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Im beginning to think FAITH is bullshit !!

 
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If you don't have facts faith will do.
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Faith the size of a Mustard seed, moving mountains etc.

that kind of faith.. I wont go into details. But i have had faith (COMPLETE FAITH) in soooo many things and especially PEOPLE to absolutely NO AVAIL..so you tell me what gives brah?

Is having FAITH a bill of goods that sounds real good but doesnt pay off in the end? Now dont get me wrong. I accept as true that there is a God on complete faith and have experience divine intervention several times.. etc.

but the whole. "Go in faith, Through faith, healed by faith, you can do all things with faith.. doesnt hasnt held up in the face of my life experience. just saying..

Flame on..!!
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We are in the end of days as told in the bible. Many things are coming to past and some have already occurred. The bible was written thousands of years ago. So with that said how can you doubt it's words? As told in the bible, Satan has but a short time to collect souls. Is yours one of them? damned
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If you don't have facts faith will do.
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Like science? lmao
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Websters:

Belief -
an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

Faith -
complete trust or confidence in someone or something


It is my belief, that in some way your faith is lacking.

Even outside of religion, belief and faith make the world go 'round.

hf
 Quoting: Beso


Another millenial idiot dispensing her twentysomething bullshit...

"it is my belief" said by a poster who has not the slightest knowledge of who the OP is, or his experiences etc. But thanks for your opinion snowflake. My faith would scare you. Trust me sunshine...
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little laugh Thank you for the age compliment you asshat. hf
 Quoting: Beso


Actually dearest. The ONLY ASS is the person who doesnt have ANY clue about me, my personality, my age, my experience NOTHING NADA ZILCH..yet feels compelled to dispense (TYPE) that "it is your belief that i am lacking faith?" thats bizarre. How can you even imply that about someone? It isnt logical..at all "Asshat?" lol..is that you being angry now, cause i called your lame judgemental ass out on you? HUGH...well..I think it is.. ahhhh poooor baaaaby.. so sowwy..
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So let me ask you this......is it "faith" when you walk to the wall and flip the switch that the light will turn on?


ETA: I didn't say you lacked faith, I said I believed your faith was lacking.

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So let me ask you this......is it "faith" when you walk to the wall and flip the switch that the light will turn on?


ETA: I didn't say you lacked faith, I said I believed your faith was lacking.
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Sorry Doll, this pretty much PROVES youre whack, sorry..

faith lacking same as lack faith last time i checked, but nice try anyhoo...
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The only faith that is real - is that there is more to all of this beyond all of this.

All the religious mishandling ends up being besides the point.

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people with strong faith live long stay strong illness does not show till the end.i know people like this 90 plus yrs old ,never scorned ,uttered or bad mouthed people ,they always help never complain and its wonderfull to see them sail through life with no grief ,gardening at 84yrs.
this is written in the book.they are proof no gps hospital visits ,yet others at 44 are gp every week ,tardy faith no belief hard hearted.
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So let me ask you this......is it "faith" when you walk to the wall and flip the switch that the light will turn on?


ETA: I didn't say you lacked faith, I said I believed your faith was lacking.
 Quoting: Beso


Sorry Doll, this pretty much PROVES youre whack, sorry..

faith lacking same as lack faith last time i checked, but nice try anyhoo...
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I wasn't 'trying' to do anything and I'm certainly not your "doll".

I believe you have faith, but I also believe your faith is lacking SOMETHING. Does that make it easier for you to read?

Anywho, good luck with your search for answers, sir. hf You certainly live up to your name.
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I wasn't 'trying' to do anything and I'm certainly not your "doll".
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How bout bein my doll, dollhf
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Faith without works is dead.
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Faith is not the same thing as "belief." That is why the two words are usually mentioned separately in the same sentence in the scriptures.

Faith is BELIEVING WHAT GOD TELLS YOU.

It's there in the scriptures.

"Faith comes by hearing...and hearing by the word of God."
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Faith …Does that mean Sit on your Ass and look at the Stars for all is HONKey Dory.??

I really can't stand the Type that sit on their Ass and Shoot the Shit while there is so much more WORK to be done….stoner
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After reading all of the opinions above.. and found most wanting... lets see what the good book says about it..

Hebrews 11:1 ESV

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.



Matthew 21:22 ESV

And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.



Romans 10:17 ESV

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.



Mark 11:22-24 ESV

And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.



1 Corinthians 2:5 ESV

That your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.



Scripture on Faith

Scripture on Faith
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.



James 2:19 ESV

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!



Luke 1:37 ESV

For nothing will be impossible with God.



Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.



2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV

For we walk by faith, not by sight.



Bible Verses about Faith

Bible Verses about Faith
Hebrews 11:6 ESV

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.



James 2:14-26 ESV

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...



James 2:24 ESV

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.



James 1:5-8 ESV

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.



Philippians 4:13 ES
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After reading all of the opinions above.. and found most wanting... lets see what the good book says about it..

Hebrews 11:1 ESV

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.



Matthew 21:22 ESV

And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.



Romans 10:17 ESV

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.



Mark 11:22-24 ESV

And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.



1 Corinthians 2:5 ESV

That your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.



Scripture on Faith

Scripture on Faith
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.



James 2:19 ESV

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!



Luke 1:37 ESV

For nothing will be impossible with God.



Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.



2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV

For we walk by faith, not by sight.



Bible Verses about Faith

Bible Verses about Faith
Hebrews 11:6 ESV

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.



James 2:14-26 ESV

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...



James 2:24 ESV

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.



James 1:5-8 ESV

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.



Philippians 4:13 ES
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Not to sound snarky but maybe your faith isn't as strong as you thought it was. God almighty created you, so he cannot be fooled by feigning faith. Also praying to win the lotto is not a good idea either. For it is tempting thy lord God. It's akin to jumping off the side of the grand canyon after praying to God for a safe landing. peace
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It's worse than making things up. It's believing in something that someone else has made up.
Just don't make anything up.
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After reading all of the opinions above.. and found most wanting... lets see what the good book says about it..

Hebrews 11:1 ESV

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.



Matthew 21:22 ESV

And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.



Romans 10:17 ESV

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.



Mark 11:22-24 ESV

And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.



1 Corinthians 2:5 ESV

That your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.



Scripture on Faith

Scripture on Faith
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.



James 2:19 ESV

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!



Luke 1:37 ESV

For nothing will be impossible with God.



Proverbs 3:5-6 ESV

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.



2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV

For we walk by faith, not by sight.



Bible Verses about Faith

Bible Verses about Faith
Hebrews 11:6 ESV

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.



James 2:14-26 ESV

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...



James 2:24 ESV

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.



James 1:5-8 ESV

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.



Philippians 4:13 ES
 Quoting: RichardHead


Not to sound snarky but maybe your faith isn't as strong as you thought it was. God almighty created you, so he cannot be fooled by feigning faith. Also praying to win the lotto is not a good idea either. For it is tempting thy lord God. It's akin to jumping off the side of the grand canyon after praying to God for a safe landing. peace
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And here we go AGAIN with ANOTHER GLP soul intimating that the reason i posted that "Im beginning to think faith is Bullshit" Is because "I LACK FAITH" and again i say your posit fails completely because for all YOU KNOW i could be a person that has more faith than anyone youve ever known, but faith in what? Well my faith in GOD IS ROCK SOLID !!!

I am referring specifically to the tenets of "If you believe whatsoever you accept you have" Without getting into details. I have put forth COMPLETE FAITH in person after person, after person, venture after venture, COMPLETE FAITH so much that I will work years.. did i say years?? i did say YEARS...My faith would make you losers questioning my faith pass out under similar circumstances.

I hope that makes sense without going into details.
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Faith works for the common idiot, not for the philosophical mind.
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Faith the size of a Mustard seed, moving mountains etc.

that kind of faith.. I wont go into details. But i have had faith (COMPLETE FAITH) in soooo many things and especially PEOPLE to absolutely NO AVAIL..so you tell me what gives brah?

Is having FAITH a bill of goods that sounds real good but doesnt pay off in the end? Now dont get me wrong. I accept as true that there is a God on complete faith and have experience divine intervention several times.. etc.

but the whole. "Go in faith, Through faith, healed by faith, you can do all things with faith.. doesnt hasnt held up in the face of my life experience. just saying..

Flame on..!!
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I certainly will not flame you. hf

Forgive me if all of this has already been given to you. I have not yet read through the thread yet.

The first two scriptures below, Mark 11:23-24, tell me we are to believe that we will receive what we have asked for. For me, the only way I know how to show that I believe I have received my request is to give thanks for it. Instead of keep praying for the same thing over and over. I will instead say thank you, Lord, for what I have asked for. I have noticed in scripture that Christ often gave thanks before His great miracles of feeding the thousands.

Mark 11:23-24 NKJV For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. 24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.

Now the next scripture says to forgive. Apparently, receiving our requests has a bearing on whether or not we are holding a grudge against another.

Mark 11:25 NKJV “And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.

So, that is how we are to go about moving mountains, as I see it. Patience goes with it. As Peter said, I believe it was Peter who said: Let patience have it's perfect work.

Now also, about moving mountains. We can even do something greater than that, if you are interested. We can move God.

1 John 5:14-15 NKJV Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

The key here is that it has to be according to His will. What is His will? Health, Happiness, Joy, all the virtues, and all the promises made throughout the bible. Of course there is the: If, then and Buts. (do this and the conditions, etc.) We are here to be blessed.

About trusting friends:

It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Psalms 118:8

Jeremiah 17:5 NKJV Thus says the Lord:
“Cursed is the man who trusts in man
And makes flesh his strength,
Whose heart departs from the Lord.

And there are many more scriptures about trusting man instead of God. Lord knows I have been there!

As Christ said: We can do nothing without Him.

I hope you have found this helpful. I know I was blessed by your posting.

Thank you.
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Faith made me a vice regent.
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I got more "Man up" in my ANUS then you have in your entirety
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I believed in God, not a servant of the idol god of man's religion.



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The key here is that it has to be according to His will. What is His will? Health, Happiness, Joy, all the virtues, and all the promises made throughout the bible. Of course there is the: If, then and Buts. (do this and the conditions, etc.) We are here to be blessed.
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did hitler ask for the power to kill millions of people? was that also according to god's will?

SOUNDS LIKE BULLSCHEIßE TO ME.
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I got more "Man up" in my ANUS then you have in your entirety
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orly1
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that does sound gay as hell, but my meaning was clear to him i think, i hope..
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When you find out that man doesn't have all the answers you'll be back. I hope you come back before it's too late!
I lost my apathy.
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Maybe he's testing your faith because you backslide.
I lost my apathy.
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have experience divine intervention several times.. etc.
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Without faith you likely wouldnt have
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When you find out that man doesn't have all the answers you'll be back. I hope you come back before it's too late!
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Come back where? You seem confused as most here are. Im not implying that my faith in GOD is Bullshit or The Messiah.

Im saying the conscious exercise of:

Fake it til you make it
Having seen the end you will the means to the realization of that end
Thoughts are things, not because their your thoughts, but because they are thoughts.
If you can believe it you can achieve it
If you pray and believe that you already have
YOu can move mountains. Implying Faith can accomplish anything.
The entire Ernest Holmes, Thomas Troward, Joseph Murphy et al
school of thought..

Im referring to human faith being able to manifest whatever it wants. IF you just have enough faith
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Faith the size of a Mustard seed, moving mountains etc.

that kind of faith.. I wont go into details. But i have had faith (COMPLETE FAITH) in soooo many things and especially PEOPLE to absolutely NO AVAIL..so you tell me what gives brah?

Is having FAITH a bill of goods that sounds real good but doesnt pay off in the end? Now dont get me wrong. I accept as true that there is a God on complete faith and have experience divine intervention several times.. etc.

but the whole. "Go in faith, Through faith, healed by faith, you can do all things with faith.. doesnt hasnt held up in the face of my life experience. just saying..

Flame on..!!
 Quoting: RichardHead


there is faith in yourself and your own will.

outside of that the universe does what it does.

God does what it needs to do.





GLP