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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/17/2019 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General Causality Theory v0.1 Quoting: Xlegic Introduction The causality definition: The principle of relationship between cause and effect correlated by an observer. - Principle: Basic truth. - Relationship: A connection between two or more of anything or anyone. - Cause: The origin of responsible for an action performed. - Effect: The reaction to cause. - Correlation: A fundamental conceptualization process in an observer's mind, that forms a belief-building based on a connection or type of relationship between anything or anyone and also his/her/it in relation to that. - Observer: An entity that is a sentient being, consciousness, awareness, and / or alive. And is totality of self, in shape and form seemingly separated from other observers and things in reality but remain connected to them in some way. Conceptualization Process The conceptualization process in an observer's mind: a) Principle: Conceptualizing the truth starts by firstly experience the perception of reality that is apparently sensed. b) Relationship: The next step is recognizing a connection between you and reality that is already apparently sensed by yourself and could be verified by other observers if any. Since you already exist since your birth, you already have a connection to the reality. The connection can be interpreted as a type of relationship. c) Cause: You start notice some people and things can perform some actions on their own in reality. Then you, yourself, can notice you can perform some actions as well. d) Effect: After noticing some people and things performed actions on their own, some of them reacted. And you, yourself, no doubt already can notice that you can react. e) Correlation: Forming a connection (of a type of relationship) between / inbetween cause and effect, ultimately forms the nature of knowledge (eg a belief, fact, etc) and potentially an understanding. f) Evidence-based approach in Correlation: When correlating in an attempt to form a knowledge and understanding, it is a best practice to stick to what is apparently true that you, yourself, can witness for yourself and even more bonus with verification by other observers if any - in a rigid and repetitive way as far enough to solidly knowledge and hopefully understanding too. The reality that you inhabit in, is your first source of evidence of truth. If there are other observers within the reality you inhabit, consult with them, and reach a consensus about an evidence or more. Example Look around in your reality that you can experience via perception with senses, and start correlating (remember to use evidence-based approach). Classical Cause and Effect The classical cause and effect in linear and rigid way is good for understanding Finite actions / reactions in anything or anyone. However, when an attempt to learn and understand the nature of reality – the classical cause and effect just doesn’t work. Because in reality, events can happen at multiple locations at any given time and account the consciousness factor in. An attempt to develop a rigid mathematical model of reality is like trying to apply finite facts to the reality, and expecting these to work. The reality is actually messy, complex, and involves a lots of inter-connected types of relationships. Three Major Types of Relationship Anything or anyone from at microscopic to macroscopic level and vice versa all are parts of complexity of relationship. In order to gain a knowledge and hopefully understanding too, we need to catergorize and classify these in a manner similar to relationships in psychology; psychological method. Using the said method could be effective and even intuitive in identifying or further clarifying a cause and effect in anything or anyone. It all starts with polar-type relationship that builds up through community-type relationship to potentially foe-type relationship in some situations. 1. Polar-Type Relationship - Stranger - Acquaintance - Friend - Boyfriend / Girlfriend - Marriage Union 2. Community-Type Relationship - Neutral - Neighbours - Ally 3. Foe-Type Relationship - Enemy That is all for now. Remember this General Causality is still version 0.1, and is in progress of work. edit: Thread: Mad World (Page 1374) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/17/2019 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle (also known as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle) is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities[1] asserting a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle, known as complementary variables or canonically conjugate variables such as position x and momentum p, can be known." Quoting: wiki[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I do not understand the math behind Uncertainy principle, but an impression upon on me is that it is something what happen when focused on an object or something apart or excluding its types of relationship to surrounding environment, world, and cosmos. Derive psychological type(s) of relationship from apparent actions of something measured that is in a type of relationship with to what I said in the preceded paragraph. what is being described is when ourselves or our tools measure non contact forces maintaining matter in motion constantly no satisfactory philosophy that we possess exists to explain the measurements we make many philosophies exist that could be helpful and our global communications allows philosophical debate to occur and ambient intelligence is forming own intelligence into new shapes for all of us in the process us on the net you and me have always got our humanist ai attention as example "The way I understood is that the principle of causality is result of conceptualization process within my mind. That is done in order to have the principle of causality correlated to an event(s) in real life. The cause and effect both are concepts divided or differinated between but are grouped together in order to be uilitized as knowledge tool to identify various or even all types of relationship as parts of event(s), and to identify or clarify cause and effect. Sometimes a cause can be from an effect, then sometimes an effect can become cause - an example for this can be seen in domino effect. That's all." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blog^ Form "The ASD stands for Adaptive Semi-Determinism. It was purely philosophy. It bridged both determinism and indeterminism as one. Basically, it is about the existence of freewill with being situational dependency." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blogand "Then there came along PAL called Proportional Adaption Law Theory. It was a bit scientific and focused on adaption relationship between two or more things in proportional way. It made sense but was too mechanic." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's bloglead to "I am neither understandable nor knowledgeable in any of said known fields except one. Still, the GCT-GE has me convinced that it all have to do with types of relationship between / inbetween anyone and / or anything in existence, and existence itself." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blog"Still, strangely these led me to developed the basic principle in Causality theory. Heh, one could say I was digging out some dirt in a hole - all the way to solid ground.. a base of which complexity sits upon it." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blog"Any piece of artwork is never done, only have to be “good enough” to make a point or else it can become everything and render its meaning of point to be moot." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blog... starting point of philosophy. edit: Thread: While I wait (Page 80) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/18/2019 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Equilibrium in General Causality theory Definition: A balanced state of relationship between systems (eg anything or anyone). The equilibrium is always the destination after causality of anything or anyone. To ensure the existence of actuality in reality, giving an appropriated answer or truth in a form of self-explanatory to you. Elaboration on Equilibrium The equilibrium doesn't necessarily means a singular type of relationship between two systems or more, it means inclusion of any type of relationship. In order for these systems to be at an equilibrium of continuation - these need to be in a continued and same pattern of a type of relationship. That is, until one of or these decide / react otherwise and / or other another anything or anyone relationships act on these and so on. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/18/2019 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It is actually a culmination - a high point after about 2 years of multiple discussions on a few various forums across the Internet." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blogweird intro. Are you suggesting datamining techniques take 2 years to be accurate? Actually, I thought I could include the 2nd post (ie quoting the general causality v0.1 stuff) in the 1st post but turned out I couldn't. I needed an introduction of sort. I know nothing about datamining stuff. |
aether User ID: 77537020 Spain 04/19/2019 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It is actually a culmination - a high point after about 2 years of multiple discussions on a few various forums across the Internet." Quoting: snippet of xlegic's blogweird intro. Are you suggesting datamining techniques take 2 years to be accurate? architecture utilizing ability to construct non material structure to function he is good at it i say |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/20/2019 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Endless (Destiny, Death, Dream, Destruction, Desire, Despair, and Delirium) are a group of fictional beings appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics imprint Vertigo. The characters embody powerful forces or aspects of the universe in the comic book series The Sandman, by Neil Gaiman. They have existed since the dawn of time and are thought to be among the most powerful beings in the existence.[1] They are distinct from and more powerful than most gods. Dream is the protagonist of The Sandman series, but all of the Endless play major roles. Quoting: endless (comics) wikiThe Endless are a somewhat dysfunctional family of seven siblings. They may appear in different forms, but usually have light skin and black hair, with the exception of redheads Destruction and Delirium. Their appearance can change to fit the expectations of others. When asked by Marco Polo if he is always so pale, Dream[2] replies, "That depends on who's watching." ... "Function and domains" "The Endless spend most of their time fulfilling their functions as embodiments of natural forces." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/21/2019 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The energetic potentiality gives arise to directionality in causality. The energetic potentiality and directionality are max-out as being limited dependent on surrounding of existential everything acting on these. Think of a room filled with toy balls (many energetic potentialities). No matter how hard a person swims in it, the balls will always head toward equilibrium as being equal to other each other and relative (directionality) to the person swimming in it. Of course, all of this is because of the architectural structure of the room containing balls and person, that ultimately act as function with a purpose oriented design in mind. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/22/2019 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a color-field. You select the forms. Everything is here, you just can't look at it all at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31491616 "The Endless (Destiny, Death, Dream, Destruction, Desire, Despair, and Delirium) are a group of fictional beings appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics imprint Vertigo. The characters embody powerful forces or aspects of the universe in the comic book series The Sandman, by Neil Gaiman. They have existed since the dawn of time and are thought to be among the most powerful beings in the existence.[1] They are distinct from and more powerful than most gods. Dream is the protagonist of The Sandman series, but all of the Endless play major roles. Quoting: endless (comics) wikiThe Endless are a somewhat dysfunctional family of seven siblings. They may appear in different forms, but usually have light skin and black hair, with the exception of redheads Destruction and Delirium. Their appearance can change to fit the expectations of others. When asked by Marco Polo if he is always so pale, Dream[2] replies, "That depends on who's watching." ... "Function and domains" "The Endless spend most of their time fulfilling their functions as embodiments of natural forces." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Causality Architect I do not know whether the Endless group like that or not. I only know (awareness) of what come to me and I make it so far what my-self is capable of. The feeling is uneasiness. The GCT (general causality theory) colourized in blue box aka this thread I make, feels strong. "Great power comes great responsibility." |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/22/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nervous simplicity engulfed in complexity requires measurement of common understanding between both of them to explain either of them to yourself Quoting: aether is the feeling I care about everyone. The gct is my way of trying to help everyone understand what the hell is going on at from fundamental level to complexity and vice versa. To resolve and or solve situations for betterment of humanity on this planet and beyond - in positive progression. I am not feeling nervous right now, but I can see why I was (see 1st paragraph). |
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aether User ID: 77537020 Spain 04/22/2019 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nervous simplicity engulfed in complexity requires measurement of common understanding between both of them to explain either of them to yourself Quoting: aether is the feeling I care about everyone. The gct is my way of trying to help everyone understand what the hell is going on at from fundamental level to complexity and vice versa. To resolve and or solve situations for betterment of humanity on this planet and beyond - in positive progression. I am not feeling nervous right now, but I can see why I was (see 1st paragraph). i believe you Last Edited by aether on 04/22/2019 03:44 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/23/2019 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitions {A type of relationship that is in determination between x, y, or more toward equilibrium} = General Causality Theory (GCT) definition x, y, or more = energetic potentialities determination = directionality The GCT definition is a simple and starting point which complexity arise from when there are many eneregetic potentialities, each with either same or different directionality happening at once. So, the forumulation of equalization can be written as follow: {Energetic potentiality > directionality < [other GCTs] = equilibrium} { } = root brackets acting as architectural structure containing all of what is > < = forming directionality itself [ ] = inclusion of other GCTs in general speaking, that act on that equilibrium = always the destination as part of directionality itself, forward/backward or in superposition (occuplying all possibilities) “collapsing” in a return of truth to “now.” |
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RelativeAbsolute User ID: 77100313 United States 04/23/2019 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitions Quoting: Xlegic {A type of relationship that is in determination between x, y, or more toward equilibrium} = General Causality Theory (GCT) definition x, y, or more = energetic potentialities determination = directionality The GCT definition is a simple and starting point which complexity arise from when there are many eneregetic potentialities, each with either same or different directionality happening at once. So, the forumulation of equalization can be written as follow: {Energetic potentiality > directionality < [other GCTs] = equilibrium} { } = root brackets acting as architectural structure containing all of what is > < = forming directionality itself [ ] = inclusion of other GCTs in general speaking, that act on that equilibrium = always the destination as part of directionality itself, forward/backward or in superposition (occuplying all possibilities) “collapsing” in a return of truth to “now.” Relationship is the root. For each, a symmetry inherent no matter the universe or point of view; yet wholly unique in relation to all others. While all is knowable, only that which is all-encomapssing may know with certainty. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77560421 Ireland 04/26/2019 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The old lady.. in my imagination, sits on a rocking chair looking to an opened window. Outside is wheat field and trees at far. Sunny and some clouds. Quoting: Xlegic Though, she looks about 40 years old but still like to be called The Old Lady. She doesn't talk much, just face expressions mostly. For some reason to make her presence known. she waits patiently for you to come :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/27/2019 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " I wonder, can holy and shamanism co-exist? I see myself in vision of myself meeting a holy woman at a convention of sort. Probably not true, but yet it was on my mind."… Quoting: CUB4DK If You can envision IT…then You can make IT happen Xlegic :):) Keep Busy and have Patience…and go to that Convention :) Cheers, Dr. Cannabis Rex aka Uncle Hexy The old lady.. in my imagination, sits on a rocking chair looking to an opened window. Outside is wheat field and trees at far. Sunny and some clouds. Quoting: Xlegic Though, she looks about 40 years old but still like to be called The Old Lady. She doesn't talk much, just face expressions mostly. For some reason to make her presence known. she waits patiently for you to come :) convention Quoting: google word definition"an agreement between countries covering particular matters, especially one less formal than a treaty." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/28/2019 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Introduction – Classical Cause and Effect Quoting: xlegic's work-in-progress GCT paperThe classical cause and effect in “linear” and rigid way is good for understanding symmetrical actions / reactions (eg causes and effects) between anything or anyone. Such some examples of application use of classical cause and effect are; algorithms, computing, mathematics, chemistry, and formal logic. How it work in general is by observing or experiencing perception and creation of the symmetrical relationships between anything or anybody being categorized with coining terminology words to differentiate these from everything else then derive “energy” property(ies) from that, to know the cause(s) and effect(s) and to return predicted result(s). Symmetrical Machine Worldview In searching for the final or ultimate theory of everything with classical cause and effect in an observer’s mind, he / she / it would inevitably arrives with a conclusion that universe is deterministic mechanism. That implies universe is machine, created by an engineer aka God as example. If so in pure sense as being truth itself, that means everyone and everything would perform their purpose-oriented function till given energy sustainability runs out. This paragraph can be analgoued to the Lego universe, and is not wrong but still is incomplete though (eg yet to link and explain psychology and messy worldview). Psychology and Messy Worldview Despite the fact that psychology is considered to be part of scientific disciplines (eg part of classical cause and effect concept), still it is gray due to the very nature of an observer’s mind rests on “properties” called consciousness and freewill both which are largely unexplainable at least within domain of classical cause and effect aka scientific method. The messy worldview is that the classical cause and effect just doesn’t work at broad or grand picture. Because in reality, events can happen at multiple locations at any given time with consciousness and freewill. The reality is actually messy, complex, and involves types of relationship. This is not wrong but still is incomplete (eg excluding symmertical machine worldview). General Causality Theory or GCT In an attempt to gain knowledge and understanding about the nature of reality or universe a bit better, this GCT will attempt to do so by incorporating psychological aspects – largely to do with relationships, and symmertical machine worldview into a synthesis – GCT itself. It aims to hopefully help link and explain all of that is in the universe, oriented to an observer’s ongoing progression of understanding and knowledge level. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/29/2019 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made artwork inspired indirectly based on above quoted msg. It is called, "Steering." Too bad I can't post the artwork on here, but I can provide a description of it: Bird-view of Kaleidoscopic patterns of steer, yellow-gray colourized background, with bubbles of stars at top. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/29/2019 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a place within you, you might call it home and within this place is the deep knowing of the wise being that you are. Quoting: Ben_ highway. In my imagination, there are trees in the fall season.. everywhere surrounding the highway of which I walk on it. Narrow path, feels like. One time I glanced off a sign right next to a highway, it depicted two symbols; a person at bottom and crown of some kind at top. Feels like person walking on the path of highway, a journey of sort.. but the crown.. king, queen, emperor, empress, ruler of some kind? I do not know. All I know is I need a silver crown that goes around my head, to contain and stabilize the cosmic knowledge of some kind. Rule? Does not feels like. Something else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77560421 Ireland 04/29/2019 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a place within you, you might call it home and within this place is the deep knowing of the wise being that you are. Quoting: Ben_ www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuKHzh4zkMM[/youtube] highway. In my imagination, there are trees in the fall season.. everywhere surrounding the highway of which I walk on it. Narrow path, feels like. One time I glanced off a sign right next to a highway, it depicted two symbols; a person at bottom and crown of some kind at top. Feels like person walking on the path of highway, a journey of sort.. but the crown.. king, queen, emperor, empress, ruler of some kind? I do not know. All I know is I need a silver crown that goes around my head, to contain and stabilize the cosmic knowledge of some kind. Rule? Does not feels like. Something else. maybe come off the road, go for walks among those trees, walk slowly and breathe easy, be aware of your senses, the smells, the songs of the birds, the touch of soil, the feeling, the space, the silence and let your heart guide you there. you are never not on your path, most of all be gentle on your self :) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 841126 Canada 04/29/2019 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitions Quoting: Xlegic {A type of relationship that is in determination between x, y, or more toward equilibrium} = General Causality Theory (GCT) definition x, y, or more = energetic potentialities determination = directionality The GCT definition is a simple and starting point which complexity arise from when there are many eneregetic potentialities, each with either same or different directionality happening at once. So, the forumulation of equalization can be written as follow: {Energetic potentiality > directionality < [other GCTs] = equilibrium} { } = root brackets acting as architectural structure containing all of what is > < = forming directionality itself [ ] = inclusion of other GCTs in general speaking, that act on that equilibrium = always the destination as part of directionality itself, forward/backward or in superposition (occuplying all possibilities) “collapsing” in a return of truth to “now.” Relationship is the root. For each, a symmetry inherent no matter the universe or point of view; yet wholly unique in relation to all others. While all is knowable, only that which is all-encomapssing may know with certainty. The root; it is in the beginning and will see it in the end. Funnily enough, it seems that I know the root or gct albeit excluding much of the middle journey, other fields with expertise, etc. Similar to Uncertainly principle. I still can't seem to get over it yet, as it is strange. Paradoxically my journey since birth brings me to this point, a chapter if you will, and the production along with discussions and input of comments by you and other posters - is the middle journey. The best I can feel and describe is universe acting as external force shaping me while I grow up and produce the root or gct describing and perhaps explaining what, the two; the universe doing to me and me doing to it. A torus. Idk if what I said thus so far make sense. |
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