance to accept your theory.

Man, you are cynical.

I also posted on here about knowing the grandaughter of one of the radio operators on the Titanic, and knowing Audrey Hepburn's first flat-mate.

We, and the Japanese girl, all lived a ffew minutes walk from each other, at one time.

I could mention many other famous people you would know, musicians, actors and politicians, for example, who also lived a few minutes walk away, were neighbors, or, indeed, work colleagues. They all had to start off somewhere.

Putting my words in quote marks only displays your cynicism. I didn't just "pop by". I'm here on GLP every day and I'm a regular commenter.

And I don't, for the life of me, see why my country's flag, has anything to do with anything.

FWIW, some people had lives long before the Internet was even an idea.

You must be very young.