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Wolfgang Halbig still insists Sandy Hook was faked

 
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I always go with my first and basic impressions of an event because I find those tend to be correct. Later on the shills try to catch us up in minor details or they just lie and we have to spend time we just don't have as non-professionals here, trying to refute these statements. They HAVE all that time as they represent larger groups/orgs that just hand them talking point or papers and may have trained them as well, so we random posters are always at a disadvantage as most of us just don't have the time for that depth of research.

So I stick to common sense basic questions as my measure. For example, from the beginning I believed 911 was a fake - not what we were told (a terrorist attack by 19 Arabs with box cutters). I believe that because actual terrorists would not have attacked 2 giant office buildings BEFORE the buildings actually opened for work in the am. Actual terrorists want to inflict the most damage possible, the most dead possible. If they had waited till say, after lunch, with office staff and tourists the dead count from 911 could have reached TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. TENS OF THOUSANDS. 3,000 dead is the kind of collateral damage that happens when MINIMUM destruction is planned. And.....there's Building 7 which is NOT explainable.

As for Sandy Hook, I go with things like the bizarre confusion between Adam Lanza and his brother and the father and girl friend, etc, none of which was ever explained or cleared up. This was clearly a story - a narrative - in evolution as the event went on. Maybe they deliberately add in fake details to confuse us in the beginning or maybe they're just bad at narrative and try to keep their options open. Also, Adam himself, as profiled to us, was not the physical kind of person who could do this kind of damage. Not only with the gun, but getting access to the school etc. And why would they say the mother taught at the school? Things that made no sense and yet were never answered.

And as I say...where were the other hundreds of kids and staff if this was an active school as portrayed. This is no evidence of them on that day. That makes no sense. There would be pics and videos of hundreds of kids/staff grieving, being evacuated, having parents come for them, etc, and we don't see that. We see a carefully controlled situation with limited access. We see....a movie production site. IMO.

I always stick with common sense and initial perceptions and I find that rarely lets me down.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


There are photos of the kids though:

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 Quoting: TomShillington




You've got to do better than that. There were supposedly several hundred students in that school - I think 400 IIRC, and staff besides. I'm not seeing anywhere near that number in any of these pics, nor do I get any sense in the aftermath, even after 7 years, that there were more than a few dozen people involved in this - adults and kids - in total.
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But you wanted photos of kids being evacuated and there they are. There are also photos of people grieving, they are not hard to find.

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The funeral directors did not embalm the children, the coroners office supposedly dealt with them( and what they did with anything there is secret) and they were closed coffins so who knows what was even in them. 3000 people didn’t need to lie because they were not privy to any details.

Your lack of thinking about any of the details makes you an idiot or very suspect of why you are posting here.

Off topic slightly. I have a neighbor that really did lose a son in the shooting at the country bar out here in Ca last December, she has been inconsolable since that day.....tragic but a reaction most of us would expect(and pro-gun stil). Now compare all the parents of Sandy Hook, calm, laughing, ready to confiscate guns, all these odd behaviors in the first week of the “massacre”. No hysterics.
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Can you PROVE this person lost a child? Do you have pictures? Did you see the scene? I call bullshit! Insurance scam!
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I knew their son. I see the parents on occasion and have had more than one drinking evening with them and honestly it’s an act of kindness to them to just sit and listen to them talk.the mom is not working anymore for the time being, she literally is on a verbal cycle of just ranting and crying that her son was MURDERED. That’s what she says incessantly, and he was!
I can tell the husband is tortured by it all too. He lost his only son, they were very close. Now he relives it all day with his wife. I can also tell you they are Trump supporters and are pro gun. They are of the opinion that if we had reasonable gun carry laws in our county of any significance it would have possibly stopped the shooter in his tracks. I also know some of the exact details of his death, where he was, where he was shot...not gonna share this though, I will say he had no chance.

I have said enough about them that you could narrow down who they are and by extension who I am if someone wanted to shut me up.

Suffice to say, you can believe me or not, I don’t give a chit. I asked them if I could video their thoughts and they only half considered it, but I may try again and will share it if so.
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Liar.
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What is wrong with you? Did you look into the Borderline shooting? Did you notice it got very little airtime? Diid you see all the teens that had their own parade for the 2 boys that were friends that were killed? Or the recent fundraiser that was planned at a park, a softball tournament to raise funds for the sheriff who ran in and was killed, but got cancelled? Did you know it was cancelled after the Ventura sheriffs dept pulled out because there were going to be a couple of conservative speakers at the event?
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well I got this to say to Wofgang.. you haven't been able to convince many in the conspiracy world of your belief yet.
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wasn't it?
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I always go with my first and basic impressions of an event because I find those tend to be correct. Later on the shills try to catch us up in minor details or they just lie and we have to spend time we just don't have as non-professionals here, trying to refute these statements. They HAVE all that time as they represent larger groups/orgs that just hand them talking point or papers and may have trained them as well, so we random posters are always at a disadvantage as most of us just don't have the time for that depth of research.

So I stick to common sense basic questions as my measure. For example, from the beginning I believed 911 was a fake - not what we were told (a terrorist attack by 19 Arabs with box cutters). I believe that because actual terrorists would not have attacked 2 giant office buildings BEFORE the buildings actually opened for work in the am. Actual terrorists want to inflict the most damage possible, the most dead possible. If they had waited till say, after lunch, with office staff and tourists the dead count from 911 could have reached TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. TENS OF THOUSANDS. 3,000 dead is the kind of collateral damage that happens when MINIMUM destruction is planned. And.....there's Building 7 which is NOT explainable.

As for Sandy Hook, I go with things like the bizarre confusion between Adam Lanza and his brother and the father and girl friend, etc, none of which was ever explained or cleared up. This was clearly a story - a narrative - in evolution as the event went on. Maybe they deliberately add in fake details to confuse us in the beginning or maybe they're just bad at narrative and try to keep their options open. Also, Adam himself, as profiled to us, was not the physical kind of person who could do this kind of damage. Not only with the gun, but getting access to the school etc. And why would they say the mother taught at the school? Things that made no sense and yet were never answered.

And as I say...where were the other hundreds of kids and staff if this was an active school as portrayed. This is no evidence of them on that day. That makes no sense. There would be pics and videos of hundreds of kids/staff grieving, being evacuated, having parents come for them, etc, and we don't see that. We see a carefully controlled situation with limited access. We see....a movie production site. IMO.

I always stick with common sense and initial perceptions and I find that rarely lets me down.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


There are photos of the kids though:

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 Quoting: TomShillington




You've got to do better than that. There were supposedly several hundred students in that school - I think 400 IIRC, and staff besides. I'm not seeing anywhere near that number in any of these pics, nor do I get any sense in the aftermath, even after 7 years, that there were more than a few dozen people involved in this - adults and kids - in total.
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But you wanted photos of kids being evacuated and there they are. There are also photos of people grieving, they are not hard to find.

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 Quoting: TomShillington




These pics prove nothing. There were supposedly hundreds of students at this school - and staff- I see NO EVIDENCE of that scale in any of these pics. I just see a handful of people in each pic. The total involved in this project may only be a few dozen tops.

As for Shannon Hicks (I looked her up), I don't know what her deal was. How strange that she seems to be the only one taking pics at the time. The editor of the local paper? How convenient. But also, she apparently arrived at 10:00 and the "shooting" was supposedly over by 9:40 (although who knows when this was actually set up). So maybe she saw and filmed what she was "supposed" to. She was set up too.
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well I got this to say to Wofgang.. you haven't been able to convince many in the conspiracy world of your belief yet.
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Actually, most people paying attention have known it was a fake for years.

If you paid attention you would know it too.

The evidence is plentiful and obvious.
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I went back and checked - see, this is the advantage paid shills have over us as they are undoubtedly given papers and talking points and training, and probably a supervisor over there shoulders and we just have our memories unless we especially research this topic - and there were 26 people (I believe 17 children) who were killed in this (excluding the alleged Lanza and mother) and only 2 wounded. Only TWO wounded.

Of these 20 were kids and 6 staff. I am amazed at this kill rate especially among the kids. NO KIDS WERE WOUNDED? NONE SURVIVED? That seems extraordinary to me especially considering that Lanza was not a professional or well trained and appeared to be a autistic physical weakling. Why no wounded kids? And these are small kids, probably running and wiggling and not necessarily easy to hit. Not like an adult target.

Incidentally, I'm not saying there were no dead kids - there may very well have been, but I don't necessarily know their identities or the circumstances of their being shot. Child traffickers may well use victims for an event like this, for example.

Also, were there ANY open coffins or any pics of services showing the coffins of any of these people, esp the kids? I can't imagine they were all that severely damaged they could not be shown, morticians do wonders even with gang attack victims. There's no proof to us that these kids died at all except a bunch of people WE DON'T TRUST telling us this.

I understand that the officials - the coroner? (coroners are notoriously corrupt, btw) - would not let the parents see or identify their kids, which....I think is unheard of. I literally have NEVER heard of that before even in horrific crimes. How could they ID their kids without seeing them? And what parent would not INSIST on seeing their dead kid? I cannot imagine that.
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Also per Wikipedia:

"As of November 30, 2012, 456 children were enrolled in kindergarten through fourth grade at Sandy Hook Elementary School."

And staff - there must be at least a couple of dozen staff?

WHERE WERE THEY? There's no evidence of such a large number of people on this site at that event.
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You've got to do better than that. There were supposedly several hundred students in that school - I think 400 IIRC, and staff besides. I'm not seeing anywhere near that number in any of these pics, nor do I get any sense in the aftermath, even after 7 years, that there were more than a few dozen people involved in this - adults and kids - in total.
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But you wanted photos of kids being evacuated and there they are. There are also photos of people grieving, they are not hard to find.

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 Quoting: TomShillington




These pics prove nothing. There were supposedly hundreds of students at this school - and staff- I see NO EVIDENCE of that scale in any of these pics. I just see a handful of people in each pic. The total involved in this project may only be a few dozen tops.

As for Shannon Hicks (I looked her up), I don't know what her deal was. How strange that she seems to be the only one taking pics at the time. The editor of the local paper? How convenient. But also, she apparently arrived at 10:00 and the "shooting" was supposedly over by 9:40 (although who knows when this was actually set up). So maybe she saw and filmed what she was "supposed" to. She was set up too.
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You wanted photos of people grieving, I give you some and then you say they are meaningless.
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well I got this to say to Wofgang.. you haven't been able to convince many in the conspiracy world of your belief yet.
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Oh, I completely disagree with that. I think he has done a tremendous amount with his questions and his courage and tenacity to keep the skepticism about this event alive and to help it grow. I don't think most people who actually examine this case (with an open mind) believe it is as presented.
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You've got to do better than that. There were supposedly several hundred students in that school - I think 400 IIRC, and staff besides. I'm not seeing anywhere near that number in any of these pics, nor do I get any sense in the aftermath, even after 7 years, that there were more than a few dozen people involved in this - adults and kids - in total.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


But you wanted photos of kids being evacuated and there they are. There are also photos of people grieving, they are not hard to find.

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 Quoting: TomShillington




These pics prove nothing. There were supposedly hundreds of students at this school - and staff- I see NO EVIDENCE of that scale in any of these pics. I just see a handful of people in each pic. The total involved in this project may only be a few dozen tops.

As for Shannon Hicks (I looked her up), I don't know what her deal was. How strange that she seems to be the only one taking pics at the time. The editor of the local paper? How convenient. But also, she apparently arrived at 10:00 and the "shooting" was supposedly over by 9:40 (although who knows when this was actually set up). So maybe she saw and filmed what she was "supposed" to. She was set up too.
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You wanted photos of people grieving, I give you some and then you say they are meaningless.
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Obviously I am talking about photos that reflect the SCALE of 456 students PLUS STAFF (which would be close to 500 people) in that school for that event. WHERE ARE THEY? These photos only show a handful of people and could easily be staged or set up, even for an unwitting Hicks.
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Consider it. As I understand the timeline here there were supposedly 456 students, K through 4th grade, plus staff, so probably at least 475 people, in school that day.

The shooting started per police records, around 9:35 when Lanza arrived and ended around 9:40....that's FIVE MINUTES when Lanza is supposed to have shot and killed 26 people and wounded 2 more. And then killed himself. That's an extraordinary event for FIVE MINUTES.

And then photographer Shannon Hicks is somehow allowed in at 9:59 and takes a few pics of students in a line or a couple of people hugging children.

Are you telling me they evacuated a school of 475 people in 20 minutes? Including 456 traumatized and frightened children?

WHERE ARE THEY???????????
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But you wanted photos of kids being evacuated and there they are. There are also photos of people grieving, they are not hard to find.

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These pics prove nothing. There were supposedly hundreds of students at this school - and staff- I see NO EVIDENCE of that scale in any of these pics. I just see a handful of people in each pic. The total involved in this project may only be a few dozen tops.

As for Shannon Hicks (I looked her up), I don't know what her deal was. How strange that she seems to be the only one taking pics at the time. The editor of the local paper? How convenient. But also, she apparently arrived at 10:00 and the "shooting" was supposedly over by 9:40 (although who knows when this was actually set up). So maybe she saw and filmed what she was "supposed" to. She was set up too.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


You wanted photos of people grieving, I give you some and then you say they are meaningless.
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Obviously I am talking about photos that reflect the SCALE of 456 students PLUS STAFF (which would be close to 500 people) in that school for that event. WHERE ARE THEY? These photos only show a handful of people and could easily be staged or set up, even for an unwitting Hicks.
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The media wasn't there in time to get photos of all the kids leaving the school. But there are photos, like I posted of kids walking along to road, with their parents.
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I do not believe this is physically possible.

I do not believe the autistic weakling Adam Lanza could carry and manipulate what I understand are over 50 pounds of equipment to break into this school and kill - not wound - kill - 26 people in different classrooms, and then kill himself in FIVE MINUTES.

And then we see the photographer arrive and take pictures 20 minutes later and where are the rest of the approximately 475 people in that school?

I just don't believe that.

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These pics prove nothing. There were supposedly hundreds of students at this school - and staff- I see NO EVIDENCE of that scale in any of these pics. I just see a handful of people in each pic. The total involved in this project may only be a few dozen tops.

As for Shannon Hicks (I looked her up), I don't know what her deal was. How strange that she seems to be the only one taking pics at the time. The editor of the local paper? How convenient. But also, she apparently arrived at 10:00 and the "shooting" was supposedly over by 9:40 (although who knows when this was actually set up). So maybe she saw and filmed what she was "supposed" to. She was set up too.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


You wanted photos of people grieving, I give you some and then you say they are meaningless.
 Quoting: TomShillington



Obviously I am talking about photos that reflect the SCALE of 456 students PLUS STAFF (which would be close to 500 people) in that school for that event. WHERE ARE THEY? These photos only show a handful of people and could easily be staged or set up, even for an unwitting Hicks.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


The media wasn't there in time to get photos of all the kids leaving the school. But there are photos, like I posted of kids walking along to road, with their parents.
 Quoting: TomShillington




Show me some pictures that give me a sense that were nearly 500 people in that school that day. And that they were all evacuated by the time Shannon Hicks got there 20 minutes later at 10:00 (or I assume she would have had pics of LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, which we DON'T SEE).
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See....people don't think in terms of common sense ideas - they get caught up in details that might well be fake or rigged or ambiguous rather than asking simple questions like:

1. Is it physically possible for someone like Adam Lanza (or possibly anyone else) to lug all this heavy equipment, break into a school, find and KILL (not wound) ALL THESE KIDS and adults, and then kill himself, in FIVE MINUTES?

2. Do there appear to be approximately 500 people, mostly young children, in this school on that day?

How likely is this to be true, even without considering all the other myriad details that have come to light in 7 years?
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See....people don't think in terms of common sense ideas - they get caught up in details that might well be fake or rigged or ambiguous rather than asking simple questions like:

1. Is it physically possible for someone like Adam Lanza (or possibly anyone else) to lug all this heavy equipment, break into a school, find and KILL (not wound) ALL THESE KIDS and adults, and then kill himself, in FIVE MINUTES?

2. Do there appear to be approximately 500 people, mostly young children, in this school on that day?

How likely is this to be true, even without considering all the other myriad details that have come to light in 7 years?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Just because you don't see them does not mean they're not there. if the media was not there to see the children evacuating, if the news copters were not there ye to see them all evacuating then there will be no photos of them.

Was the Boston Bombing fake as well?
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well I got this to say to Wofgang.. you haven't been able to convince many in the conspiracy world of your belief yet.
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Your appeal to the room, fails.

No way that little worm hauled all that ammo in and rambo'd the place, and I might say otherwise if the adults did not act like defensive satanic atheist koshers.
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Also the gun confusion, the immediate attack on the second amendment and bill of rights, this is a stinky dog we knew long before Obummski came around through the ivy).
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For example, can you prove that Adam Lanza had a life? You can't just make up attackers. These similar looking poeople are also twins and triplets, it's as if you stupid shillington fuckers don't know twins and triplets are desired for psy ops and spy work. Stupid non history knowing dumbfucks using keyboards. Even if these motherfuckers at sandy and at warner brothers wore sacks over their heads, the simple data, from the supposed crime scene, does not fit data from similar crime scenes. School or not, shooting or not, this whole story stinks, because they had to have an isolated little twerp from spy-background, do some anti-gun shit in some backwoods controllable dickwater town. And that's what they did.
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See....people don't think in terms of common sense ideas - they get caught up in details that might well be fake or rigged or ambiguous rather than asking simple questions like:

1. Is it physically possible for someone like Adam Lanza (or possibly anyone else) to lug all this heavy equipment, break into a school, find and KILL (not wound) ALL THESE KIDS and adults, and then kill himself, in FIVE MINUTES?

2. Do there appear to be approximately 500 people, mostly young children, in this school on that day?

How likely is this to be true, even without considering all the other myriad details that have come to light in 7 years?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Just because you don't see them does not mean they're not there. if the media was not there to see the children evacuating, if the news copters were not there ye to see them all evacuating then there will be no photos of them.

Was the Boston Bombing fake as well?
 Quoting: TomShillington



Look, I appreciate your efforts for your masters, but YOU'VE FAILED. Well....no blame to you, you can't succeed with this one. The story we have been told about Sandy Hook is NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. It just isn't. Adam Lanza could not wreak that kind of havoc in 5 minutes and there is absolutely no evidence that school contained nearly 500 people on that day or that they were evacuated within 20 minutes so Shannon Hicks could get those shots of kids being marched around (which would mean they would HAVE to have been evacuated by that point).

As for Boston Bombing, why not create a thread about that and we'll discuss it. I don't want to mix events here - obviously I understand your tactic.

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The bullshit of sandy

does not surpass the bullshit of the law profession/cult.

James Fetzer, an Oregon resident and University Minnesota-Duluth professor emeritus of philosophy, admitted to violating an order to keep a May 28 videotaped deposition of plaintiff Leonard Pozner confidential. Instead, he shared it or allowed it to be shared sometime between June and August with what he called fellow “researchers” of the 2012 murder of 27 people in Newtown, Connecticut.

Dane County Circuit Judge Frank Remington ruled in June that Fetzer and Mike Palecek, of Saginaw, Minnesota, had defamed Pozner. The two edited the 2016 edition of the book “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,” which alleges Pozner circulated a fraudulent copy of his son Noah Pozner’s death certificate. Fetzer also co-authored a chapter in the book and has repeated in his blog the claim that Leonard Pozner circulated a fake death certificate for his son.

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Think for a second. A true judge would just order Pozner to spend his days studying sandy hook. It's like OJ looking for "The actual killers", you see? Posner cried so much, he clearly should then, become a sandy researcher like all us good people DID ACTUALLY DO. So Poszner can only hide behind the law cult.
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For example, can you prove that Adam Lanza had a life? You can't just make up attackers. These similar looking poeople are also twins and triplets, it's as if you stupid shillington fuckers don't know twins and triplets are desired for psy ops and spy work. Stupid non history knowing dumbfucks using keyboards. Even if these motherfuckers at sandy and at warner brothers wore sacks over their heads, the simple data, from the supposed crime scene, does not fit data from similar crime scenes. School or not, shooting or not, this whole story stinks, because they had to have an isolated little twerp from spy-background, do some anti-gun shit in some backwoods controllable dickwater town. And that's what they did.
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There was video released a few months ago with Lanza at the arcade. Of course people immediately called it fake. They want evidence, evidence given, they call it fake.
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The bullshit of sandy

does not surpass the bullshit of the law profession/cult.

James Fetzer, an Oregon resident and University Minnesota-Duluth professor emeritus of philosophy, admitted to violating an order to keep a May 28 videotaped deposition of plaintiff Leonard Pozner confidential. Instead, he shared it or allowed it to be shared sometime between June and August with what he called fellow “researchers” of the 2012 murder of 27 people in Newtown, Connecticut.

Dane County Circuit Judge Frank Remington ruled in June that Fetzer and Mike Palecek, of Saginaw, Minnesota, had defamed Pozner. The two edited the 2016 edition of the book “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,” which alleges Pozner circulated a fraudulent copy of his son Noah Pozner’s death certificate. Fetzer also co-authored a chapter in the book and has repeated in his blog the claim that Leonard Pozner circulated a fake death certificate for his son.

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Think for a second. A true judge would just order Pozner to spend his days studying sandy hook. It's like OJ looking for "The actual killers", you see? Posner cried so much, he clearly should then, become a sandy researcher like all us good people DID ACTUALLY DO. So Poszner can only hide behind the law cult.
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Most of our judges are crooked anyway, mostly Leftists. Many appointed by Clinton and Obama - and Bush who was no better. Just because a judge rules something, is just meaningless now because they do so based on their own political beliefs, and I'm sure many get paid off too. Hopefully Trump has made some inroads into re-balancing the judicial system.
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For example, can you prove that Adam Lanza had a life? You can't just make up attackers. These similar looking poeople are also twins and triplets, it's as if you stupid shillington fuckers don't know twins and triplets are desired for psy ops and spy work. Stupid non history knowing dumbfucks using keyboards. Even if these motherfuckers at sandy and at warner brothers wore sacks over their heads, the simple data, from the supposed crime scene, does not fit data from similar crime scenes. School or not, shooting or not, this whole story stinks, because they had to have an isolated little twerp from spy-background, do some anti-gun shit in some backwoods controllable dickwater town. And that's what they did.
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There was video released a few months ago with Lanza at the arcade. Of course people immediately called it fake. They want evidence, evidence given, they call it fake.
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HOW is it physically possible for anyone, much less an autistic feeb like Lanza supposedly was, to kill 26 people and wound 2 others and kill himself within FIVE MINUTES in a school with classrooms and people hiding?

AND WHERE ARE THOSE NEARLY 500 PEOPLE that would have to be evacuated within 20 minutes by the time Hicks shows up?
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For example, can you prove that Adam Lanza had a life? You can't just make up attackers. These similar looking poeople are also twins and triplets, it's as if you stupid shillington fuckers don't know twins and triplets are desired for psy ops and spy work. Stupid non history knowing dumbfucks using keyboards. Even if these motherfuckers at sandy and at warner brothers wore sacks over their heads, the simple data, from the supposed crime scene, does not fit data from similar crime scenes. School or not, shooting or not, this whole story stinks, because they had to have an isolated little twerp from spy-background, do some anti-gun shit in some backwoods controllable dickwater town. And that's what they did.
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There was video released a few months ago with Lanza at the arcade. Of course people immediately called it fake. They want evidence, evidence given, they call it fake.
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HOW is it physically possible for anyone, much less an autistic feeb like Lanza supposedly was, to kill 26 people and wound 2 others and kill himself within FIVE MINUTES in a school with classrooms and people hiding?

AND WHERE ARE THOSE NEARLY 500 PEOPLE that would have to be evacuated within 20 minutes by the time Hicks shows up?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


20 of the victims were small children in confined spaces, not exactly hard to kill.

I already answered about all the kids not shown. Wasn't possible since the media wasn't there yet.
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Consider it. As I understand the timeline here there were supposedly 456 students, K through 4th grade, plus staff, so probably at least 475 people, in school that day.

The shooting started per police records, around 9:35 when Lanza arrived and ended around 9:40....that's FIVE MINUTES when Lanza is supposed to have shot and killed 26 people and wounded 2 more. And then killed himself. That's an extraordinary event for FIVE MINUTES.

And then photographer Shannon Hicks is somehow allowed in at 9:59 and takes a few pics of students in a line or a couple of people hugging children.

Are you telling me they evacuated a school of 475 people in 20 minutes? Including 456 traumatized and frightened children?

WHERE ARE THEY???????????
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SH was a large scale planned event. Everything from purchasing the houses in a year in advance for the players. To co-opting the coroner and the municipalities. Grand in scale leaves plenty to go wrong in the details.

Very similar to the exposed illegitimacy of a president, there is a lot at stake! The fake BC with the layering, wrong nomenclature, of his birth certificate made it an obvious fake.

But back to SH, all the planning on a grand scale cannot control little details like the SYSCO food service(not delivering to SH) and the patrol car camera with a time stamp(showing no emergency nor evacuating kids) which make it an obvious FF.
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For example, can you prove that Adam Lanza had a life? You can't just make up attackers. These similar looking poeople are also twins and triplets, it's as if you stupid shillington fuckers don't know twins and triplets are desired for psy ops and spy work. Stupid non history knowing dumbfucks using keyboards. Even if these motherfuckers at sandy and at warner brothers wore sacks over their heads, the simple data, from the supposed crime scene, does not fit data from similar crime scenes. School or not, shooting or not, this whole story stinks, because they had to have an isolated little twerp from spy-background, do some anti-gun shit in some backwoods controllable dickwater town. And that's what they did.
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There was video released a few months ago with Lanza at the arcade. Of course people immediately called it fake. They want evidence, evidence given, they call it fake.
 Quoting: TomShillington



HOW is it physically possible for anyone, much less an autistic feeb like Lanza supposedly was, to kill 26 people and wound 2 others and kill himself within FIVE MINUTES in a school with classrooms and people hiding?

AND WHERE ARE THOSE NEARLY 500 PEOPLE that would have to be evacuated within 20 minutes by the time Hicks shows up?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


20 of the victims were small children in confined spaces, not exactly hard to kill.

I already answered about all the kids not shown. Wasn't possible since the media wasn't there yet.
 Quoting: TomShillington



You actually believe it is possible for an autistic feeb like Adam Lanza to:

1. Break into the school lugging 50 pounds of gear
2. Find and kill all the children hiding in various classrooms with NO SURVIVORS (and commenting as he was doing it per the adult "witnesses")
3. Kill the adults (with only 2 survivors)
4. Kill himself

IN FIVE MINUTES????

As for the kids - Shannon Hicks WAS there and she only took pics of a few people. Why couldn't she have got some larger crowd shots.

Also, if Hicks was taking pics of adults and kids marching at 10:00 that would mean the entire school of nearly 475 had been evacuated in 20 minutes. IS THAT POSSIBLE????

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Consider it. As I understand the timeline here there were supposedly 456 students, K through 4th grade, plus staff, so probably at least 475 people, in school that day.

The shooting started per police records, around 9:35 when Lanza arrived and ended around 9:40....that's FIVE MINUTES when Lanza is supposed to have shot and killed 26 people and wounded 2 more. And then killed himself. That's an extraordinary event for FIVE MINUTES.

And then photographer Shannon Hicks is somehow allowed in at 9:59 and takes a few pics of students in a line or a couple of people hugging children.

Are you telling me they evacuated a school of 475 people in 20 minutes? Including 456 traumatized and frightened children?

WHERE ARE THEY???????????
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


SH was a large scale planned event. Everything from purchasing the houses in a year in advance for the players. To co-opting the coroner and the municipalities. Grand in scale leaves plenty to go wrong in the details.

Very similar to the exposed illegitimacy of a president, there is a lot at stake! The fake BC with the layering, wrong nomenclature, of his birth certificate made it an obvious fake.

But back to SH, all the planning on a grand scale cannot control little details like the SYSCO food service(not delivering to SH) and the patrol car camera with a time stamp(showing no emergency nor evacuating kids) which make it an obvious FF.
 Quoting: uscrusader1



I completely agree with you. I think the motto of the entire Obama admin was FAST AND FURIOUS. Bum rushing the people does work to some extent but of necessity it screws up many details and also there are some basic problems in logic.

Sandy Hook was their first major effort and only succeeded because of the audacity of the alleged target - children in a school. If people controlled their emotions and looked at this event logically, they would quickly see that this event IS NOT POSSIBLE in the time frame (5 minutes), scale (~475 people minimum) and perpetrator (Adam Lanza), that they created.
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There was video released a few months ago with Lanza at the arcade. Of course people immediately called it fake. They want evidence, evidence given, they call it fake.
 Quoting: TomShillington



HOW is it physically possible for anyone, much less an autistic feeb like Lanza supposedly was, to kill 26 people and wound 2 others and kill himself within FIVE MINUTES in a school with classrooms and people hiding?

AND WHERE ARE THOSE NEARLY 500 PEOPLE that would have to be evacuated within 20 minutes by the time Hicks shows up?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


20 of the victims were small children in confined spaces, not exactly hard to kill.

I already answered about all the kids not shown. Wasn't possible since the media wasn't there yet.
 Quoting: TomShillington



You actually believe it is possible for an autistic feeb like Adam Lanza to:

1. Break into the school lugging 50 pounds of gear
2. Find and kill all the children hiding in various classrooms with NO SURVIVORS (and commenting as he was doing it per the adult "witnesses")
3. Kill the adults (with only 2 survivors)
4. Kill himself

IN FIVE MINUTES????

As for the kids - Shannon Hicks WAS there and she only took pics of a few people. Why couldn't she have got some larger crowd shots.

Also, if Hicks was taking pics of adults and kids marching at 10:00 that would mean the entire school of nearly 475 had been evacuated in 20 minutes. IS THAT POSSIBLE????
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


[link to riversong.wordpress.com (secure)]

Many entries from the report indicating the kids were being evacuated from the NE corner of the school.





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