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Veronica B.

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Well i had a thought. What if mother to be had measels etc etc would the baby be immune after birth.

Google search brings up how both blood dont and cant mix etc and placenta is the filter and load of other searches telling you how to vax etc.

So tried to word my search diff and found a link cant link here dont know how and would have to go back to history..

Anyway.

Answer is yes.

Passive Immunity it is called.

So any mum to be who has had any disease or virus can pass on immunity to baby after 3 months.

they know this also but still push. I bet those goverment have shares in vax or pill pushers.

passive immunity does make sense when you think about it, why wouldnt it.

All mums to be protect their unborn its nature at work unless the off spring had far worse growth problem then nature removes it.

If gov have to fine or blackmail you to getting vaxxed you fame know its fraud from get go.

Any mom who feels she has to due to fear, go get a full blood works and scans first.

passive immunity..


Oh and some will say no.. lol bit like getting cancer from passive smoking yeah..
 Quoting: Loila



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WHOA! You are wrong there. My cousins aunt (on the other side, not my aunt), was pregnant and contracted the measles. Her daughter was born developmentally disabled; a nice way to say retarded. You do NOT want to have a disease when you are pregnant.
 Quoting: Veronica B.

That would be German measles. Not the regular measles.
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Don't tell me what she had! I agree measles and chicken pox are no big deal when contracted at a certain age, but other diseases are DEADLY!
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That's the way it was done back when I was young, when autism was not an epidemic.
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Exactly! My mom did this with me and chicken pox. No one had autism when I was growing up.
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No one had autism when I was growing up. No one. And we were all vaccinate. Everybody was vaccinated and no autism.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77505010

"look at the parents who want 'normal ' easy kids when they are feckless and inadequate parents. watch them scrabble for a diagnosis for behavioural problems which they themselves have had a hand in generating BECAUSE they are lazy and usually arrogantly under-educated..."
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I suppose the parents of these kids who stand on their tippy toes, flap their arms, screech, bang their heads, incessantly drool, non-vocal etc etc etc are just......lazy parents ?
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YEP!! Autism does exist, although rare, but there are sooooo many diagnosed because the doctor just sees the behavior and doesn't know the home life and how there are so many bad parents!
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yep, just I thought, you have no fucking idea.



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Out of the hundreds of 95 year old people I've watched die; I'd say I've seen 3 maybe 4 die peacefully in their sleep.
epiclol
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We attract everything. Have a positive attitude and you wont live a crappy life. And you certainly won’t end up in the dementia ward.
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I wont live long enough to make it there. Not worried about it. After watching people suffer for a decade now, I'll have no problem ending my own life before i get too sick. IF that gets me sent to hell, so be it. We're already halfway there anyways.

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I work in the medical field so I have no choice unless I want to make shit money doing private care. Id rather make money and get cancer.

EVERY single one of us is going to die, with or without being vaccinated.
 Quoting: TriggaDre 75488886


I would rather be in good health as I grow old and not have cancer. Then just die in my sleep peacefully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Ima keep eating steak and potatoes, drinking beer, and smoking weed. The exercise is just to keep the wife bang'n.

What will really happen is shit for you. You'll live so long that you'll spend the last 15-20 years of your life wishing you were dead and out live your mind. I watch people like you die for a living. Fuck that, not for me. Me. . . heart attack, poof, gone. Cancer, shotgun, bang, gone.
 Quoting: TriggaDre

It is always better to die young than to live to see the insult to life that is old age or its accompanying morbidities and maladies, something no one deserves nor should have be to experience or be subject to under any belief system.

At that point one has just overstayed their welcome, and should know it, but does not, because their most basic instinct of 'survival' has overtaken their mind, usurping their sensibilities and reason, and they cannot even relinquish their pathetic excuse of a 'life' because of that, when it otherwise would be a perfectly acceptable solution, and morally justified.
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Re: New York parents are holding 'measles parties' to intentionally infect their children instead of getting vaccinated
Well i had a thought. What if mother to be had measels etc etc would the baby be immune after birth.

Google search brings up how both blood dont and cant mix etc and placenta is the filter and load of other searches telling you how to vax etc.

So tried to word my search diff and found a link cant link here dont know how and would have to go back to history..

Anyway.

Answer is yes.

Passive Immunity it is called.

So any mum to be who has had any disease or virus can pass on immunity to baby after 3 months.

they know this also but still push. I bet those goverment have shares in vax or pill pushers.

passive immunity does make sense when you think about it, why wouldnt it.

All mums to be protect their unborn its nature at work unless the off spring had far worse growth problem then nature removes it.

If gov have to fine or blackmail you to getting vaxxed you fame know its fraud from get go.

Any mom who feels she has to due to fear, go get a full blood works and scans first.

passive immunity..


Oh and some will say no.. lol bit like getting cancer from passive smoking yeah..
 Quoting: Loila



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WHOA! You are wrong there. My cousins aunt (on the other side, not my aunt), was pregnant and contracted the measles. Her daughter was born developmentally disabled; a nice way to say retarded. You do NOT want to have a disease when you are pregnant.
 Quoting: Veronica B.



the anti vaxxers don't want to hear about or take any responsibility for the drop in herd immunity

and protecting pregnant mums and new borns from their choices

it's all about them , the individual and their rights

it's the me me me - I'm always right and all my decisions are right coz I know everything and know more than peeps who have spent their whole life studying disease -
those are the kind of asshats you are talking to here



don't be upsetting their apple cart reminding them they live in a community

and their choices affect other people
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A woman who wants to get pregnant can get a blood test to see if she is immune to the German measles or rubella. If she isn’t she can get vaccinated for it. Problem solved.
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This is not the good idea it seems to be. This is how I became an anti vaxxer.
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I work in the medical field so I have no choice unless I want to make shit money doing private care. Id rather make money and get cancer.

EVERY single one of us is going to die, with or without being vaccinated.
 Quoting: TriggaDre 75488886


I would rather be in good health as I grow old and not have cancer. Then just die in my sleep peacefully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Ima keep eating steak and potatoes, drinking beer, and smoking weed. The exercise is just to keep the wife bang'n.

What will really happen is shit for you. You'll live so long that you'll spend the last 15-20 years of your life wishing you were dead and out live your mind. I watch people like you die for a living. Fuck that, not for me. Me. . . heart attack, poof, gone. Cancer, shotgun, bang, gone.
 Quoting: TriggaDre

It is always better to die young than to live to see the insult to life that is old age or its accompanying morbidities and maladies, something no one deserves nor should have be to experience or be subject to under any belief system.

At that point one has just overstayed their welcome, and should know it, but does not, because their most basic instinct of 'survival' has overtaken their mind, usurping their sensibilities and reason, and they cannot even relinquish their pathetic excuse of a 'life' because of that, when it otherwise would be a perfectly acceptable solution, and morally justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77403159

I can see your point, but don't really know how this would work out. Are there traditional ways that people did this? I want to say I've read fiction books where, say, an old wise person felt it was the end of their lives, and wandered off never to return, but I don't know how they went about it. Did they just lay down in the woods and expose themselves to the cold? Did they leap from a cliff?
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what they don't want you to know and they have known for almost 100 years is that measles virus can cure cancer, it was observed that the virus in children with tumors had their tumors shrink. It isn't just the measles though, they have experimented with different common viruses.

I can tell you this, my daughter was recently diagnosed with RA...shots, steroids all the regular treatments would not bring down the swelling and pain...she caught a virus 2 weeks ago (cough, sore throat, ear infection, fever) she went to bed feeling miserable and woke up still feeling miserable from the virus but the swelling from the RA was gone.

viruses have their place
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That's the way it was done back when I was young, when autism was not an epidemic.
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Autism is not a transmittable disease lol

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While its not a transmittable disease it doesnt mean its not an epidemic ...

HISTORICAL AUTISM RATES:

1960: 1 in 150,000
1980: 1 in 10,000
1995: 1 in 500
2001: 1 in 250
2004: 1 in 166
2007: 1 in 150
2009: 1 in 110
2012: 1 in 88
2013: 1 in 50
2018: 1 in 30

ESTIMATED AUTISM RATES:

2023: 1 in 13
2028: 1 in 7
2033: 1 in 4
2040: 1 in 2



If you look at those numbers and if you dont think thats an epidemic then you might need to get your head checked.
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As of April 8, 2019, there have been 285 confirmed cases of measles in Brooklyn and Queens since October. Most of these cases have involved members of the Orthodox Jewish community.

The initial child with measles was unvaccinated and acquired measles on a visit to Israel, where a large outbreak of the disease is occurring. Since then, there have been additional people from Brooklyn and Queens who were unvaccinated and acquired measles while in Israel. People who did not travel were also infected in Brooklyn or Rockland County.


“New York threatens to close some Jewish schools as measles outbreak worsens”
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As of April 8, 2019, there have been 285 confirmed cases of measles in Brooklyn and Queens since October. Most of these cases have involved members of the Orthodox Jewish community.

The initial child with measles was unvaccinated and acquired measles on a visit to Israel, where a large outbreak of the disease is occurring. Since then, there have been additional people from Brooklyn and Queens who were unvaccinated and acquired measles while in Israel. People who did not travel were also infected in Brooklyn or Rockland County.


“New York threatens to close some Jewish schools as measles outbreak worsens”
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The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends children infected with measles from poor nations that do not offer measles vaccination be treated with high dose (200,000IU - 500,000IU) of Vitamin A for several days.

The WHO also states that daily high dose Vitamin A (20,000 to 40,000IU) is also an effective prophylactic against measles infection.



Measles, treated by using high dose Vitamin A:

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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death."




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Is this what anti-vaxxers want? You want that? Measles parties don't work. These diseases are lethal. And you're exposing you're children. That's what you're doing. Is it worth it? Look at that. Read it.
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"I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children."



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our parents made us hug our infected cousins lol, got it over with an never got again, besides that how are these vaccinated kids catching the measles if they were vaccinated to not catch the measles LOL
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
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You have to love the backwards logic of media who are owned by big pharma

The basic premise of vaccinations is that the vaccine contains trace elements of the virus.

It’s just like Onesimus the African slave showed Christians in the 1700s rubbing small pox puss into wounds of healthy people to build their immune system

Therefore throwing a measles party is no different than vaccinating your kid .you allow your kid to catch measles when their immune system is strong and can better fight the virus
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
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The reason that vaccinated children are getting measles is because the "vaccines", when tested, do not produce antigens. They don't work.

Who knew that big pharma could be scamming people?
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
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Didn't read any of this shit except the thread title... I had measles, god damn best 3 days of my life, fuck anyone who says different...bunch of fucking liars out to line their pockets... I say fuck off and die asshats.
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The reason that vaccinated children are getting measles is because the "vaccines", when tested, do not produce antigens. They don't work.

Who knew that big pharma could be scamming people?
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
 Quoting: Milekiel




clappa

I just watched Fox News and they were talking about how ignorant people are to purposely expose their kids. People spreading their propaganda about vaccines being unsafe with NO evidence whatsoever, (while there IS evidence that vaccines work) are really bad people!

I stated in another post how my cousin got polio when he was a kid because my aunt and uncle were too ignorant to vaccinate their kids. He almost died and now has a permanent limp and sometimes pain in his leg. I also have a cousin who's aunt had measles when she was pregnant and her daughter was born, for lack of a nicer word that explains it better, retarded. I know more people who were affected from not getting vaccinations but forgot to mention them, like my friend who's aunt had rubella when she was a kid and the high fever left her retarded. And a friend who's baby died of spinal meningitis at 13 months old. An incident that devastated me because I was super close to the baby. They didn't have that vaccine then though. If only they did....
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The reason that vaccinated children are getting measles is because the "vaccines", when tested, do not produce antigens. They don't work.

Who knew that big pharma could be scamming people?
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
 Quoting: Milekiel




clappa

I just watched Fox News and they were talking about how ignorant people are to purposely expose their kids. People spreading their propaganda about vaccines being unsafe with NO evidence whatsoever, (while there IS evidence that vaccines work) are really bad people!

I stated in another post how my cousin got polio when he was a kid because my aunt and uncle were too ignorant to vaccinate their kids. He almost died and now has a permanent limp and sometimes pain in his leg. I also have a cousin who's aunt had measles when she was pregnant and her daughter was born, for lack of a nicer word that explains it better, retarded. I know more people who were affected from not getting vaccinations but forgot to mention them, like my friend who's aunt had rubella when she was a kid and the high fever left her retarded. And a friend who's baby died of spinal meningitis at 13 months old. An incident that devastated me because I was super close to the baby. They didn't have that vaccine then though. If only they did....
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So you keep vaccinating your children. First one ok. Second one ok. Third one 6 months old, dies in their sleep less than 24 hours after their DTAP shot. What will you do then ? Will you vaccinate your fourth ?
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The reason that vaccinated children are getting measles is because the "vaccines", when tested, do not produce antigens. They don't work.

Who knew that big pharma could be scamming people?
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
 Quoting: Milekiel




clappa

I just watched Fox News and they were talking about how ignorant people are to purposely expose their kids. People spreading their propaganda about vaccines being unsafe with NO evidence whatsoever, (while there IS evidence that vaccines work) are really bad people!

I stated in another post how my cousin got polio when he was a kid because my aunt and uncle were too ignorant to vaccinate their kids. He almost died and now has a permanent limp and sometimes pain in his leg. I also have a cousin who's aunt had measles when she was pregnant and her daughter was born, for lack of a nicer word that explains it better, retarded. I know more people who were affected from not getting vaccinations but forgot to mention them, like my friend who's aunt had rubella when she was a kid and the high fever left her retarded. And a friend who's baby died of spinal meningitis at 13 months old. An incident that devastated me because I was super close to the baby. They didn't have that vaccine then though. If only they did....
 Quoting: Veronica B.


So you keep vaccinating your children. First one ok. Second one ok. Third one 6 months old, dies in their sleep less than 24 hours after their DTAP shot. What will you do then ? Will you vaccinate your fourth ?
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crazy crazy crazy yapping
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I would rather be in good health as I grow old and not have cancer. Then just die in my sleep peacefully.
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Ima keep eating steak and potatoes, drinking beer, and smoking weed. The exercise is just to keep the wife bang'n.

What will really happen is shit for you. You'll live so long that you'll spend the last 15-20 years of your life wishing you were dead and out live your mind. I watch people like you die for a living. Fuck that, not for me. Me. . . heart attack, poof, gone. Cancer, shotgun, bang, gone.
 Quoting: TriggaDre

It is always better to die young than to live to see the insult to life that is old age or its accompanying morbidities and maladies, something no one deserves nor should have be to experience or be subject to under any belief system.

At that point one has just overstayed their welcome, and should know it, but does not, because their most basic instinct of 'survival' has overtaken their mind, usurping their sensibilities and reason, and they cannot even relinquish their pathetic excuse of a 'life' because of that, when it otherwise would be a perfectly acceptable solution, and morally justified.
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I can see your point, but don't really know how this would work out. Are there traditional ways that people did this? I want to say I've read fiction books where, say, an old wise person felt it was the end of their lives, and wandered off never to return, but I don't know how they went about it. Did they just lay down in the woods and expose themselves to the cold? Did they leap from a cliff?
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Simple. To die with dignity; if it is not one's time, one would know it...
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"You know this. You understand that these are real and lethal illnesses. Roald Dahl was not lying when he described how his daughter Olivia, seemingly on the mend from measles, suddenly had trouble moving her hands and told him she felt “all sleepy.” Hours later, she was dead. Medicine has progressed in leaps and bounds since Olivia died in 1962, but even so, treatment for measles remains supportive — there are no medicines that can cure the virus itself, and the more severe cases will still result in death.

I know that you would never knowingly put your child at risk. You must believe it’s safe for your children to skip their vaccines because, being surrounded by other vaccinated individuals, it’s incredibly unlikely that being unvaccinated will kill them. But that math changes when someone online convinces a new mom — who has never watched an infant turn blue from pertussis — that vaccines aren’t worth the risk. That math changes when a celebrity — who has never seen a healthy toddler be placed on life support, only to die anyway from pneumococcus — goes on television and tells parents that vaccines will harm their children. It changes when candidates for public office — who have never watched a college-football quarterback seize and be killed by meningitis — waffle and cave to public opinion instead of asserting that the best evidence available says that vaccines are incredibly safe. The fact that vaccine refusal has turned into a movement is what makes it dangerous. But it’s not my children who are most in jeopardy. It’s yours."

This is what's going on.
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clappa

I just watched Fox News and they were talking about how ignorant people are to purposely expose their kids. People spreading their propaganda about vaccines being unsafe with NO evidence whatsoever, (while there IS evidence that vaccines work) are really bad people!

I stated in another post how my cousin got polio when he was a kid because my aunt and uncle were too ignorant to vaccinate their kids. He almost died and now has a permanent limp and sometimes pain in his leg. I also have a cousin who's aunt had measles when she was pregnant and her daughter was born, for lack of a nicer word that explains it better, retarded. I know more people who were affected from not getting vaccinations but forgot to mention them, like my friend who's aunt had rubella when she was a kid and the high fever left her retarded. And a friend who's baby died of spinal meningitis at 13 months old. An incident that devastated me because I was super close to the baby. They didn't have that vaccine then though. If only they did....
 Quoting: Veronica B.


So you keep vaccinating your children. First one ok. Second one ok. Third one 6 months old, dies in their sleep less than 24 hours after their DTAP shot. What will you do then ? Will you vaccinate your fourth ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



crazy crazy crazy yapping
 Quoting: Veronica B.


What's so crazy about this scenario ? Or does the potential reality of it confound your mind so much that you have to belittle those who bring it up. Typical response I'd expect from a vax-zealot.
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These diseases are lethal.
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Only 0.5% of those who get infected with measles get a very serious or fatal complication from it.

Whereas 10% of those who get the MMR vaccine get a very serious or fatal complication from it.



Which do you think is statistically safer?
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Ima keep eating steak and potatoes, drinking beer, and smoking weed. The exercise is just to keep the wife bang'n.

What will really happen is shit for you. You'll live so long that you'll spend the last 15-20 years of your life wishing you were dead and out live your mind. I watch people like you die for a living. Fuck that, not for me. Me. . . heart attack, poof, gone. Cancer, shotgun, bang, gone.
 Quoting: TriggaDre

It is always better to die young than to live to see the insult to life that is old age or its accompanying morbidities and maladies, something no one deserves nor should have be to experience or be subject to under any belief system.

At that point one has just overstayed their welcome, and should know it, but does not, because their most basic instinct of 'survival' has overtaken their mind, usurping their sensibilities and reason, and they cannot even relinquish their pathetic excuse of a 'life' because of that, when it otherwise would be a perfectly acceptable solution, and morally justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77403159

I can see your point, but don't really know how this would work out. Are there traditional ways that people did this? I want to say I've read fiction books where, say, an old wise person felt it was the end of their lives, and wandered off never to return, but I don't know how they went about it. Did they just lay down in the woods and expose themselves to the cold? Did they leap from a cliff?
 Quoting: Eilonwy

Simple. To die with dignity; if it is not one's time, one would know it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77480513


If it is not ones time, those whose time it is would not be able to explain the 'knowing' of, it was ones time.
“History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake.”
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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

A Palette is a terrible thing to waste...Lance
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clappa

I just watched Fox News and they were talking about how ignorant people are to purposely expose their kids. People spreading their propaganda about vaccines being unsafe with NO evidence whatsoever, (while there IS evidence that vaccines work) are really bad people!

I stated in another post how my cousin got polio when he was a kid because my aunt and uncle were too ignorant to vaccinate their kids. He almost died and now has a permanent limp and sometimes pain in his leg. I also have a cousin who's aunt had measles when she was pregnant and her daughter was born, for lack of a nicer word that explains it better, retarded. I know more people who were affected from not getting vaccinations but forgot to mention them, like my friend who's aunt had rubella when she was a kid and the high fever left her retarded. And a friend who's baby died of spinal meningitis at 13 months old. An incident that devastated me because I was super close to the baby. They didn't have that vaccine then though. If only they did....
 Quoting: Veronica B.


So you keep vaccinating your children. First one ok. Second one ok. Third one 6 months old, dies in their sleep less than 24 hours after their DTAP shot. What will you do then ? Will you vaccinate your fourth ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



crazy crazy crazy yapping
 Quoting: Veronica B.


What's so crazy about this scenario ? Or does the potential reality of it confound your mind so much that you have to belittle those who bring it up. Typical response I'd expect from a vax-zealot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



STOP with your fuckin' propaganda, you irresponsible FUCK TRASH! You have ZERO clue what you are talking about!
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So you keep vaccinating your children. First one ok. Second one ok. Third one 6 months old, dies in their sleep less than 24 hours after their DTAP shot. What will you do then ? Will you vaccinate your fourth ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



crazy crazy crazy yapping
 Quoting: Veronica B.


What's so crazy about this scenario ? Or does the potential reality of it confound your mind so much that you have to belittle those who bring it up. Typical response I'd expect from a vax-zealot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



STOP with your fuckin' propaganda, you irresponsible FUCK TRASH! You have ZERO clue what you are talking about!
 Quoting: Veronica B.


wow, "fuck trash". You ARE a little potty mouth aren't you. Triggered ?
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crazy crazy crazy yapping
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What's so crazy about this scenario ? Or does the potential reality of it confound your mind so much that you have to belittle those who bring it up. Typical response I'd expect from a vax-zealot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77551921



STOP with your fuckin' propaganda, you irresponsible FUCK TRASH! You have ZERO clue what you are talking about!
 Quoting: Veronica B.


wow, "fuck trash". You ARE a little potty mouth aren't you. Triggered ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38024143




Only total pieces of SHIT spread their lack of education and propaganda and call for the death of children. It's no holds barred for fuck shits like you who aren't worth the shit out of anyone's ass and certainly do dot deserve any respect! May God damn you and ones like you, as I'm sure will happen! I am calling for your damnation! Child killers deserve NOTHING!
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Just skimmed the article now, haven't read the GLP comments. Wow, unbelievable doesn't take much to put the pieces together if the article is accurate.


If herd immunity exists, it exists by vaccinating the common slave people, to protect a few elites who are unvaccinated because they are aware of vaccine dangers, yet are potentially involved in the vaccine industry!