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Simple27 User ID: 74957172 United States 04/17/2019 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PARIS — Inside the cavernous cathedral of Notre-Dame in Paris, the last Mass of the day was underway on Monday of Holy Week when the first fire alarm went off. It was 6:20 p.m., 25 minutes before the heavy wooden doors were scheduled to close to visitors for the day. Quoting: Ostria1 Worshipers, sightseers and staff were ushered out, and someone went up to check the most vulnerable part of the medieval structure — the attic, a lattice of ancient wooden beams known as “the forest” — but no fire was found, Rémy Heitz, the Paris prosecutor, said on Tuesday. At 6:43 p.m., another alarm rang. It was just 23 minutes later, but when they returned to the attic, it was clear they had a major problem: It was on fire. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Who is that someone who went to check initially when there was no fire in the attic? ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77406900 Canada 04/17/2019 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked on a major rail road in maintenance. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile. The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose. Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is injected into the ties and may not always get to the center. Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames for quite a while. You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse? On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without sacrificing the timbers strength. I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams? The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood. I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set. yes very sensible...even more sensible is that the scaffolding being used during the restoration isn't 1000 year old oak trees ok?..I know they like to restore things kind of to original but they DONT NEED SAME YEAR SCAFFOLDING AND TOOLS AND SHIT!! according to that logic...maybe a cheap pin or dowel or hammer handle was made from cheap wood and easily caused the fire!! Especially the cheap recreated tools they must use to do the fulll recreated restoration!! PPPFFFTTTT!! |
***SUPERFLY*** User ID: 75817200 United States 04/17/2019 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked on a major rail road in maintenance. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile. The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose. Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is injected into the ties and may not always get to the center. Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames for quite a while. You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse? On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without sacrificing the timbers strength. I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams? The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood. I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set. Is this a cut/paste? Its written in first person but the format indicates it was copied from somewhere else. Yes. It is first person. I retired from a major railroad 3 years ago. Maybe my education in the '60s and early '70 is an indication of better writing skills than those indoctrinated in the current government school system. It is not cut and pase. I wrote this from scratch a few minutes ago. good info. And accurate. Problem is... French GOVERNMENT won't admit we are at war. Don't know what they are waiting for. If they are waiting for Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) and just fighting hundreds of "lone wolves" then we will die of 1000 cuts. Why would the French do anything other than what the USA has taught them. Stage events or bury events for the sake of a cause or to continue a certain political trajectory! ***SUPERFLY*** If we only knew what the fly on the wall knows!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77406900 Canada 04/17/2019 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked on a major rail road in maintenance. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile. The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose. Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is injected into the ties and may not always get to the center. Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames for quite a while. You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse? On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without sacrificing the timbers strength. I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams? The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood. I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set. yes very sensible...even more sensible is that the scaffolding being used during the restoration isn't 1000 year old oak trees ok?..I know they like to restore things kind of to original but they DONT NEED SAME YEAR SCAFFOLDING AND TOOLS AND SHIT!! according to that logic...maybe a cheap pin or dowel or hammer handle was made from cheap wood and easily caused the fire!! Especially the cheap recreated tools they must use to do the fulll recreated restoration!! PPPFFFTTTT!! I am not teasing you Idaho....sorry if I did |
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Ostria1 User ID: 77477202 Greece 04/17/2019 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is that someone who went to check initially when there was no fire in the attic? Quoting: Simple27 hmmm this one? he probably said "dont worry, i will go check" [link to cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com (secure)] Ostria |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77564913 United Kingdom 04/17/2019 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did it take 90 mins for them to even start putting flames out? How could have possibly taken so long? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77559537 please remember the long, long time it took the ambulance to get the Princess of Wales to the hospital after her accident. Diana? Yeah she was assassinated for embarrassing the Queen by marrying a koranimal. The Ginger should be scared too, he might be assassinated too for marrying some American Black. Hi Christian |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77160062 04/17/2019 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who is this Dennis Arends who tweeted 3 days ago at 22:48 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222953 Three days from now, The Notre Dame church in France will burn up in flames. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Ostria1 User ID: 77477202 Greece 04/17/2019 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But really, did Macron say anything about the fire investigation in his national address? Did any official say anything on camera? Last Edited by Ostria1 on 04/17/2019 04:44 PM Ostria |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76765133 United States 04/17/2019 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who is this Dennis Arends who tweeted 3 days ago at 22:48 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222953 Three days from now, The Notre Dame church in France will burn up in flames. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43322661 Canada 04/17/2019 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The black smoke was a petroleum based fuel. Oil, diesel, whatever. Quoting: Steamer This was not a ‘wood’ fire. They could’ve torched it with something else. But they ‘wanted’ BLACK smoke. You know when a new Pope is selected they either send up white smoke or black smoke to indicate if a final decision has been made? Well, I bet the Antichrist just got elected in some sort of demonic ceremony. Guess who’s wife was ‘coincidentally’ river cruising and saw the whole thing? No co-incidences. WHOSE WIFE WAS THERE AND SAW THE WHOLE THING, please? I NEED to know!! Barry Shabaz Otherwise known as Obama |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76765133 United States 04/17/2019 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who is this Dennis Arends who tweeted 3 days ago at 22:48 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222953 Three days from now, The Notre Dame church in France will burn up in flames. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Dennis Arends Dynamic social economist | Strategic planner | Resource mobiliser Rotterdam Area, Netherlands International Affairs [link to www.linkedin.com (secure)] First one that comes up? |
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Tim Foil Hat User ID: 77555490 United States 04/17/2019 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The architect says there was no renovation at the site where the fire first broke out. This excludes welding conspiracy theories etc. Furthermore, the architect says 800-year-old oak does not catch fire without an accelerent. Security protocols were put in place to prevent this type of catastrophe according to numerous reports... No lack of suspects for this terror attack either... deep state, antifa, or other terror groups. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70821186 Rule out Antifa...too stupid. Antifa would be in there hitting statues with bike locks and rearranging thier man buns between attacks. Careful! They are listening! VP Elect is the way to go. All the perks, none of the responsibility... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77406900 Canada 04/17/2019 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you want to be woke...listen to old school intellect. Thousands of scaffoldings during the restoration in progress need cross members almost always made from the cheapest pine. Steel to hold upright...cheap planks to allow workers to cross. Pine burns hot and fast The black smoke would very likely be because in the old days they used tar and pitch to seal between the slate roof's edges AND old timberwood - hardwood or not would burn very quickly "chieF architech" needs to be examined for credentials do's he talk about old old old style work? I can only say he was talking about that and not current styles of restoration...or maybe he gone baaaaybee...he gonnnne |
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Ostria1 User ID: 77477202 Greece 04/17/2019 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who is this Dennis Arends who tweeted 3 days ago at 22:48 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222953 Three days from now, The Notre Dame church in France will burn up in flames. [link to twitter.com (secure)] I found his facebook, i dont see this post though he is from amsterdam, its probably fake and people talk about it there [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Ostria |
England User ID: 13514153 United Kingdom 04/17/2019 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this is all we do, type about the problems on the screen like hooked zombies waiting for our dopamine hit. What a crock we have become. Here is a list of what we lack as a collective species: -dignity -respect -honour -guts -decency -honesty -common sense -logic -creativity -discipline -originality -humour -humility I'm going to bed now, my zombie batteries need recharging for another day of 'I wonder who or what will insult/sadden me to the very core today'. Sigh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69173020 United States 04/17/2019 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked on a major rail road in maintenance. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle I have seen grinding equipment repair the rail head profile. The sparks fly off like water from a high pressure hose. Those showers of sparks do not ignite the creosoted ties unless some sparks manage to get into cracks of older ties and get to the center that may be rotted. The creosote is injected into the ties and may not always get to the center. Even old solid oak would be hard to ignite unless hot embers or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood. There would be fumes to set off smoke alarms but there not be flames for quite a while. You ask, if the wood has a rotten core, why do the beams not collapse? On the railroad there is a bridge inspector. A bridge inspection of bridge timbers allow some degree timber rot in the center without sacrificing the timbers strength. I have worked above beams in old buildings and encountered thick layers of dust. I wonder how thick the dust layer was on the church beams? The dust could contribute to the ignition of the wood. I am speculating on the cause of the fire from personal experience if it was truly an accident. It is unfortunate that there is legitimate speculation that the fire was deliberately set. Is this a cut/paste? Its written in first person but the format indicates it was copied from somewhere else. Yes. It is first person. I retired from a major railroad 3 years ago. Maybe my education in the '60s and early '70 is an indication of better writing skills than those indoctrinated in the current government school system. It is not cut and pase. I wrote this from scratch a few minutes ago. good info. And accurate. Problem is... French GOVERNMENT won't admit we are at war. Don't know what they are waiting for. If they are waiting for Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) and just fighting hundreds of "lone wolves" then we will die of 1000 cuts. " unless hot embers or molten lead got to rotten parts of the wood." I worked around molten lead in open pots. As one ton blocks melt they often pop as pockets of water are hit. Drops of lead fly and hit your arms and face. First time you think you are burnt, but it only leaves a red spot as you react and pick a spot of cold lead off your arm. Lead is an extremely poor conductor of heat. It cools almost instantly. |
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MountainTux NLI User ID: 68141028 Canada 04/17/2019 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would he have any personal skin in the game? An architect has nothing to do with the quality, build, or any issues pertaining to the actual construction of the building. You're aware that architect does not necessarily, or even usually, mean "foreman, inspector, fabricator, labourer," etc.? Saying that the ARCHITECT had any personal concerns wold be like saying that an engineer that helped design the Ford Ecoboost engine has a personal stake in the game when there's a recall due to faulty airbags... that engineer had NOTHING to do with that aspect of the car - but they must cover ass because they worked on some of the mechanical design? Get a grip, Junior. ad ignorantiam - The assumption of a conclusion or fact based primarily on lack of evidence to the contrary. Usually best described by, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” |
How do you solve a problem? User ID: 43012952 United Kingdom 04/17/2019 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have a bonfire made of branches and garden waste ..It is impossible to get it alight without diesel . Very old wood burning without diesel ,lightening strikes ? ... Never. Tony Bliar went to see the Macaroon. A few weeks ago .. Wherever the Liar goes trouble follows .... I wrote on here warning Macaroon .... |