It was Impossible to Fake the Moon Landing on video in 1969

I'm not missing the point. I believe the whole NASA space thing is bullshit and don't believe a single word they say about anything.

Last Edited by janedoenut on 04/12/2019 02:08 PM

Why do hoaxies lie all the time?

Dr. Van Allen himself was hired by NASA to help them design the trajectories.
They were very well aware of the issue.




Nope.
Earth's magnetic field, which cause the Belts, protects Earth from charged particles, i.e. electrons and protons, NOT x-rays etc.


So WHAT IS the radiation environment in cis-lunar space?


The ship and the suits were the protection.

Maybe, just maybe, you should read up on radiation issues before trying to discuss them in public.

The long and short of it is that NOBODY in the field agrees with you.




Believes have never proven anything.

So, unless you provide evidence to support that believe nobody is going to take you serious.

This is of course why in grown-up land hoaxies are the punchline in watercooler jokes.

You have to spend a certain amount of time within the belt in order to receive a fatal dose of radiation. The Apollo missions minimized these hazards for astronauts by sending spacecraft at high speeds through the thinner areas of the upper belts, bypassing inner belts completely.

Flat earthers and moon landing hoax conspiracy geeks are the laziest anti-intellectuals I've ever seen. Most of your 'damning accusations' are easily found with a simple search engine and a mere IOTA of brainpower.

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"The number of cardiovascular disease-related deaths among the deep space astronauts were significantly higher.

The rate among astronauts who never flew is 9%. Among low-Earth orbiting astronauts, its 11%. For the men who travelled to the Moon, a staggering 43%, or 4-5 times higher than their less-travelled colleagues.The one exception to the study was Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who passed away after the study’s data had already been collected."

Also, it's not tinfoil, you twits. It's mylar. They also lived in a well built solid piece of equipment. The mylar was merely thin heat shielding surrounding it.
That same material you benefit from in any survival kit, the crinkly blanket material.

The lunar module is a case in expert design and engineering. Something that requires a high level understanding in all that fancy math you all thought you didn't need in HS.

It was packed with equipment in a way that was designed for purity of purpose:
[link to airandspace.si.edu (secure)]

[link to airandspace.si.edu (secure)] - detailed info.


And about it being 'shot' in another country - find me a single place on earth that is utterly devoid of life a rocky location. Even the most barren desert has plant life, small insects, creatures of all type. The moon was BARREN. LITERALLY BARREN. There was no atmosphere, hence the lack of atmospheric scattering effects that happen with film as well - which explains a lot of the oddities people often point out as proof.

Seriously, it gets old. You get told time and again, demonstrably proving you inability to handle basic physics or math work.

The earth is round.
We went to the moon.

You don't need a doctorates to understand all of this stuff. But you do need to think outside of your selectively hearing bubble and be willing to admit that your thinly held beliefs MIGHT BE WRONG. Plot twist - I for a short period can claim
that I too believed we didn't get to the moon. Shockingly, however, the data doesn't bear out. We went. We came, we saw, we conquered, and we didn't even use metric.


Get over it and start focusing on more important questions like 'are we originally from this planet?'

Although I know it was technically possible to put a man on the Moon with 1960's technology, I do not discount the possibility that the Moon landings were faked. I'm sure that there was a contingency plan in place in the event that Apollo failed. After all, the stakes were very high to be the first to reach the Moon during the Cold War. If the Moon Landings were faked, then I believe there is good reason to believe that they were staged at Area 51. This would explain why Area 51 remains highly classified and guarded to this day.

I've posted several times of my evidence and strong family ties to NASA, if you missed them, that's on you and I've no need to justify anything to you. I also don't care if you want to believe in science and NASA or not. I enjoy the freedom for each of us to be able to do so.

Ad hominem attacks and name calling prove nothing either. Thus far, you've told everyone here that they are wrong and you are right. Are you aware that if you believe you already know it all, that also means that you are incapable of learning anything?

Since no hoaxie has been able to prove A SINGLE RELEVANT CLAIM EVER I will have to assume that your "evidence" falls in the same category as all other hoax "evidence", i.e. bullshit.


Which makes you imune to ignorance?


That is NOT an excuse for LYING.


Apparently you don't care for truth either.


You enjoy spreading lies?
WTF is wrong with you?


Calling out a liar for lying is not an ad hom.


I don't need to prove I'm right.
YOU, as the accuser, need to prove YOU are right.
Pointing out that the "facts" you try to use as evidence are in fact lies and confabulation is just to highlight the fact that so far you failed to do so.


That's rather rich and super-ironic coming from a hoaxie.

Hoaxies are utterly ignorant about Apollo and spacetravel in general.
They seem to be completely incapable to learn anything other than lies and confabulations, as if they have some sort of mental screen against facts.

MY evidence: every singly hoax thread in the internet.


And yes, hoaxies are the butt of jokes among people who aren't ignorant about these things.
Live with it.

I'm not a liar but you're correct when you state that I don't care about what you believe is truth. Do I care about truth in general? Yes, I do but I care more about freedom to believe whatever you want rather than your form of dictatorial forced "truth" by way of belittling tactics.

Again, name calling and ad hominem attacks doesn't prove jack shit but prove you weak both mind and spirit. You calling me a liar doesn't make it so.

I can appreciate that you are free to think whatever you will about me.

Diff country/countries were trying to debunk it because the US WON the space-race... and they had/have a hard time dealing with it.

Plus the fact that there is an American flag - flying on the moon... making it a US territory.

The orbital inclination of the Apollo Earth orbit allowed a TLi trajectory that mostly bypassed the VAB..the VAB is aligned with Earth's magnetic poles, while the Apollo orbit/TLI inclination is based on the geographic poles. They basically sped around the edges if the belts. Also, the VAB radiation is particle, which means shielding is relatively easy with common, lightweight materials. The VAB isn't some sort of insurmountable barrier of doom...just something to deal with.

...make that six US flags up there (no, we still have no "ownership" of the Moon). You don't "fake" something six times...

When did disks arrive then as thought it was all tapes just sayin

I always hear that the big argument that it can't be fake is due to the light angle in the shots. Supposedly you couldn't fake the parellel lines cast in shadows from a distant large light source.

However, why couldn't they simply use a parabolic reflector and a regular spotlight? Wouldn't that create the same effect?

I went to the smithsonian about 15 years ago.

I had heard all the stuff about the moon landing being fake so I though I would look into a few things whilst there.

I took a tape measure with me as well just to check a particular something some "crazy" conspiracy theorist had mentioned to me.

It was ab o ut the size of the hatch on the lander and the size of the spacesuit...the backpack to be precice.

As they had full sized "models" there it wawnt hard to check.

So I stepped over the rope and quickly measure the height and width of the backpack.

Then later at the lander...the one you can actually go right up to and look inside...i quickly measure the doot height and width.

And GUESS FUCKEN WHAT?...

There is NO WAY..that a fully grown man could get through that hatch with the pack on...and NO WAY or room to change into and out of that pack in that tiny space.

It was a could war thing with Russia ..

I never believed it because I looked at the photos and said no .

The lander looked as though it was made of aluminium foil ..I would never have gone in it anywhere on Earth let alone space ...

I had better not get started on that ...

They brought some of the “moon rock “ to the college I was at and handed it around .

It was black and machine cut shape ...

They all seemed happy about it ..

I wondered why it was black , well very dark grey ....

I just did not believe it ....but then I was just a girl .

I said nothing ...

Instead of infighting and or debating about the moon landing in past...

... why not nasa simply prove it by sending a robot up to the moon and have it broadcast live and non-edit video and pictures of the moon landings?

1. attach a video camera to the robot lunar on rocket.

2. launch the rocket.

3. once the rocket separates from robot lunar, the robot lunar head toward the moon.

4. robot lunar land on the moon.

5. the robot lunar can travel to the old landing sites.

All 5 steps can be done and proven by attaching a video camera streaming live and non-edit video and pictures while doing step 1 to 5.

Space gloves are very bulky, so I assume the space camera, the one without batteries, of course, was specially designed to work with those fat bulky gloves? I mean, it must have had extra large buttons etc?

I cant find any informatoin on the size of the camera, it would be intersting to see how it was used whilst wearing space gloves.

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I mean, you can see how difficult it is to perform simple functions whilst wearing space gloves.

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It says here on this NASA website,


The Apollo spacesuit was basically a one-piece suit, which astronauts entered from the back. Each suit was made to fit (custom-tailored to) each astronaut.

Each Apollo mission required 15 suits to support the mission. For the main, or prime, three-man crew, each member had three suits: one for flight; one for training; and one as a flight backup in case something happened to the flight suit. Thus, the prime crew had a total of nine suits. The backup three-man crew each had two suits: one for flight and one for training.


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Where did they store these suits on the rocket?

Also, how did three astronauts get out of the suits (if the only way in and out was from the back), once they had their gloves on?

Did they zip each other up at the back?

My mind is just boggled at the thought of how they coped with getting dressed and undressed in these suits and gloves, especially in a really confined space. I would love to see this demonstrated.

Regarding this ISS spacesuit, he mentions a battery located in the backpack. Is this a new invention or did the old astronauts use batteries in the backpack too?

I notice it was mentioned above that no batteries were used in the cameras but did they need batteries in the spacesuit itself?

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i remember watching the fake landing live in 69; I knew it was fake then. You have to be retarded to believe that we could go to the moon on TRANSISTORS, WE COULD NOT SEND A MANNED MISSION TODAY WITH OUR SUPERCOMPUTERS, let alone in 69. The backpack suit Armstrong had on was too big to fit out of the hatch AND who was filming him coming out of the beer can capsule ?

since there are pictures and video of them going through the hatch I have to ask, why do you lie?

Plus there is this video, where Astromut actually did measure using lasers and not lies like you

How much do better computers lift weight off the ground and into orbit?



demonstrably untrue.


A camera prepositioned on the MESA that was lowered by lanyard before he started down the ladder. How do you not know already when it is extremely easy to find out?

Or, how many lbfs per megabyte?




Are you telling us you didn't know it was an untruth?
You spouted a-historical nonsense in a thread about space history?

Not much better.


Your lack of effort in truth finding seems to belie that.

If you want to find the truth about Apollo you will have to study Apollo.
The real record, not the fairy tales concocted by hoax-mongers.


Words have consequences.
You accused many people of having committed crimes. In public!
You expected that nobody would call you out?

You don't get to take the moral high ground here.
Accusing people based on nothing but bullshit is despicable.


Irrelevant diatribe.
Hoaxies always decent to metadebate, 'cause they can't debate the facts.




That's not how it works.
See: Outer Space Treaty




You're only telling us that you are incompetent at measuring things.
(Or, more likely, are a big fat liar who lies.)

Hoaxies lie, it must be in their job description.

Courtesy Astromut:





Why? What's wrong with it?
And why do you think that looking at pictures is the proper way to asses the capabilities of a machine?
And why should we take your layman opinion over that of every single aerospace engineer in the world?

How is this not arrogance?

You surmised correctly.

There was a small peddle for each ring, and a number of preset indents.


Have you considered googling "Apollo camera"?

The main EVA cameras were modified Hasselblad 500 ELs.
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]
E stands for electrical. The notion that batteries can't work in a vacuum is just another misunderstanding.


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By taking the gloves off first.
The gloves aren't an integral part of the suits.
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Yes.
Mind you, the zippers themselves aren't airthigh.
They keep the rubber air seals together.


For Apollo you might be out of luck.
They were prolly to busy to operate a camera at the same time.


Yes.
They needed electrical power for pumping cooling water and for the radio.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I notice you said they did need batteries for the suits. Why did they not use batteries for the cameras if the batteries were safe and efficient for use in the suits.

Also, although you say the astronauts zipped each other up at the back, the only videos I have found of astronauts being booted up involve a whole team of people. And it's not just the female astronauts, but all of them. I cant see anyone being able to do this themselves, or to assist another astronaut once they are booted and suited themselves. It would make it a lot more credible if they could show us how it's done, especially in a confined area. It's hardly asking for a lot, there are tons of people out there willing to demonstrate given the opportunity.

If it can be done then it wouldnt be hard to demonstrate. And it would not cost anything either. Clearly a lot of suits were made and no doubt are still being made.

You do realize that the footage was misplaced and found years ago. Why do you naysayers always try to debunk the truth?

It’s because you are ignorant and lack the proper education.

Well said. These ignorant fools show their lack of common sense and education.

Bravo!! But don’t waste your time on the feeble-minded.

I had a relative that was a top engineer for NASA. He was in Mission Control for many of the Apollo flights, including 13.

There was a Reported that did just that and talked to the Engineers. The Lunar Lander is too small for two Astronauts to maneuver inside and exit the hatch of the Lander with their Space suits on!
It would have been impossible!

The whole Program was a sham.
They only tested the Lander one time before the "Mission" and it failed!

Actually, yes.

People faking Unidentified Flying Objects ALL OVER Youtube.

Quite annoying.

Lots of other things, too.