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Just in time for Tax Day, the for-profit tax preparation industry is about to realize one of its long-sought goals. Congressional Democrats and Republicans are moving to permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system.

Last week, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., passed the Taxpayer First Act, a wide-ranging bill making several administrative changes to the IRS that is sponsored by Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Mike Kelly, R-Pa.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing. Companies like Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and H&R Block have lobbied for years to block the IRS from creating such a system. If the tax agency created its own program, which would be similar to programs other developed countries have, it would threaten the industry’s profits.

“This could be a disaster. It could be the final nail in the coffin of the idea of the IRS ever being able to create its own program,” said Mandi Matlock, a tax attorney who does work for the National Consumer Law Center.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing.

Experts have long argued that the IRS has failed to make filing taxes as easy and cheap as it could be. In addition to a free system of online tax preparation and filing, the agency could provide people with pre-filled tax forms containing the salary data the agency already has, as ProPublica first reported on in 2013.

The Free File Alliance, a private industry group, says 70% of American taxpayers are eligible to file for free. Those taxpayers, who must make less than $66,000, have access to free tax software provided by the companies. But just 3% of eligible U.S. taxpayers actually use the free program each year. Critics of the program say that companies use it as a cross-marketing tool to upsell paid products, that they have deliberately underpromoted the free option and that it leaves consumer data open to privacy breaches.


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I filed electronically 4 times got them all kicked back by The IRS.
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bet you 100% this move is to prevent something ELSE from a regulation coming from another part of government later this year
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bet you 100% this move is to prevent something ELSE from a regulation coming from another part of government later this year
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2 slices from the same sword
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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
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FWIW, my taxes are usually about twenty pages long.

The $250 it costs to have them prepared is well worth the usual five figure refund.

They are never 'kicked back', they are properly filed.

I received my refund in February.

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They won't make a simple flat tax that could be filled out on a post card that would benefit 300,000,000 Americans because they don't want a couple thousand tax preparers to have to find new jobs. Thanks Government.
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Anyone who files electronically is a putz. THE LEAST you can do is make them open it by hand and handle it the slow way.
Dumbass American chumps think taxes mean you GET money.
MAGA.
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Anyone who files electronically is a putz. THE LEAST you can do is make them open it by hand and handle it the slow way.
Dumbass American chumps think taxes mean you GET money.
MAGA.
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Well you proved me stupid.

I paid no mortgage interest last year so this year's return was kinda low...

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FWIW, my taxes are usually about twenty pages long.

The $250 it costs to have them prepared is well worth the usual five figure refund.

They are never 'kicked back', they are properly filed.

I received my refund in February.
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Wow. I need to use your tax guy. We get hit for about $400 for each business and about $200 for personal.

Got our refund about 7 days after e-filing in early March.
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I read today they are getting ready to change our withholdings with the idea that we don't owe taxes and we don't get refunds. The W4 forms to be filled out will be like doing a return. Supposed to be released later this year.

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Side note, I paid to have mine prepared for many years and never worried about them being wrong. Once I got rid of my rental property and my mother's estate was closed and final I started doing them myself. However I still paid the extra to Turbo Tax to make sure my ass was covered.

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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
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No, we need a national sales tax. It would totally eliminate all this tax reporting crap and people would have more control over how much they pay in taxes.
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FWIW, my taxes are usually about twenty pages long.

The $250 it costs to have them prepared is well worth the usual five figure refund.

They are never 'kicked back', they are properly filed.

I received my refund in February.
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Dang, who do you use? That is a great deal.

Mine ends up being around $1,000 and I get about $10k back. I hoping I get the forms back today. Last minute.
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I filed electronically 4 times got them all kicked back by The IRS.
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That's because claiming 4 kids is only allowed by the illegals
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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
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No, we need a national sales tax. It would totally eliminate all this tax reporting crap and people would have more control over how much they pay in taxes.
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NO! We need to reduce the taxes down to a one tax, ONLY!. No property tax, no sales tax, no gas tax, no "you farted incorrectly" tax. Just one tax. and it should be a constitutional amendment. Congress could not create any other taxes... But, that is a pipe dream.
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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
 Quoting: MyPillow


No, we need a national sales tax. It would totally eliminate all this tax reporting crap and people would have more control over how much they pay in taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1532680


NO! We need to reduce the taxes down to a one tax, ONLY!. No property tax, no sales tax, no gas tax, no "you farted incorrectly" tax. Just one tax. and it should be a constitutional amendment. Congress could not create any other taxes... But, that is a pipe dream.
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I'm not even sure why the government collects taxes because they print money out of nothing. $22 trillion in debt.
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Anyone who files electronically is a putz. THE LEAST you can do is make them open it by hand and handle it the slow way.
Dumbass American chumps think taxes mean you GET money.
MAGA.
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Well you proved me stupid.

I paid no mortgage interest last year so this year's return was kinda low...



"Personal Accounts" MAGA everyday!
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Like I said. Dumbass Americans think taxes mean you GET money.
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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
 Quoting: MyPillow


No, we need a national sales tax. It would totally eliminate all this tax reporting crap and people would have more control over how much they pay in taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1532680


NO! We need to reduce the taxes down to a one tax, ONLY!. No property tax, no sales tax, no gas tax, no "you farted incorrectly" tax. Just one tax. and it should be a constitutional amendment. Congress could not create any other taxes... But, that is a pipe dream.
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I'm not even sure why the government collects taxes because they print money out of nothing. $22 trillion in debt.
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I know. But, I can have my happy dream. Right?

hf
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One tax. Absolutely.
Zero.
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Anyone who files electronically is a putz. THE LEAST you can do is make them open it by hand and handle it the slow way.
Dumbass American chumps think taxes mean you GET money.
MAGA.
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Well you proved me stupid.

I paid no mortgage interest last year so this year's return was kinda low...

LouisTax2018

"Personal Accounts" MAGA everyday!
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Damn son! How much extra do they take out every paycheck for that? How many exemptions you claim?
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FWIW, my taxes are usually about twenty pages long.

The $250 it costs to have them prepared is well worth the usual five figure refund.

They are never 'kicked back', they are properly filed.

I received my refund in February.
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5 figure?
No wonder you need someone to do your taxes, you suck at math.
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FWIW, my taxes are usually about twenty pages long.

The $250 it costs to have them prepared is well worth the usual five figure refund.

They are never 'kicked back', they are properly filed.

I received my refund in February.
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5 figure?
No wonder you need someone to do your taxes, you suck at math.
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He counts the "$" as a figure, apparently.
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It makes sense for the government to allow you to file your taxes for FREE. If they want it electronic, then they have to provide this option.

BUT to be lobbied by the software industry to remove it so they can charge us is absolutely wrong.

I remember when Trump was elected he said our taxes could be filed on a post card. I guess that never happened.


We need a flat tax.
 Quoting: MyPillow


No, we need a national sales tax. It would totally eliminate all this tax reporting crap and people would have more control over how much they pay in taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1532680


NO! We need to reduce the taxes down to a one tax, ONLY!. No property tax, no sales tax, no gas tax, no "you farted incorrectly" tax. Just one tax. and it should be a constitutional amendment. Congress could not create any other taxes... But, that is a pipe dream.
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I'm not even sure why the government collects taxes because they print money out of nothing. $22 trillion in debt.
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To prevent anyone from amassing wealth.

Simple.
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Just in time for Tax Day, the for-profit tax preparation industry is about to realize one of its long-sought goals. Congressional Democrats and Republicans are moving to permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system.

Last week, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., passed the Taxpayer First Act, a wide-ranging bill making several administrative changes to the IRS that is sponsored by Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Mike Kelly, R-Pa.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing. Companies like Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and H&R Block have lobbied for years to block the IRS from creating such a system. If the tax agency created its own program, which would be similar to programs other developed countries have, it would threaten the industry’s profits.

“This could be a disaster. It could be the final nail in the coffin of the idea of the IRS ever being able to create its own program,” said Mandi Matlock, a tax attorney who does work for the National Consumer Law Center.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing.

Experts have long argued that the IRS has failed to make filing taxes as easy and cheap as it could be. In addition to a free system of online tax preparation and filing, the agency could provide people with pre-filled tax forms containing the salary data the agency already has, as ProPublica first reported on in 2013.

The Free File Alliance, a private industry group, says 70% of American taxpayers are eligible to file for free. Those taxpayers, who must make less than $66,000, have access to free tax software provided by the companies. But just 3% of eligible U.S. taxpayers actually use the free program each year. Critics of the program say that companies use it as a cross-marketing tool to upsell paid products, that they have deliberately underpromoted the free option and that it leaves consumer data open to privacy breaches.


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Why in blazes would ANYONE not use an accountant. SMH.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Just in time for Tax Day, the for-profit tax preparation industry is about to realize one of its long-sought goals. Congressional Democrats and Republicans are moving to permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system.

Last week, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., passed the Taxpayer First Act, a wide-ranging bill making several administrative changes to the IRS that is sponsored by Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Mike Kelly, R-Pa.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing. Companies like Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and H&R Block have lobbied for years to block the IRS from creating such a system. If the tax agency created its own program, which would be similar to programs other developed countries have, it would threaten the industry’s profits.

“This could be a disaster. It could be the final nail in the coffin of the idea of the IRS ever being able to create its own program,” said Mandi Matlock, a tax attorney who does work for the National Consumer Law Center.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing.

Experts have long argued that the IRS has failed to make filing taxes as easy and cheap as it could be. In addition to a free system of online tax preparation and filing, the agency could provide people with pre-filled tax forms containing the salary data the agency already has, as ProPublica first reported on in 2013.

The Free File Alliance, a private industry group, says 70% of American taxpayers are eligible to file for free. Those taxpayers, who must make less than $66,000, have access to free tax software provided by the companies. But just 3% of eligible U.S. taxpayers actually use the free program each year. Critics of the program say that companies use it as a cross-marketing tool to upsell paid products, that they have deliberately underpromoted the free option and that it leaves consumer data open to privacy breaches.


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Why in blazes would ANYONE not use an accountant. SMH.
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context much?

your life is not everyone's

most ppl cannot afford an accountant or service

when i started working my taxes were very easy, i did the 1040EZ form myself for many years.
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Just in time for Tax Day, the for-profit tax preparation industry is about to realize one of its long-sought goals. Congressional Democrats and Republicans are moving to permanently bar the IRS from creating a free electronic tax filing system.

Last week, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., passed the Taxpayer First Act, a wide-ranging bill making several administrative changes to the IRS that is sponsored by Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Mike Kelly, R-Pa.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing. Companies like Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and H&R Block have lobbied for years to block the IRS from creating such a system. If the tax agency created its own program, which would be similar to programs other developed countries have, it would threaten the industry’s profits.

“This could be a disaster. It could be the final nail in the coffin of the idea of the IRS ever being able to create its own program,” said Mandi Matlock, a tax attorney who does work for the National Consumer Law Center.

In one of its provisions, the bill makes it illegal for the IRS to create its own online system of tax filing.

Experts have long argued that the IRS has failed to make filing taxes as easy and cheap as it could be. In addition to a free system of online tax preparation and filing, the agency could provide people with pre-filled tax forms containing the salary data the agency already has, as ProPublica first reported on in 2013.

The Free File Alliance, a private industry group, says 70% of American taxpayers are eligible to file for free. Those taxpayers, who must make less than $66,000, have access to free tax software provided by the companies. But just 3% of eligible U.S. taxpayers actually use the free program each year. Critics of the program say that companies use it as a cross-marketing tool to upsell paid products, that they have deliberately underpromoted the free option and that it leaves consumer data open to privacy breaches.


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 Quoting: MyPillow


Why in blazes would ANYONE not use an accountant. SMH.
 Quoting: Jungleboogie


context much?

your life is not everyone's

most ppl cannot afford an accountant or service

when i started working my taxes were very easy, i did the 1040EZ form myself for many years.
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Accountant isn't that expensive, unless you work at Taco Bell or live in your mom's basement it's affordable.

Some people here even make 3.50 a post!
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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