Wolfgang Halbig still insists Sandy Hook was faked

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but when you ask questions you have to be able to accept answers.

Part of the problem is that the people asking the questions already have their minds made up. So if the answer isn't what they already believe, then they don't accept and call people shills.

Last Edited by TomShillington on 10/13/2019 12:48 PM

Pozner dropped the suit when it was ruled he could be deposed. In the deposition he would have to state his real identity, which might eventually open him up to perjury trials. I think this happened to him before as well, IIRC.

That was the claim Halbig and his group made, but that doesn't hold up anymore. In his suit with Fetzer, Pozner did a deposition, that Fetzer attended.

I do not believe that is correct.

WRONG. And just note this fact guys, this is one of their weak points, and they will gaslight you to death. There were DOZENS OFSHITTERS delivered to the fire station before the event. Search for the footage of the crisis actors filing in a giant circular line into the firestaion and out the other side. BUSTED RHYMES WITH SHOES!! As the hell footage pans around, you’ll see them. Also note, all the nametags/access badges they put on...

I can see that "Sandy Hook Facts" is another bullshit SH hoaxer site with the usual bullshit in it. Answer the questions that Halbig and others have put out. A poster in this very thread has about 30-40 of them, most of which are excellent. Sandy Hook has always been a bunch of bullshit and the Sandy Hoaxers have worked consistently to destroy the freedom of speech and other rights of anyone questioned or opposed them.

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Every picture taken inside that school showed ceilings with large areas of mold and mildew, classroom furniture stacked ceiling high blocking fire escapes. No way was that school in any kind of condition for students and staff. It appeared to be only used for storage.

It was very obvious this was a planned event. I've even read people who actually do live in the area who said something suspicious was going on there especially on that day but they've been afraid to come forward and who can blame them seeing how terribly Halbig was for just asking questions. He goes there in his role as a school safety consultant, asks some questions and the next thing he knows the Connecticut state police are there at his door in Florida THREATENING HIM? WTF? That's where they always make their mistakes, they go overboard. If they hadn't threatened people, or made them disappear as Hoagland apparently did, they might have got away with it as people have short memories. But their overplaying, like Robbie Parker, and the Ct state police, and the lawsuits have made them look much worse and have, ironically, kept the suspicion alive.

It is correct, in fact Fetzer was cited for contempt because he shared the deposition video with others. Something he agreed not to do. There is a hearing tomorrow, he has to pay or go to jail.

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Fetzer believes Pozner is really Rueben Vabner, his only evidence of that is that he think Vabner/Pozner look a like. Just saying someone looks like someone else isn't enough for a judge/jury.

My basic question from the start (among others of course) has always been....this was a school of oh, maybe about 400 students and staff (IIRC, from memory, several hundred at least). But yet, I've only seen maybe the same 20 or so adults and kids over and over, in lines or whatever and I never saw any pics of large numbers of kids being evacuated or in the schoolyard or parents picking them up, etc. Kids at the windows, or other kids in other classrooms talking about this over the years. It's the same small group over and over.

There's even those pics and a video, IIRC, or people trailing in and around the school in a line at one point and they appear to be the same people going in and out.

Very very fake.

I don't know if anything you say is true, especially with a name like TomSHILLington, but even if it were, it doesn't prove anything as the courts are completely corrupt. We see this with Trump all the time. We have to go back to the questions, not only Halbig, but other people have about the school and the event situation. Including my basic question about....where are all the OTHER kids and staff. There were supposedly hundreds of other kids and staff here. Yet I don't see any pictures or videos reflecting that.

And Adam Lanza, even if he existed, which I tend to doubt, based on their physical profile of him, could not have committed these crimes.

The whole story is absurd when you start looking into the details.

I knew their son. I see the parents on occasion and have had more than one drinking evening with them and honestly it’s an act of kindness to them to just sit and listen to them talk.the mom is not working anymore for the time being, she literally is on a verbal cycle of just ranting and crying that her son was MURDERED. That’s what she says incessantly, and he was!
I can tell the husband is tortured by it all too. He lost his only son, they were very close. Now he relives it all day with his wife. I can also tell you they are Trump supporters and are pro gun. They are of the opinion that if we had reasonable gun carry laws in our county of any significance it would have possibly stopped the shooter in his tracks. I also know some of the exact details of his death, where he was, where he was shot...not gonna share this though, I will say he had no chance.

I have said enough about them that you could narrow down who they are and by extension who I am if someone wanted to shut me up.

Suffice to say, you can believe me or not, I don’t give a chit. I asked them if I could video their thoughts and they only half considered it, but I may try again and will share it if so.

You may want to tap out at this point. You are really starting to look silly.

tree fiddy. Amazing that you can stick to those lies after all the evidence that says Sandy Hook was a fake.

Liar.

Read what Fetzer wrote about it. Pozner was there for a deposition, that Fetzer attended. So the claim that Pozner was afraid to show up for the Halbig suit doesn't hold up.

If you're talking about evacuations, the news choppers were there after the kids were evacuated, so there is no video of that. Besides, people claim the Hicks photos of kids being led out were staged. So even if there were photos/videos of all the kids being evacuated, it's not hard to figure out what the response would be.

Fetzer is the one looking silly, for a man with a PhD, he's not very bright.

But there isn't.

I always go with my first and basic impressions of an event because I find those tend to be correct. Later on the shills try to catch us up in minor details or they just lie and we have to spend time we just don't have as non-professionals here, trying to refute these statements. They HAVE all that time as they represent larger groups/orgs that just hand them talking point or papers and may have trained them as well, so we random posters are always at a disadvantage as most of us just don't have the time for that depth of research.

So I stick to common sense basic questions as my measure. For example, from the beginning I believed 911 was a fake - not what we were told (a terrorist attack by 19 Arabs with box cutters). I believe that because actual terrorists would not have attacked 2 giant office buildings BEFORE the buildings actually opened for work in the am. Actual terrorists want to inflict the most damage possible, the most dead possible. If they had waited till say, after lunch, with office staff and tourists the dead count from 911 could have reached TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. TENS OF THOUSANDS. 3,000 dead is the kind of collateral damage that happens when MINIMUM destruction is planned. And.....there's Building 7 which is NOT explainable.

As for Sandy Hook, I go with things like the bizarre confusion between Adam Lanza and his brother and the father and girl friend, etc, none of which was ever explained or cleared up. This was clearly a story - a narrative - in evolution as the event went on. Maybe they deliberately add in fake details to confuse us in the beginning or maybe they're just bad at narrative and try to keep their options open. Also, Adam himself, as profiled to us, was not the physical kind of person who could do this kind of damage. Not only with the gun, but getting access to the school etc. And why would they say the mother taught at the school? Things that made no sense and yet were never answered.

And as I say...where were the other hundreds of kids and staff if this was an active school as portrayed. This is no evidence of them on that day. That makes no sense. There would be pics and videos of hundreds of kids/staff grieving, being evacuated, having parents come for them, etc, and we don't see that. We see a carefully controlled situation with limited access. We see....a movie production site. IMO.

I always stick with common sense and initial perceptions and I find that rarely lets me down.

Because the news copters were not there yet. Do you think the Hicks photos were staged?

No, there AREN'T any pics of hundreds of kids and staff being evacuated or even being in the area AT ALL. There aren't pics of all the parents picking them up. There aren't interviews with OTHER students through the years about SH and how it affected them. In fact, there only seems to be a small group of people effected by this, both then and now.

That is not possible in an active school with hundreds of kids and students. It just isn't. There WOULD be pics and vids of them milling about, crying, etc. And there AREN'T.

We don't need news copters to take pics of hundreds of parents and kids in the area being evacuated or picking up kids, etc. People have CELL PHONES even back then. And we don't need news copters, there would be pics from just locals. There is literally NO EVIDENCE that there was anything involved with this event but a relatively small bunch of people, probably well under 50 including "cops" staff, kids etc.

Your fallback position, whenever one of these events occurs is "well, we have no proof, but if we did, you wouldn't believe it anyway".

It's almost comical.

There are photos of the kids though:

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Were the Hicks photos staged?

I don't know what the Hicks photos are by name - is that the woman who took the pics of the few students & teachers walking around in a line? If that's what you mean, yes, I do personally believe those were staged. Compared to the actual large student body supposedly in that school, this was a tiny group of people.

Where are the other 400?

Yeah. I didn't think so.

You've got to do better than that. There were supposedly several hundred students in that school - I think 400 IIRC, and staff besides. I'm not seeing anywhere near that number in any of these pics, nor do I get any sense in the aftermath, even after 7 years, that there were more than a few dozen people involved in this - adults and kids - in total.

Anyway, I have to get moving along so I have to leave this thread for now. Just don't want the shills to think I'm not answering or ignoring them, but like most people, I'm not paid to sit in a cubicle and push piles of bullshit. Got to do some real life things.

Carry on folks, fight the good fight. I'll check in later.