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He'll be suicided. Watch.
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It will be declared an accident, if so. Watch.
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Accidentally shot himself twice behind his left ear. Yup.
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With two different caliber guns, like Vince Foster (Hillary).
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PARIS — Inside the cavernous cathedral of Notre-Dame in Paris, the last Mass of the day was underway on Monday of Holy Week when the first fire alarm went off. It was 6:20 p.m., 25 minutes before the heavy wooden doors were scheduled to close to visitors for the day.

Worshipers, sightseers and staff were ushered out, and someone went up to check the most vulnerable part of the medieval structure — the attic, a lattice of ancient wooden beams known as “the forest” — but no fire was found, Rémy Heitz, the Paris prosecutor, said on Tuesday.

At 6:43 p.m., another alarm rang. It was just 23 minutes later, but when they returned to the attic, it was clear they had a major problem: It was on fire.
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"The fire protection set up in the cathedral was at its highest level"

"The fire could not start from a short circuit, from a single incident. It takes a real heat load at the start to launch such a disaster. Oak is a particularly hard wood. "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019466


If there was rot in the oak that is an easy place for an ember to start a fire.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


Another brilliant GLP sleuth. Brilliant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


IKR

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retarded video
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not a retarded thread, but not pinned

Thread: Updates on the Norte Dame fire
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Why did it take 90 mins for them to even start putting flames out? How could have possibly taken so long?
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In Paris they actually have fire fighters respond to calls on a motorcycle with a fire extinguisher. First attack.

You simply cannot drive a fire engine through that traffic.

= = = = = =

Everything about this fire is a nightmare for the fire fighters.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


It's on an island in the river, for one thing. With bridges with traffic as the only access points.
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Why did it take 90 mins for them to even start putting flames out? How could have possibly taken so long?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77559537


It's France. Same reason princess Diana died.
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"The fire protection set up in the cathedral was at its highest level"

"The fire could not start from a short circuit, from a single incident. It takes a real heat load at the start to launch such a disaster. Oak is a particularly hard wood. "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019466


Anyone that has ever tried to start a fire with oak knows that. It's almost impossible to start a fire with oak unless you have some solf wood to get it going.

This fire was obviously not an accident from the git go. Nobody wants to talk about the 2000 churches torched and desecrated by muslims in the last several years.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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I worked on a major rail road in maintenance.
I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile.
The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose.
Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties
unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties
and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is
injected into the ties and may not always get to the center.

Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers
or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would
be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames
for quite a while.

You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse?
On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of
bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without
sacrificing the timbers strength.

I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick
layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams?
The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood.

I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience
if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is
legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


Is this a cut/paste? Its written in first person but the format indicates it was copied from somewhere else.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


Yes. It is first person.
I retired from a major railroad 3 years ago.
Maybe my education in the '60s and early '70 is an indication of better writing skills than those
indoctrinated in the current government school system.
It is not cut and pase.
I wrote this from scratch a few minutes ago.
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There's s video of a guy dressed in a white robe and a towel wrapped around his head running up stairs.

There were reports of ufos over head they could of been ours using energy weapons. the first explanation is probably it though.
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We burn wood for heat, oak burns hot and for a long time, but it is extremely hard to ignite and keep burning at first, even old oak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47921482


Something about the fire stinks to high heaven.

Just like the still ambiguous nature of the massacre in Las Vegas two years ago. "Investigators" concluded they still don't know the motive of the killer(s).

Or the incoming missile alert sent to the cell phones of people in Hawaii last year. An alert which was blamed on operator error. A supposed error that the person who triggered the alarm (and fired after the incident) said in a hidden-face TV news interview he'd do all over again if facing the same circumstances.

There are a lot of cunning Comeys, Brennans, Obamas, Macrons, Merkels, Hillarys in major positions of power throughout key agencies in the US and Europe, including France. People who are innately dishonest, greedy, leftwing and irresponsible. Their ideology - full of irrationality and deception - can easily make them very inhumane too.

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Why did it take 90 mins for them to even start putting flames out? How could have possibly taken so long?
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It's France. Same reason princess Diana died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76765133


In France they send a medic with a little medical bag to try and save accident victims.

In America we scoop up whatever is left of accident victims and rush them to emergency rooms where all the trained doctors and fabulous equipment resides.

Shrug.
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The architect says there was no renovation at the site where the fire first broke out. This excludes welding conspiracy theories etc. Furthermore, the architect says 800-year-old oak does not catch fire without an accelerent. Security protocols were put in place to prevent this type of catastrophe according to numerous reports... No lack of suspects for this terror attack either... deep state, antifa, or other terror groups.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70821186


Precisely. Incase you did not know old oak does not catch fire it would just charr on the outer layer creating a fire resistant layer.
FACT!

We all saw the video footage of that binlarden looking guy poring petrol on the roof.
It's time to start addressing the issue that it might well have been a religious hate crime or terrorist attack.
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"The fire protection set up in the cathedral was at its highest level"

"The fire could not start from a short circuit, from a single incident. It takes a real heat load at the start to launch such a disaster. Oak is a particularly hard wood. "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019466


If there was rot in the oak that is an easy place for an ember to start a fire.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


Another brilliant GLP sleuth. Brilliant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


Not brilliant, inspections had taken place before the project bid. Need to find the inspection report, but the wood was in pristine condition.

Again, not brilliant because aged hard woods are hard to start on fire.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77033694


"The fire was not able to start from a short circuit, from a simple one-off incident.It takes a real heat load at the start to launch such a disaster.The oak is a particularly resistant wood."
I came. I saw. I Concorde.

For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.

"I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM."
Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew
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and just like 911 those who profess this was not a construction accident and want the truth will be labelled as extremist. And soon the world will forget , accept the new SJW Cathedral and we fall further into Tyranny .
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Wonder if he saw the vid of the muzzrat walking about in it as it started to burn
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and just like 911 those who profess this was not a construction accident and want the truth will be labelled as extremist. And soon the world will forget , accept the new SJW Cathedral and we fall further into Tyranny .
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Combustion accelerator.

burnit
I came. I saw. I Concorde.

For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.

"I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM."
Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew
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When all is said and done, the French politicians will never allow this to be called a terrorist action. They won't change their stance.


If anything is going to be done, it will be by the French people when they've had enough. The 2015 November 13th Paris terrorist shootings killed 130 people. That wasn't enough to force change. Will taking down an iconic religious treasure result in action? We'll see.

I'll guarantee this---if they DON'T do something, these crimes of humanity will only increase in frequency and scale.

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This video lays it out in spades.
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The big bell of Notre Dame weighs 13 tons and is called Emmanuel!

Coincidence?
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"The fire protection set up in the cathedral was at its highest level"

"The fire could not start from a short circuit, from a single incident. It takes a real heat load at the start to launch such a disaster. Oak is a particularly hard wood. "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019466


If there was rot in the oak that is an easy place for an ember to start a fire.
 Quoting: BilloutWest


tards abound. try starting a fire with rotten wood.

IT DOESN'T

so many opinions from people with no fkn clue about anything except the insanity rolling around in their heads.
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Surprised we haven't seen any group claiming responsibility for starting the fire.
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He has a personal legal interest in denying it was an accident.
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Others have political and geostrategic interest in denying it was deliberately started.
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The black smoke was a petroleum based fuel. Oil, diesel, whatever.

This was not a ‘wood’ fire.

They could’ve torched it with something else. But they ‘wanted’ BLACK smoke.

You know when a new Pope is selected they either send up white smoke or black smoke to indicate if a final decision has been made?

Well, I bet the Antichrist just got elected in some sort of demonic ceremony.

Guess who’s wife was ‘coincidentally’ river cruising and saw the whole thing?

No co-incidences.
 Quoting: Steamer


WHOSE WIFE WAS THERE AND SAW THE WHOLE THING, please?
I NEED to know!!
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When all is said and done, the French politicians will never allow this to be called a terrorist action. They won't change their stance.


If anything is going to be done, it will be by the French people when they've had enough. The 2015 November 13th Paris terrorist shootings killed 130 people. That wasn't enough to force change. Will taking down an iconic religious treasure result in action? We'll see.

I'll guarantee this---if they DON'T do something, these crimes of humanity will only increase in frequency and scale.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo



They claimed they could exclude a terrorist attack while the fire was still burning.
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When all is said and done, the French politicians will never allow this to be called a terrorist action. They won't change their stance.


If anything is going to be done, it will be by the French people when they've had enough. The 2015 November 13th Paris terrorist shootings killed 130 people. That wasn't enough to force change. Will taking down an iconic religious treasure result in action? We'll see.

I'll guarantee this---if they DON'T do something, these crimes of humanity will only increase in frequency and scale.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo



They claimed they could exclude a terrorist attack while the fire was still burning.
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I worked on a major rail road in maintenance.
I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile.
The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose.
Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties
unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties
and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is
injected into the ties and may not always get to the center.

Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers
or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would
be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames
for quite a while.

You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse?
On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of
bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without
sacrificing the timbers strength.

I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick
layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams?
The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood.

I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience
if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is
legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


Is this a cut/paste? Its written in first person but the format indicates it was copied from somewhere else.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


Yes. It is first person.
I retired from a major railroad 3 years ago.
Maybe my education in the '60s and early '70 is an indication of better writing skills than those
indoctrinated in the current government school system.
It is not cut and pase.
I wrote this from scratch a few minutes ago.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


good info. And accurate.

Problem is... French GOVERNMENT won't admit we are at war. Don't know what they are waiting for. If they are waiting for Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) and just fighting hundreds of "lone wolves" then we will die of 1000 cuts.





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