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When was Christ born and when was he baptised? The Year, Month, and Day. Revealed at last!

 
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This thread ended up being a good review. I have known for a long time that Dio used the Exiguus four year error, but I couldn't find any way to definitively prove it. The Feb. AD 17 total solar eclipse does just that. It proves that Dio is dating things 4 years too late based upon the Exiguus error, but it also proves that his astrological calculations are solid. That eclipse date is a solid date for demonstrating that Christ must have been born in 6 BC at the Jupiter stationary transit in Aries on the night of December 17-18. I'll add this to my notes. I appreciate your efforts and study, OP



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We can't know the exact day for certain as to when Jesus was baptized, but as it would be natural for John to begin at his birthday when he was 30 years old, and since he was exactly 6 months older than Jesus, the baptism of Christ by John the Baptist most likely came right within the week of Midsummer's Day, Johnmas, June 24th, Summer Solstice Week.

So, it's sometime around traditional Midsummer's day that Jesus is baptized. And if Christ came to manifest himself as the sun and light of this world, then I think in the wisdom of divine providence it was on Midsummer's Day, June 24th, AD 26.

It is traditional to read Psalm 139 on Midsummer's Day at Johnmas to think about being born and being born again and to prepare for the trial and baptism by fire. If you want to remember the baptism of Christ at Midsummer, I don't think you'll be far wrong.





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Jesus was 33 1/2 years old at his baptism which falls around March or April. So that would mean he was born in September or October. Those are good months to travel which Mary and Joseph had to do. Plus no shepherds would be out in the winter.
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This....^^^^^
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Jesus was 33 1/2 years old at his baptism which falls around March or April. So that would mean he was born in September or October. Those are good months to travel which Mary and Joseph had to do. Plus no shepherds would be out in the winter.
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He couldn't have been. Luke says he was 30 after his baptism in the early autumn when he returned to Nazareth to announce the coming year of Jubilee.

Shepherds were especially out in night vigils in Israel during December through January for lambing season as the ewes and newborn lambs were vulnerable to golden jackals.

It doesn't really get that cold in Israel. Grass grows all year long. It is a subtropical climate. Only in the heights will it drop below freezing and even then not long. If you ever visit Israel in the winter, you'll know this. It just doesn't get that cold. Ever. December is like in the 70sF. No joke. In fact, it got up to the 70s when I was there in late January. Israel is not a cold place. You could easily camp out all year and be comfortable.

There is only one month out of the year when an all night watch would have been necessary - December - mid-January.

The myth that shepherds would not have been out in winter not only ignores the actual agricultural breeding cycle of Israeli sheep, but is just a flat invention of someone's imagination. It isn't true, it's a total myth from someone who obviously knows nothing about the climate or agriculture of Israel.


Read this quote from the Israeli department of Agriculture if you don't believe it.


[link to www.fao.org]

In Iraq, the principal lambing season of Awassi ewes is in November, and in Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic and Israel in December-January.


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Jesus was conceived in late December (25th to 29th) and was born Sept. 29th....
also
As the days of Noah were/was so shall the coming of the Son of Man be...

Gen 9:29 and 'all the days of Noah were'

9/29......birth

and RISING on/in 3rd DAY

as TRUTH
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Jesus was conceived in late December (25th to 29th) and was born Sept. 29th....
also
As the days of Noah were/was so shall the coming of the Son of Man be...

Gen 9:29 and 'all the days of Noah were'

9/29......birth

and RISING on/in 3rd DAY

as TRUTH

 Quoting: yesterdays dust


Find a stationary astrological transit in September before you spew out ignorant vomit. Besides, December isn't the 6th month in the Hebrew calendar (in either the sacred or the civil calendar). Jesus was conceived in mid-April (most likely on the 17th of 6 BC when Jupiter went retrograde)

Luke 1
26And in the sixth month [Nisan, 6th civil Hebrew month] the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

The 9 month term:

1 April
2 May
3 June
4 July
5 August
6 September
7 October
8 November
9 December

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You can prove that Christ was born in December of 6 BC just using the Qumran priestly order calendar and finding when the course of Abijah would have been serving.

Luke 1
There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abijah: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. 7And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.

8And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course, 9According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord. 10And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense. 11And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense. 12And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him. 13But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.



THE 24 HEBREW PRIESTLY COURSES BY LOT & NAME (1 CHRON. 24)

01 Jehoiarib
02 Jedaiah
03 Harim
04 Seorim
05 Malchijah
06 Mijamin
07 Hakkoz
08 Abijah
09 Jeshua
10 Shecaniah
11 Eliashib
12 Jakim
13 Huppah
14 Jeshebeab
15 Bilgah
16 Immer
17 Hezir
18 Happizzez
19 Pethahiah
20 Jehezkel
21 Jachin
22 Gamul
23 Delaiah
24 Maaziah

MONTHS GIVEN IN LUKE'S GOSPEL

The conception of John the Baptist is announced to Zechariah during his weekly course of priestly duty in the course of Abijah (Luke 1:5-25).
The annunciation of Christ's conception to Mary is made in the 6th month (Luke 1:26-38).

MONTHS FROM CONCEPTION TO NATIVITY OF JOHN THE BAPTIST & JESUS CHRIST

At the first Sabbath after a new sacred year, the priestly courses return to their closest respective normal counting order from 1 - 24. The first course of Johaiarib generally begins on or slightly after the Pascha and week of Unleavened Bread.

From the week of Cheshvan 15 through 21, 3754 (Sat Nov. 5 - Fri. Nov. 11, 7 B.C.E.), the 8th priestly course of Abijah (of which was Zechariah) would have been serving. After this, Luke relates that Elizabeth hid herself 5 months. Elizabeth would have conceived sometime in Oct - Nov., 7 B.C.E..

1/-) Cheshvan (Oct. - Nov. 7 B.C.E.)
2/-) Kislev (Nov. - Dec. 7 B.C.E.)
3/-) Tevet Dec. - Jan. 6 B.C.E.)
4/-) Sh'vat Jan - Feb )
5/-) Adar (Feb. - Mar.)
6/-) Nisan (March - Apr.)

Mary receives the Annunciation in the 6th month. Mary conceives sometime in mid to late Apr.

We then add to this 3 months to bring Elizabeth to a 9 month term for John.

7/1) Iyyar (Apr. - May)
8/2) Sivan (May - Jun.
9/3) Tammuz (Jun. - Jul. 6 B.C.E.)

We therefore are looking for a mid to late June to early July birth for John the Baptist. This is the 3rd month of Mary's conception.

We then add six more months to this to find the birth month of Christ and look for a mid to late Dec. 6 B.C.E. through an early Jan. 5 B.C.E. birth.

-/4) Av (Jul.-Aug. 6 B.C.E.)
-/5) Elul (Aug.-Sep. 6 B.C.E.)
-/6) Tishrei Sept.-Oct. 6 B.C.E.)
-/7) Cheshvan (Oct.-Nov. 6 B.C.E.)
-/8) Kislev (Nov.-Dec. 6)
-/9) Tevet (Dec. 6 B.C.E.-Jan. 5 B.C.E.)

[The following priestly courses may be compared to and verified by the 6 year Cycle of Priestly Courses in Qumran Calendars 4Q320; 4Q321.]

PRIESTLY COURSES BY MONTH & WEEK

Year 3754 (8-7 B.C.E.)

Nisan - Iyyar: Courses 01-05
Iyyar - Sivan: Courses 06-09
Sivan - Tammuz: Courses 10-13
Tammuz - Av: Courses 14-18
Av - Elul: Courses 19-22
Elul - Tishrei: Courses 23-02

Year 3755 (7-6 B.C.E.)

Tishrei - Cheshvan: Courses 03-07
Cheshvan - Kislev: Courses 08-11

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Jesus was conceived in late December (25th to 29th) and was born Sept. 29th....
also
As the days of Noah were/was so shall the coming of the Son of Man be...

Gen 9:29 and 'all the days of Noah were'

9/29......birth

and RISING on/in 3rd DAY

as TRUTH
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page after page of foolishness.....and chatter to CON-fuse the minds of men.......

just BABEL....on and on....about dates and times....and the vanity of men
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Jesus was conceived in late December (25th to 29th) and was born Sept. 29th....
also
As the days of Noah were/was so shall the coming of the Son of Man be...

Gen 9:29 and 'all the days of Noah were'

9/29......birth

and RISING on/in 3rd DAY

as TRUTH

 Quoting: yesterdays dust


page after page of foolishness.....and chatter to CON-fuse the minds of men.......

just BABEL....on and on....about dates and times....and the vanity of men

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Yes, that's what you're doing. And I'm sure OP, and certainly myself, would appreciate it if you would leave. We're actually trying to have a study in this thread.

If you don't know what AUC means off the top of your head, you don't need to be in this thread.

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This is the standard rule for converting Olympiads into modern dating B.C. / B.C.E. / A.D. / C.E. :

Multiply the number of Olympiads by four and if this can be subtracted from 780, the remainder gives the year B.C. / B.C.E. when the first year of the given Olympiad begins: for the second, third, and fourth years respectively 1, 2, and 3 must be added before making the subtraction. For a date within the Christian Era (A.D. / C.E.), 779 should be subtracted from four times the number of the Olympiad.

Eusebius in his Chronicon dates the Passion & Resurrection of Christ to the 202nd Olympiad and the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius.

who reigned in about the 187th Olympiad. In her time, Augustus was emperor of the Romans, who was called Sebastos in Greek. [71] [Cleopatra died] in the 15th year of Augustus' reign. From then until the 202nd Olympiad, and the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, there are 52 years. - Eusiebius, Chronicon

Eusebius here places the Passion & Resurrection of Christ at the first year of the 202nd Olympiad and the 15th year of Tiberius.

The regnal and full reign of Tiberius began in AD 15, which would be the first full year that he reigned alone.

1) 15 2) 16 3) 17 4) 18 5) 19 6) 20 7) 21 8) 22 9) 23 10) 24 11) 25 12) 26 13) 27 14) 28 15) 29.

Therefore, the 15th regnal and full year (as Eusebius counts it) would be AD 29. This can be confusing because Luke begins with Tiberius' first co-princeps year, which was four years earlier.

Now, let's see if our Olympiad year matches up:

202 x 4 = 808
808 - 779 = 29

Therefore, the year that the 202nd Olympiad begins to be counted is also AD 29. It become clear, then, that Eusebius places the Passion & Resurrection of Christ in AD 29. If this is so, it must therefore mean that Christ was born in 6 B.C.

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What year was Christ born?

Now I made 3 videos to prove that Herod’s death, which most historians date on 4 BC, was actually 3 years too early, and that his death should have been dated on 1 BC instead. These videos are: “Eclipse before Augustus' death & Midrash Rosh Hashana prove Herod the Great's death wasn't on 4 BC”, and “Faulty Olympiad calendar caused 1 year error in redating Herod's death from 1 BC to 4 BC”, and “Co-regency of Augustus and Tiberius caused 2 years error in redating Herod's death from 1 BC to 4 BC”.

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Matthew 2:13-21 tells us that Joseph, Mary and Jesus fled to Egypt to avoid Herod, but returned back after Herod's death.

Luke 2:22-23 tells us that Mary was able to present Jesus in the Temple and perform the purification rites required for women who gave birth to a son, which is 40 days after child birth.

This means Herod must have died within 40 days after Christ was born. So if Herod died on 1 BC, then Christ's birth should be no earlier than 40 days before Herod died.
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You're mixed up.

Jesus was born and was a young toddler when Herod gave the command to kill all toddlers 3 and under. As s toddler he went with his mom and step dad into Egypt. When Herod died they returned. If Herod died in 1 BC which he did then Jesus must have been a toddler by then having been born a few years earlier. He was born in 4 BC. Bank on that much.

I really need to make a new thread that is more coherent but here was my original study work, the links are gold.
Thread: Jesus Christ, birth time, death time, return time, and the current time.
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40 days after Mary gave birth to Jesus, they went to Jerusalem for Mary to perform her purification rite.
22 When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”
 Quoting: Luke 2


After Mary performed her purification rite, the whole family went to Galilee (NOT Bethlehem) where Jesus grew up:
39 When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. 40 And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was on him.
 Quoting: Luke 2


The Magi from the East saw Jesus in Bethlehem, and Herod ordered the children in Bethlehem and its vicinity to be killed. So obviously Christ could not be more than 40 days old when the Magi saw Christ. Because the massacre of the children in Bethlehem and Ramah happened before Joseph and his family went to Jerusalem for Mary to perform her purification rite.
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You're mixed up. The Magi came years later. It was the shepherds that the angel guided to the birth of the Lamb of God.
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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Herod died at the lunar eclipse of March 13, 4 B.C. according to Josephus (Antiquities 17.6.4). This is a historical fact not disputed by any serious historian.

The reason he commanded the children in Bethlehem 2 years and younger to be slain is because the Magi had come to Jerusalem 2 years prior, the year Christ was born, in 6 BC. Jesus of Nazareth was born 2 years before the death of Herod on the night of December 17th-18th at the Jupiter stationary transit in Aries.

[link to penelope.uchicago.edu]

This eclipse of the moon, (which is the only eclipse of either of the luminaries mentioned by our Josephus in any of his writings;) is of the greatest consequence for the determination of the time for the death of Herod and Antipater; and for the birth, and entire Chronology of Jesus Christ. It happened March 13th, in the year of the Julian period 4710, and the 4th year before the Christian Æra. See its calculation, by the rules of Astronomy, at the end of my Astronomical Lectures, edit. Lat. page 451, 452. See also my VI Dissertations, pag. 336, 339. And Note that in the IIId and IVth of those VI Dissertations, I have largely shewed, what vast use may be made of eclipses, both of the sun and moon, not only in Chronology, but Christianity also; and even in the support of scripture prophecies themselves, as to the grand periods of the four monarchies, and the evident interposition of Divine Providence in the changing and putting an end to those monarchies, pag. 133–267.
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Wrong. Can't be 6 BC keep digging.
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It is correct. The only possible year is 6 BC. It makes the ministry of Christ line up perfectly with the historical year of jubilee too. And the only possible transit for his nativity is the December Jupiter stationary.

It is certain and beyond doubt that Christ was born on the night of December 17-18 6 BC.

Furthermore, the only year in the time range that a high day of preparation would occur on a Friday before the Sabbath prior to Passover is in AD 29 (Friday April 13th to be precise). And so this lines up too. Only when we have the correct year of nativity as 6 BC does everything fall into place perfectly. That was the year, and it was December 17-18 of that year.
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Do the math, 29 + 6 = 35. Was Jesus 35 when he died? No. 33 and a half.
Drop 2 years.

I'll do better math. Dec. 6bc to April 29ad is 29+5 (34) and 4 months.

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Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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Now, let's see which year had a Friday Day of Preparation before a High Passover Eve Sabbath. Passover Day is always on Nisan the 15th. What we find is that from AD 29 - AD 33, only AD 29 fits the description in the Gospels of a Friday Day of Preparation before the High Sabbath before Passover. You are left with exactly 1 day to choose from - Friday April 13th, AD 29.

Sunday April 15, AD 29 - YES

April 29 Nisan 3789
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 1 2/ 2 3/ 3 4/ 4 5/ 5 6/ 6 7/ 7
8/ 8 9/ 9 10/10 11/11 12/12 13/13 14/14
15+15
16+16 17~17 18~18 19~19 20~20 21+21
22+22 23/23 24/24 25/25 26/26 27/27 28/28
29/29 30/30

Thursday April 4, AD 30 - NO

April 30 Nisan - Iyyar 3790
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------1/12 2/13 3/14 4+15 5+16 6~17
7~18 8~19 9~20 10+21 11+22 12/23 13/24
14/25 15/26 16/27 17/28 18/29 19/30 20/ 1
21/ 2 22/ 3 23/ 4 24/ 5 25/ 6 26/ 7 27/ 8
28/ 9 29/10 30/11

Tuesday March 25, AD 31 - NO

March 31 Adar - Nisan 3791
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------------------1/20
2/21 3/22 4/23 5/24 6/25 7/26 8/27
9/28 10/29 11/ 1 12/ 2 13/ 3 14/ 4 15/ 5
16/ 6 17/ 7 18/ 8 19/ 9 20/10 21/11 22/12
23/13 24/14 25+15 26+16 27~17 28~18 29~19
30~20 31+21

Tuesday April 13, AD 32 - NO

April 32 Nisan - Iyyar 3792
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------1/ 3 2/ 4 3/ 5
4/ 6 5/ 7 6/ 8 7/ 9 8/10 9/11 10/12
11/13 12/14 13+15 14+16 15~17 16~18 17~19
18~20 19+21 20+22 21/23 22/24 23/25 24/26
25/27 26/28 27/29 28/30 29/ 1 30/ 2

Saturday April 2 AD 33 - NO

April 33 Nisan - Iyyar 3793
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------------1/14 2+15
3+16 4~17 5~18 6~19 7~20 8+21 9+22
10/23 11/24 12/25 13/26 14/27 15/28 16/29
17/30 18/ 1 19/ 2 20/ 3 21/ 4 22/ 5 23/ 6
24/ 7 25/ 8 26/ 9 27/10 28/11 29/12 30/13

John 19
Therefore, because it was the Day of Preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. 37And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.

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Herod died at the lunar eclipse of March 13, 4 B.C. according to Josephus (Antiquities 17.6.4). This is a historical fact not disputed by any serious historian.

The reason he commanded the children in Bethlehem 2 years and younger to be slain is because the Magi had come to Jerusalem 2 years prior, the year Christ was born, in 6 BC. Jesus of Nazareth was born 2 years before the death of Herod on the night of December 17th-18th at the Jupiter stationary transit in Aries.

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This eclipse of the moon, (which is the only eclipse of either of the luminaries mentioned by our Josephus in any of his writings;) is of the greatest consequence for the determination of the time for the death of Herod and Antipater; and for the birth, and entire Chronology of Jesus Christ. It happened March 13th, in the year of the Julian period 4710, and the 4th year before the Christian Æra. See its calculation, by the rules of Astronomy, at the end of my Astronomical Lectures, edit. Lat. page 451, 452. See also my VI Dissertations, pag. 336, 339. And Note that in the IIId and IVth of those VI Dissertations, I have largely shewed, what vast use may be made of eclipses, both of the sun and moon, not only in Chronology, but Christianity also; and even in the support of scripture prophecies themselves, as to the grand periods of the four monarchies, and the evident interposition of Divine Providence in the changing and putting an end to those monarchies, pag. 133–267.
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Wrong. Can't be 6 BC keep digging.
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It is correct. The only possible year is 6 BC. It makes the ministry of Christ line up perfectly with the historical year of jubilee too. And the only possible transit for his nativity is the December Jupiter stationary.

It is certain and beyond doubt that Christ was born on the night of December 17-18 6 BC.

Furthermore, the only year in the time range that a high day of preparation would occur on a Friday before the Sabbath prior to Passover is in AD 29 (Friday April 13th to be precise). And so this lines up too. Only when we have the correct year of nativity as 6 BC does everything fall into place perfectly. That was the year, and it was December 17-18 of that year.
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Do the math, 29 + 6 = 35. Was Jesus 35 when he died? No. 33 and a half.
Drop 2 years.

I'll do better math. Dec. 6bc to April 29ad is 29+5 (34) and 4 months.
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No, he would have been 34 years and 4 months old in AD 29.

Nowhere in all the New Testament does it ever say Jesus was 33 and 1/2 years old when he died and that the Passion was in AD 33, which if you'll look above it could not possibly have been. That's just a bias that assumes he was born in 1 AD, which we know is an error because Dionysus Exiguus is the one who made that error. Jesus would have been right at 30 1/2 years old when he was baptized by John in AD 26. He was right at 30 year and 10 months old when he began his ministry in the autumn of AD 26. He had turned 34 years old that December of AD 29.

Jesus was 34 1/3 years old at his Passion and Resurrection in April of AD 29.

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The star of Bethlehem was an angel but probably began as and is a natural celestial object. Years after Jesus was born was when the star moved into place. The wise men were astronomers and they had the prophecy of the God-man from Daniel 400~ years earlier in Babylon. He told them that when they see a star in a certain spot then it will signify the birth of the Savior of the world. When it moved into the position is when they sought the boy-God.
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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The star of Bethlehem was an angel but probably began as and is a natural celestial object. Years after Jesus was born was when the star moved into place. The wise men were astronomers and they had the prophecy of the God-man from Daniel 400~ years earlier in Babylon. He told them that when they see a star in a certain spot then it will signify the birth of the Savior of the world. When it moved into the position is when they sought the boy-God.
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No, just Jupiter (the king star) stationary transit in Aries on the night of Dec. 17-18 6 B.C. conjunct with Luna at about 11PM.

Matthew 2
And when they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they had been observing in the east, transited before them, till it became stationary over where the young child was. 10And when they observed the star, they rejoiced with joy unspeakable. 11And when they were come into the House, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; Gold, Frankincense, and Myrrh.

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Wrong. Can't be 6 BC keep digging.
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It is correct. The only possible year is 6 BC. It makes the ministry of Christ line up perfectly with the historical year of jubilee too. And the only possible transit for his nativity is the December Jupiter stationary.

It is certain and beyond doubt that Christ was born on the night of December 17-18 6 BC.

Furthermore, the only year in the time range that a high day of preparation would occur on a Friday before the Sabbath prior to Passover is in AD 29 (Friday April 13th to be precise). And so this lines up too. Only when we have the correct year of nativity as 6 BC does everything fall into place perfectly. That was the year, and it was December 17-18 of that year.
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Do the math, 29 + 6 = 35. Was Jesus 35 when he died? No. 33 and a half.
Drop 2 years.

I'll do better math. Dec. 6bc to April 29ad is 29+5 (34) and 4 months.
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No, he would have been 34 years and 4 months old in AD 29.

Nowhere in all the New Testament does it ever say Jesus was 33 and 1/2 years old when he died and that the Passion was in AD 33, which if you'll look above it could not possibly have been. That's just a bias that assumes he was born in 1 AD, which we know is an error because Dionysus Exiguus is the one who made that error. Jesus would have been right at 30 1/2 years old when he was baptized by John in AD 26. He was right at 30 year and 10 months old when he began his ministry in the autumn of AD 26. He had turned 34 years old that December of AD 29.

Jesus was 34 1/3 years old at his Passion and Resurrection in April of AD 29.

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Look bro, I 100% disagree with you. I see how passionate you are about how right you think you are and I am not as passionate but think I am 100% right. But I am not here to argue or attempt to convince you. You will not convince me you are right no matter what you present because I can present evidence that points differently.

I'm not sure how you got that he had a 4 and 1/3 year ministry which is not biblical or aligns to prophecy but besides that I think you're flat out wrong. Agree to disagree. I hope sometime to present a better case than I have in a previous thread which I linked to.
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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It is correct. The only possible year is 6 BC. It makes the ministry of Christ line up perfectly with the historical year of jubilee too. And the only possible transit for his nativity is the December Jupiter stationary.

It is certain and beyond doubt that Christ was born on the night of December 17-18 6 BC.

Furthermore, the only year in the time range that a high day of preparation would occur on a Friday before the Sabbath prior to Passover is in AD 29 (Friday April 13th to be precise). And so this lines up too. Only when we have the correct year of nativity as 6 BC does everything fall into place perfectly. That was the year, and it was December 17-18 of that year.
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Do the math, 29 + 6 = 35. Was Jesus 35 when he died? No. 33 and a half.
Drop 2 years.

I'll do better math. Dec. 6bc to April 29ad is 29+5 (34) and 4 months.
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No, he would have been 34 years and 4 months old in AD 29.

Nowhere in all the New Testament does it ever say Jesus was 33 and 1/2 years old when he died and that the Passion was in AD 33, which if you'll look above it could not possibly have been. That's just a bias that assumes he was born in 1 AD, which we know is an error because Dionysus Exiguus is the one who made that error. Jesus would have been right at 30 1/2 years old when he was baptized by John in AD 26. He was right at 30 year and 10 months old when he began his ministry in the autumn of AD 26. He had turned 34 years old that December of AD 29.

Jesus was 34 1/3 years old at his Passion and Resurrection in April of AD 29.

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Look bro, I 100% disagree with you. I see how passionate you are about how right you think you are and I am not as passionate but think I am 100% right. But I am not here to argue or attempt to convince you. You will not convince me you are right no matter what you present because I can present evidence that points differently.

I'm not sure how you got that he had a 4 and 1/3 year ministry which is not biblical or aligns to prophecy but besides that I think you're flat out wrong. Agree to disagree. I hope sometime to present a better case than I have in a previous thread which I linked to.

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I didn't get a 4 and 1/3 ministry. Can you even read?

Jesus didn't even begin gathering his apostles till the winter of AD 27 when he moved to Capernaum. The first Galilean ministry would have begun early that spring. Jesus is still in Nazareth at September of AD 26.

I think you might want to actually read what I've written first and think about it before you make up your mind. Because, in case you haven't noticed, you're kind of stuck with AD 29. So, get used to it, because that's the year of the Passion and Resurrection. And the year of the Nativity is 6 BC. And I really don't care what you disagree with. You're coming from ignorance. I'm coming from very hard and long study. And I'm not going to dumb it down or diminish it just because it doesn't suit your taste.

Ok? Great. :-)

P.S. Don't call me 'bro'. I'm not your 'bro'. What you are is an arrogant, ignorant pseudo-intellectual triggered asinine jackass. And I'm posting here to show you the difference in someone who knows what they're talking and someone like you who doesn't. Because I'm sick and tired of idiots like you spewing out nonsense in a pose of Biblical scholarship. K? Good.

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Now, let's see which year had a Friday Day of Preparation before a High Passover Eve Sabbath. Passover Day is always on Nisan the 15th. What we find is that from AD 29 - AD 33, only AD 29 fits the description in the Gospels of a Friday Day of Preparation before the High Sabbath before Passover. You are left with exactly 1 day to choose from - Friday April 13th, AD 29.

Sunday April 15, AD 29 - YES

April 29 Nisan 3789
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1/ 1 2/ 2 3/ 3 4/ 4 5/ 5 6/ 6 7/ 7
8/ 8 9/ 9 10/10 11/11 12/12 13/13 14/14
15+15
16+16 17~17 18~18 19~19 20~20 21+21
22+22 23/23 24/24 25/25 26/26 27/27 28/28
29/29 30/30

Thursday April 4, AD 30 - NO

April 30 Nisan - Iyyar 3790
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------1/12 2/13 3/14 4+15 5+16 6~17
7~18 8~19 9~20 10+21 11+22 12/23 13/24
14/25 15/26 16/27 17/28 18/29 19/30 20/ 1
21/ 2 22/ 3 23/ 4 24/ 5 25/ 6 26/ 7 27/ 8
28/ 9 29/10 30/11

Tuesday March 25, AD 31 - NO

March 31 Adar - Nisan 3791
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------------------1/20
2/21 3/22 4/23 5/24 6/25 7/26 8/27
9/28 10/29 11/ 1 12/ 2 13/ 3 14/ 4 15/ 5
16/ 6 17/ 7 18/ 8 19/ 9 20/10 21/11 22/12
23/13 24/14 25+15 26+16 27~17 28~18 29~19
30~20 31+21

Tuesday April 13, AD 32 - NO

April 32 Nisan - Iyyar 3792
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------1/ 3 2/ 4 3/ 5
4/ 6 5/ 7 6/ 8 7/ 9 8/10 9/11 10/12
11/13 12/14 13+15 14+16 15~17 16~18 17~19
18~20 19+21 20+22 21/23 22/24 23/25 24/26
25/27 26/28 27/29 28/30 29/ 1 30/ 2

Saturday April 15, AD 33 - NO

April 33 Nisan - Iyyar 3793
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-------------------------------1/14 2+15
3+16 4~17 5~18 6~19 7~20 8+21 9+22
10/23 11/24 12/25 13/26 14/27 15/28 16/29
17/30 18/ 1 19/ 2 20/ 3 21/ 4 22/ 5 23/ 6
24/ 7 25/ 8 26/ 9 27/10 28/11 29/12 30/13

John 19
Therefore, because it was the Day of Preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. 37And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
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There's no Friday April 13 AD29
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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Do the math, 29 + 6 = 35. Was Jesus 35 when he died? No. 33 and a half.
Drop 2 years.

I'll do better math. Dec. 6bc to April 29ad is 29+5 (34) and 4 months.
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No, he would have been 34 years and 4 months old in AD 29.

Nowhere in all the New Testament does it ever say Jesus was 33 and 1/2 years old when he died and that the Passion was in AD 33, which if you'll look above it could not possibly have been. That's just a bias that assumes he was born in 1 AD, which we know is an error because Dionysus Exiguus is the one who made that error. Jesus would have been right at 30 1/2 years old when he was baptized by John in AD 26. He was right at 30 year and 10 months old when he began his ministry in the autumn of AD 26. He had turned 34 years old that December of AD 29.

Jesus was 34 1/3 years old at his Passion and Resurrection in April of AD 29.

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Look bro, I 100% disagree with you. I see how passionate you are about how right you think you are and I am not as passionate but think I am 100% right. But I am not here to argue or attempt to convince you. You will not convince me you are right no matter what you present because I can present evidence that points differently.

I'm not sure how you got that he had a 4 and 1/3 year ministry which is not biblical or aligns to prophecy but besides that I think you're flat out wrong. Agree to disagree. I hope sometime to present a better case than I have in a previous thread which I linked to.

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I didn't get a 4 and 1/3 ministry. Can you even read?

Jesus didn't even begin gathering his apostles till the winter of AD 27 when he moved to Capernaum. The first Galilean ministry would have begun early that spring. Jesus is still in Nazareth at September of AD 26.

I think you might want to actually read what I've written first and think about it before you make up your mind. Because, in case you haven't noticed, you're kind of stuck with AD 29. So, get used to it, because that's the year of the Passion and Resurrection. And the year of the Nativity is 6 BC. And I really don't care what you disagree with. You're coming from ignorance. I'm coming from very hard and long study. And I'm not going to dumb it down or diminish it just because it doesn't suit your taste.

Ok? Great. :-)

P.S. Don't call me 'bro'. I'm not your 'bro'. What you are is an arrogant, ignorant pseudo-intellectual triggered asinine jackass. And I'm posting here to show you the difference in someone who knows what they're talking and someone like you who doesn't. Because I'm sick and tired of idiots like you spewing out nonsense in a pose of Biblical scholarship. K? Good.
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Projecting much? You can't even state an actual date.
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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Yeah, you'll soon realize that all your studies were done in vain, relying on your own intellect and coming up with dates that don't exist.

Jesus led me by his Holy Spirit and in a short time showed me the conclusion that I stand by. He died in 30AD.

Do you even have the Holy Spirit, bro? You should seek that first like he said before you perish and feel like a fool in the process. What shame shall be given to the prideful.

Remember how sure you were when you realize how wrong you've been. Hopefully you are overcome by shame and humble yourself and fear Jesus and live. Your pride makes Jesus nauseous. When you realize the power of pride and arrogance and it's deceptiveness may you become afraid and humble and not bitter. May Jesus give you that Amen.

But I feel you are probably just another self righteous viper who's incapable of being afraid of Jesus and will not receive his mercy. Because you told me not to call you bro when Jesus said we are all brethren. You are just another Egyptian Christian, belief in God without fear of him.

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Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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I did forget to mention April of AD 27 at the first Galilean ministry was the first purging of the temple (John 2).

April 27 Nisan - Iyyar 3787
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
-------------------------1/ 8 2/ 9 3/10
4/11 5/12 6/13 7/14 8+15 9+16 10~17
11~18 12~19 13~20 14+21 15+22 16/23 17/24
18/25 19/26 20/27 21/28 22/29 23/30 24/ 1
25/ 2 26/ 3 27/ 4 28/ 5 29/ 6 30/ 7

What sign showest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. - John 2



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Yeah, you'll soon realize that all your studies were done in vain, relying on your own intellect and coming up with dates that don't exist.

Jesus led me by his Holy Spirit and in a short time showed me the conclusion that I stand by. He died in 30AD.

Do you even have the Holy Spirit, bro? You should seek that first like he said before you perish and feel like a fool in the process. What shame shall be given to the prideful.

Remember how sure you were when you realize how wrong you've been. Hopefully you are overcome by shame and humble yourself and fear Jesus and live. Your pride makes Jesus nauseous. When you realize the power of pride and arrogance and it's deceptiveness may you become afraid and humble and not bitter. May Jesus give you that Amen.

But I feel you are probably just another self righteous viper who's incapable of being afraid of Jesus and will not receive his mercy. Because you told me not to call you bro when Jesus said we are all brethren. You are just another Egyptian Christian, belief in God without fear of him.

 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God


I know for a fact that you are not writing from the Spirit of Truth because nothing you write is the Truth. I, however, am writing with the Spirit of Truth because what I write is the Truth. You forgot the Truth part in your Spirit. I don't know what spirit you speak with, all I know is that it isn't the Spirit of Truth.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. - John 14

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May I suggest that instead of a spirit of vapidness, ignorance, arrogance, sanctimony, pseudo-intellectualism, pose, shallowness, complacency, and sloth some of you begin to take on the spirit of Messiah, the Anointed. Get some of these Spirits. It could only help. Of course, this might require burning the midnight oil, and for some of you, I understand that will be painful because you thought you would get it by osmosis or without employing your mind. But that's not very Holistic of you, is it? You are to love the Lord thy God with all thy Heart, Soul, Mind, and Strength. I would say you forgot all four of those, and especially the Mind part.

Isaiah 11

Then there shall spring forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the reverence of the LORD;

3And shall make him of quick understanding in the reverence of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

4But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the spirit of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


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Philip, one of Herod the Great’s successors, died in the 20th year of Tiberius, after a reign of thirty-seven years:

The traditional date for the start of Tiberius’ reign is on September 18, 14 AD.

And this is becasue modern historians dated Tiberius' solo reign right after Augustus' death which they dated on August 19, 14 AD.

Thus, modern historians calculated Philip's reign this way:

Tiberius' 20th year = 14 AD + 20 years = 34 AD
Start of Philip's reign = 34 AD (Tiberius' 20th year) - 37 years reign of Philip = 4 BC.

But, if we use 17 AD instead as the correct year Augustus died, based on Cassius Dio's account that a total solar eclipse occurred shortly before Augustus died, which could have happened only on 17 AD, then:

Tiberius' 20th year = 17 AD + 20 years = 37 AD
Start of Philip's reign = 37 AD (Tiberius' 20th year) - 37 years reign of Philip = 1 BC.

And thus, Herod the Great's death must have occurred on 1 BC as well, and Christ's birth, which happened no earlier than 40 days before Herod's death, must have been born sometime 1 BC also.
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About this time it was that Philip, Herod’s brother, departed this life, in the twentieth year of the reign of Tiberius: after he had been tetrarch of Trachonitis, and Gaulanitis, and of the nation of the Bataneans also, thirty seven years.
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There is one very interesting quote from Ephiphanius on the the date of the Baptism of Christ. It is very curious. He says emphatically (in ten different calendars) that it was on the 7th of Machevan (Cheshvan) in the Hebrew calendar. If Christ was baptized in AD 26 (Hebrew year 3787), then the 7th of Cheshvan falls on the 3rd day of the week (Tuesday, October 6th), the day the dry land arose and stood out of the waters. This is a very early tradition and it is completely independent of the later January Epiphany Feast for the Lord's baptism. This would have been exactly 2 weeks after the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot), which ended at the Autumnal Equinox.

Ephiphanius (c. 320 – 403), Panarion, Bk. 2, sec. 24, 4.

Christ lived through these twenty-nine full consulships, but in the thirtieth consulship, I mean the consulship of Silanus and Nerva, he came to John in about the eleventh month, and was baptized in the River Jordan, in the thirtieth year following his birth in the flesh, on the sixth before the Ides of November [in the Julian caldendar]. That is, he was baptized in twelfth of the Egyptian month Aythr, the eighth of the Greek month Dius, the sixth of the third Choiak in the Salaminian, or Constantian calendar, the sixteenth of Apogonicus in the Paphian, the twenty-second of Angalthabaith in the Arabian, the sixteeth of Apellaeus in the Macedonian, the fifteenth of Aratates in the Cappadocian, the seventh of Metagitnium in the Athenian, and the seventh of Marchevan in the Hebrew.'"

October AD 26 / Cheshvan - Kislev 3787
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4/ 5 5/ 6 6/ 7 7/ 8 8/ 9 9/10 10/11
11/12 12/13 13/14 14/15 15/16 16/17 17/18
18/19 19/20 20/21 21/22 22/23 23/24 24/25
25/26 26/27 27/28 28/29 29/ 1 30/ 2 31/ 3

Genesis 1
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

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Born on June 14, 1946

There even was a total lunar eclipse on that holy day.

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May the world submit to humble and honest Donald Christ and Rothschild Israel for a Masonic global order of peace and safety.

Conspiracy scum are ready to fight for their Freemason bed buddies, the building of the Third Temple is nigh.

Elizabeth Christ Trump died 666 days before the release of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Kubrick died 666 days before 2001/9-11. Donald Christ won the election in 666 + 666 + 666 + 6 + 6 + 6 = 2016, Mason Macron won in May 2017 with 66,06%, Notre Dame collapsed due to fire 666 days after his June victory of the legislative elections.

Have a nice 666