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Have any Christians on here actually ever read the Quran?

 
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"I practice the highest calling on Earth for humans."

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Are you saying Britney never got anything right?
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The reason why i ask is because i want to know if any Christians have actually studied any type of theology and putting all bias aside about what Muslims are like and terrorism and whatever, what makes you believe that what Christianity teaches is true? What makes you put your trust in the Bible when we know it has been corrupted? How can you stand on a source that has been proven to have been changed over time?

It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam.

Every single time i see a Christian convert, it's an educated well read Christian who has put hours into studying it. I notice that most of the Christians who preach Christianity and trash Islam on places like GLP don't really know much about either faith and are basically just cultural Christians, rather than pious dedicated Christians who know their scripture. Most Christians on here just have to appear to be Christians because they think Islam is some weird obscure religion for people from another part of the world.

Even Sinead O'Connor said it recently when she converted over to Islam she said something like "any sane theologian who studies it can only arrive at Islam"


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I stopped reading that after getting to the part that said that Mary was the daughter of Abraham. They skipoed quite a few generations!
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WHY IS THERE NO VOTE OPTION ON THIS THREAD?P
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Baal Worship is expressly prohibited by Jevvs or Christians

but you go ahead!

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I read it when I was in the Army to see if I could get into their heads.

I'm not a blank statist, I think people are different in a lot more ways than skin color and how we understand the world is perhaps the most distinctive feature. The Koran is not a book that clicks with a Western worldview.

I wish it were just a question of religious differences, but if that's how you see it than there's never going to be a peaceful resolution. Islam is a commandment to conquer the unbeliever and either convert them to the faith or to rid the world of the infidel. It runs through the entire thing, like a military SOP. The Koran is a field manual for the spread of a theocratic empire.
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Imagine if you will a religion that calls for its followers to kill all those who insult it? That's more to satan's requirements, and has nothing to do with God. Christianity's existence is an insult to islam. And people somehow think there will be peace between islam and Christianity? God Himself says wars and rumors of wars until the last day for a reason.
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Has Islam undergone a single reformation since the times of Mohammed? Christians have at least adopted their beliefs to modern times.
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I started to. At least give me credit for having an open mind.

But then again there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around isn't there???

All I know is every kid with a rocket launcher on his shoulder is named MOHAMMED!!
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I wipe my ass with it, does that count?
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"It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam."

That is a COMPLETE LIE. Please show your evidence. I'll be waiting.

Can't believe someone would even post this shit.
I've read both, and no I am not turning into a mus.
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...most Christians haven't even read the bible...it's not a requirement of Christianity. Anyone claiming that one thing is better than another without knowing both is speaking from ignorance. How can you say a Bentley handles better than a Honda unless you've driven both? Because you heard it from someone else?
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

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"It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam."

That is a COMPLETE LIE. Please show your evidence. I'll be waiting.

Can't believe someone would even post this shit.
I've read both, and no I am not turning into a mus.
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The thing is that you can practice Islam and, in your heart, still accept that Christ is the Messiah.

The idea that the two are incompatible is an idea that is only held on to by total assholes.
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"It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam."

That is a COMPLETE LIE. Please show your evidence. I'll be waiting.

Can't believe someone would even post this shit.
I've read both, and no I am not turning into a mus.
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I've read both too, and honestly, after growing up on and reading the bible, it's difficult to understand the Quran, the layout and speech is much different.
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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I dislike Islam, not becausde I do not understand it because I do.

I also understand the techings of Jesus, which at its most pure level, was proposed by THE most perfect human being who has ever walked the Earth. Christ!
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No you don't understand the teachings of Jesus or you wouldn't be saying that God is a Trinity with images of God portrayed in your churches.

Muslims believe God is One and don't make any images of God because they know what the 10 commandments are, unlike Christians on GLP.
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And yet they adhere to the most pagan practice of bowing/circling/ worshiping a meteorite and adopting symbol of moon and star much like ancient Diana cult who also shouted our god is the greatest.
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Here is a question for you.

Have you ever been to places in the west that are dominant Muslim neighborhoods ?

Do you see how dirty and littered their streets are?

Do u feel you are in the same country?
 Quoting: elitedestini


Yes. I live near neighborhoods that you describe.

But what does that have to do with Islam and the belief system which makes one a Muslim? What you're describing is a cultural issue where immigrants from places like pakistan and Somalia which just happen to be Muslim countries dump their trash in the streets. Because these people behave like that does not mean they are behaving like that in accordance with Islam.

Indians who are Hindu also dump their litter. There are plenty of Black Christians in the inner cities who have no pride in where they live.

None of this has anything to do with the core tenets of the faiths of these people.
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Yes it does. God created all of the earth and the animals for man and they are to be treated with respect.

As both the Quran and the bible believe in God the creator that would be the very basic of the basis than.

You do realize that millions of Muslims have not actually read the Quran theirselves right? Particularly in Africa where books are precious and few like education........
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Baal Worship is expressly prohibited by Jevvs or Christians

but you go ahead!


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muslims are evil, they do the devils work.
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There are no sane theologians, just deluded fools praying to their God on the sky. The bane humanity has become can not be eliminated soon enough.
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The reason why i ask is because i want to know if any Christians have actually studied any type of theology and putting all bias aside about what Muslims are like and terrorism and whatever, what makes you believe that what Christianity teaches is true? What makes you put your trust in the Bible when we know it has been corrupted? How can you stand on a source that has been proven to have been changed over time?

It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam.

Every single time i see a Christian convert, it's an educated well read Christian who has put hours into studying it. I notice that most of the Christians who preach Christianity and trash Islam on places like GLP don't really know much about either faith and are basically just cultural Christians, rather than pious dedicated Christians who know their scripture. Most Christians on here just have to appear to be Christians because they think Islam is some weird obscure religion for people from another part of the world.

Even Sinead O'Connor said it recently when she converted over to Islam she said something like "any sane theologian who studies it can only arrive at Islam"


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75915496


The dead sea scrolls prove the text has not been corrupted.

What has been "corrupted" is some of the translations but that is only relevant for deep theological study. Otherwise the bible proves it's themes by an overall understanding of the text (it repeats it's thematic insights over and over).

Anyone doing deep theological study must go back to the original Hebrew/Greek and study sociological history and geography. If you can't or won't do that then you must read 2 or 3 translations completely through to gain basic (but not deep) understanding of thr themes and nature of the book.

I don't "trash" Islam. I believe Allah is real. Read Psalm 82 and 89. He is a lesser corrupted creation of Yahweh Almighty. He is a fallen one seeking glory. Therefore, I believe Islam is of the devil. So no I do not read the Quaran, because I have a thorough understanding of it's origin.

Sinead O'Connor is self described as very mentally ill. She is the perfect candidate for deception.

May Yahweh God bless your seeking with truth.

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You're the only one who gets to choose your vision... is the glass half empty or half full?

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Im going to make a post and it is the only post that matters here.





Your fake religion is dividing humanity and harboring evil, evil people. This will not change until the religion is abolished. Christianity, also harboring evil.
So, we have an evil cult here in this thread, asking another evil cult why they don't like their evil cult? You think justifying your cult to another cult is going to make things Ok?





How about we drop the cults and unite toward a common enemy?
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I read it. Considered converting to Islam, but I prayed for 3 weeks straight and God gave me some answers.

Islam denies the deity of Christ, denies the crucifixion, denies the resurrection, denies that Jesus is God's only Son.


Islam is not for me. It's contrary to the truth.
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Dude. None of that shit exists... free your mind from ALL religion...
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"It seems that most Christians once they actually start studying theology and looking at the main beliefs associated with it, they come to the conclusion that Islam makes more sense than Christianity and they change over to Islam."

That is a COMPLETE LIE. Please show your evidence. I'll be waiting.

Can't believe someone would even post this shit.
I've read both, and no I am not turning into a mus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75852509


The thing is that you can practice Islam and, in your heart, still accept that Christ is the Messiah.

The idea that the two are incompatible is an idea that is only held on to by total assholes.
 Quoting: Ever_the_Meridian


GOM-wishcrap7 Someone holding the idea that Christianity and islam are compatible is one completely void of Truth. Righteousness has no place with those who practice unrighteousness.dragnet-facts45
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I read it. Considered converting to Islam, but I prayed for 3 weeks straight and God gave me some answers.

Islam denies the deity of Christ, denies the crucifixion, denies the resurrection, denies that Jesus is God's only Son.


Islam is not for me. It's contrary to the truth.
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because Satan...


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I haven’t t read the Satanic “bible” either.
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Here is a question for you.

Have you ever been to places in the west that are dominant Muslim neighborhoods ?

Do you see how dirty and littered their streets are?

Do u feel you are in the same country?
 Quoting: elitedestini


Yes. I live near neighborhoods that you describe.

But what does that have to do with Islam and the belief system which makes one a Muslim? What you're describing is a cultural issue where immigrants from places like pakistan and Somalia which just happen to be Muslim countries dump their trash in the streets. Because these people behave like that does not mean they are behaving like that in accordance with Islam.

Indians who are Hindu also dump their litter. There are plenty of Black Christians in the inner cities who have no pride in where they live.

None of this has anything to do with the core tenets of the faiths of these people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75915496

NO....they are a reflection on thier low culture, swinish way and retard fake religion? Trash is trash. Islam is a bogus joke.

Simple. The christian God does not call for the killing of infidels. It really has nothing to do with the fact that some guy existed or not. People can believe what they want. When they start using those beliefs to harm others then I have a problem with that. And no I don't support the US government using God as an excuse to bomb nations.
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Uh....?? "And those who would not that i rule over them, bring here and slay before me" - new testament. The evangelicals DREAM! Get to do revenge for JESUS!

I was raised Christian but quit that shit after confirmation.

Since then I’ve read every single religious document available on earth. Front to back. From the Vedas to cult manuscripts.

All religions are based on aliens or hybrid aliens.

There’s nothing mystical.

Now I practice astral projection and remote viewing. There is no higher calling for earth humans.

One astral projection instantly propels you in spiritual rank to the level of prophets. And it also makes you a defacto quantum physicist.
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pffft-spitsmokeputin
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“You think you know, but you have no idea.” -Britney Spears
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I know self induced psychosis and delusion when I see it tho?

islam is also NOT ABRAHAMIC
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Yes? Yes it is? Both hoos and mozzos claim that.
I am not "abrahamic". I had ancestors of much better species, but i read plenty of bible and religious texts.
What I got? "God is true".
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muslims are evil, they do the devils work.
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...I'm sure there is a Muslim somewhere thinking the same thing about Christians...there is a lot of ignorance on both sides that won't even allow dialogue. Both believe they are right and everything else is wrong. There is only one inevitable end...
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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...most Christians haven't even read the bible...it's not a requirement of Christianity. Anyone claiming that one thing is better than another without knowing both is speaking from ignorance. How can you say a Bentley handles better than a Honda unless you've driven both? Because you heard it from someone else?
 Quoting: Baal Molech


Actually, knowing even a brief history of Mohammed compared with that of Christ gives a "a-ha" awareness of the difference between the two religions. Also, knowing major aspects of most Islam-dominated nations compared with those dominated by Christianity is another "a-ha" moment.

A lot of this, however, is also influenced by culture and politics, by the political left and the political right.

The very fact most of the "touchy-feely" reactions in the West towards Muslims and Islam are coming from mainly raunchy liberals/leftists, and most of the brutality and suffering of non-Muslims is coming from reactionaries/"conservatives" - as defined by Westerners looking at Middle Easterners - in countries like Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, etc, is a window into the real nature of what's going on.


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Evil text written by schizophrenia and taken seriously by sick old deranged incels.


Anyone believing in the evil text have zero integrity and can not be saved.

Forever living this cycle as a simple cockroach believing cockroaches are close to Nirvana.


muslims and jws ... * THROWING UP in my mouth!! every time those cockroaches are mentioned anywhere.

Disgusting demonic failures.














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I read it. Considered converting to Islam, but I prayed for 3 weeks straight and God gave me some answers.

Islam denies the deity of Christ, denies the crucifixion, denies the resurrection, denies that Jesus is God's only Son.


Islam is not for me. It's contrary to the truth.
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Dude. None of that shit exists... free your mind from ALL religion...
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You have “religion”

You just made yourself your own god.
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*Sigh

The end of Islam is at the door and for everyone who has endorsed or believed in it.

The God of Israel is going to show YOU directly which God is real.
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Scientific Errors

Quran is full of them, simple as that. It says that asteroids, planets and stars are for shooting devils that try to listen to the heavens. Its says that a famous general (not named but is believed to be Alexander the Great) has found the sun to be setting in a hot muddy water spring. It says that an ant spoke and that King Solomon heard it. It says that heaven (the sky) was raised and is being held so that it won’t fall on earth
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