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My neighbor has a 17 year old daughter who has

a horrifically painful genetic disease where her

bones fall out of their socket all day long.


We got her on pot gummy bears and she is doing ok
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why no video of their arraignment on the charges?
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I have two loved ones on prescription meds, because their pain is so bad. Both had their pain clinics closed down just recently. One is in Kansas and will have to drive himself two hours one way to go to the nearest one. He says it’s flooded with patients from all the ones that got closed down. He’’s trying to wean himself off, and I’m terribly worried about it.

The other one lives in Ohio. She’s in her eighties and her back is so bad, but she’s doing her best. I don’t know what she’s going to do.

I’m not pro drugs, but if people are suffering so badly, how can we just cut them off? MJ isn’t even legal most places.
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Opioids do not provide that much relief, plus they come with major baggage, namely destroying your liver, stomach, and immune system, and thus, your life. And good luck getting off them. Clearly, big pharma is full of sh!t, their pills' many lethal side effects are their ONLY effects. Notice how big pharma NEVER, EVER makes any attempt to mitigate all these side effects, they are purposely engineered into the pills so you go back for more pills for those side effects, and so on for THOSE new side effects. This gives them the most profit off the public's misery. My pain management doctor is onto this and showed me how cannabis, heat, ice, and even acupuncture, etc, are other options that ALWAYS outperform opioids without the baggage and liver destruction.
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the DEA is still interfering with the Doctors' practice of Medicine.

no excuse for it.

it must stop.
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


This. Most clinics won't even prescribe pain meds now. You have to go to a separate clinic that specializes in pain relief. You also have to pay a separate fee. More regulations.

They manage to round up doctors but they have a hard time busting crack and meth dealers?
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Yes, this is terrible. There is a portion of the population that are resistant to the therapeutic effects of opioids. There are a subgroup of Scandinavians that require high amounts of opioids for moderate pain control.

Are you a Scandinavian disendent and normal pain control medications don't work for you?

Source - [link to sciencenordic.com]
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you can still go to a pain specialist and get what you need
 Quoting: Jake


You have to pay additional money to do that and they no doubt put you on some kind of watch list for them three letters. I thought Trump was all about deregulation? Sounds like big daddy gov to me.
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Opioids do not provide that much relief, plus they come with major baggage, namely destroying your liver, stomach, and immune system, and thus, your life. And good luck getting off them. Clearly, big pharma is full of sh!t, their pills' many lethal side effects are their ONLY effects. Notice how big pharma NEVER, EVER makes any attempt to mitigate all these side effects, they are purposely engineered into the pills so you go back for more pills for those side effects, and so on for THOSE new side effects. This gives them the most profit off the public's misery. My pain management doctor is onto this and showed me how cannabis, heat, ice, and even acupuncture, etc, are other options that ALWAYS outperform opioids without the baggage and liver destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77561180


Yes. They do work but nothing works if you don’t switch up your routine.

I have a pain disorder that I don’t take drugs for. Tried gabapintin (however it’s spelled) and it was great for my brain but did nothing for pain levels and made me super angry. It was awful.

Lyrica was fun but only worked for a few months and not all that well. I think being high just kept my mind elsewhere.

Now let’s add that my neck complete seizes up ... about once a week. It then pulls all the muscles from my face and head. Like I need more pain. This one is just awful. I can take a muscle relaxer at bed time to help it release but if I take one dose of codiene it not only relieves the pain, but I can function instead of wasting a day on the couch.

Except now, as I type this, I realize I don’t consider it wasted time. Now I own my time and if I have to rest, I will rest.

But don’t say opioids don’t work. It is person to person... drugs are not a one size fits all. They never were. And greed just compounds the issue.
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by the sounds of the story on Fox

They were only going after pill mills.
 Quoting: Jake


It may be so, but still scaring the crap out of many doctors that are just refusing to prescribe at all. I knew one guy who had major surgery and they wouldn't send him home with any strong meds at all, because he was from out of state, that's ridiculous.
 Quoting: Keilani


yeah I know and people all across the nation are freaking out

I don't know enough about it to give a personal opinion

my wife has people screaming at her all day long
 Quoting: Jake


You're poor wife, people are so dumb though, it's not the pharmacists fault in any way, shape or form.

I live in Florida in a ground zero druggie land county, and I expect to see crime rise due to frustrated people trying to get their meds, just a hunch.
 Quoting: Keilani


I'm in Florida too.

A LOT of times, it is the pharmacist being on a power trip.

Case in point: I have a prescription for a Schedule IV sleeping medication. It's not an opiate (which are all Schedule II), not a benzodiazapine (like Valium/Xanax, which are Schedule III), but it's the lowest classification (a hypnotic which is Schedule IV).

Couple of months ago, I was taking a trip for work and was going to be gone for the whole week (Sun - Fri). I notice I have 2 pills left and went to refill my prescription so I'd have enough for the whole trip.

The pharmacist refused to refill it because she said it was to early (2 days before empty). She said my insurance wouldn't fill it early, so I called my insurance on my cell phone with her standing there. My insurance said, over the speakerphone, they allow refills 7 days prior to running out.

The pharmacist, caught in her lie, then changed her story and said it was a state law that she couldn't fill it 2 days early.

I then pulled up on my cell phone the regulations in Florida that showed that only applied the Schedule II and Schedule III medications and showed her.

Caught in a lie again, she then just said that it was store policy.

I got tired of dealing with lies and ignorance, so I just left, called my doctor, and he called in another prescription hypnotic sleeping medication (different medication) to another pharmacy and I went and picked it up so I would enough to last me for my trip.

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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


[link to www.wvxu.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


[link to www.wvxu.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


This is true there is no opioid epidemic is all bullshit from the CDC millions of people are suffering
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


CBD oil baby!
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


CBD oil baby!
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And pretty soon thanks to John Morgan, its going to be legal recreational marijuana
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Great but source is suspect.
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also on Fox news. com
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Absolutely. and the docs are treating people like drug addicts because they want to stop their pain.
It just seems to me that Trump and the justice department have more important things to look after. Like treason and sedition by key players. I thought that after sunday school teacher Sessions left they would stop their failed tactics since the 70's.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


They shouldn't have prescribed them in the first place. Heroin dealers are no different.
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People like you that have shit for brains need to stay out of the discussion.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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The VA is responsible for deaths of our vets by cutting back on their pain meds. FACT. Go talk to a vet.
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The VA won't prescribe pain pills unless you talk to a psychiatrist first. Of course, then you are mentally ill and should never own guns. Thanks to Obama and the Obama followers in the VA. Most vets don't want to be labeled mentally ill.

we've come a long way since Senator Eagleton dropped out as george McGovern's vp because it became public knowledge that he had seen a psychiatric. NOT.
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

Indeed, cant get my much needed silly ass 15mg Morphine that keeps me wroking refilled.
I cant perform without them.

disturbing as hell...
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Opioids do not provide that much relief, plus they come with major baggage, namely destroying your liver, stomach, and immune system, and thus, your life. And good luck getting off them. Clearly, big pharma is full of sh!t, their pills' many lethal side effects are their ONLY effects. Notice how big pharma NEVER, EVER makes any attempt to mitigate all these side effects, they are purposely engineered into the pills so you go back for more pills for those side effects, and so on for THOSE new side effects. This gives them the most profit off the public's misery. My pain management doctor is onto this and showed me how cannabis, heat, ice, and even acupuncture, etc, are other options that ALWAYS outperform opioids without the baggage and liver destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77561180


Yes. They do work but nothing works if you don’t switch up your routine.

I have a pain disorder that I don’t take drugs for. Tried gabapintin (however it’s spelled) and it was great for my brain but did nothing for pain levels and made me super angry. It was awful.

Lyrica was fun but only worked for a few months and not all that well. I think being high just kept my mind elsewhere.

Now let’s add that my neck complete seizes up ... about once a week. It then pulls all the muscles from my face and head. Like I need more pain. This one is just awful. I can take a muscle relaxer at bed time to help it release but if I take one dose of codiene it not only relieves the pain, but I can function instead of wasting a day on the couch.

Except now, as I type this, I realize I don’t consider it wasted time. Now I own my time and if I have to rest, I will rest.

But don’t say opioids don’t work. It is person to person... drugs are not a one size fits all. They never were. And greed just compounds the issue.
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Have you tried A.R.T.? It's Active Release Method, a non-invasive, skilled soft tissue manipulation technique that removes adhesions in the fascia, the true source of most back and neck pain. See if there's an ART practitioner in your area, it's worth it. You usually can get permanent improvements on the 1st visit, and you won't need more than 8-10 visits.
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Yes, this is terrible. There is a portion of the population that are resistant to the therapeutic effects of opioids. There are a subgroup of Scandinavians that require high amounts of opioids for moderate pain control.

Are you a Scandinavian disendent and normal pain control medications don't work for you?

Source - [link to sciencenordic.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77569919


you can still go to a pain specialist and get what you need
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At a thousand $1000 a pop...no thx....
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
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They shouldn't have prescribed them in the first place. Heroin dealers are no different.
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People like you that have shit for brains need to stay out of the discussion.
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Actually he's right, they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with some real medicine that's safe and works, what they offer now is DANGEROUS, ADDICTIVE, INEFFECTIVE BULLSH!T.
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

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The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


CBD oil baby!
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Cbd doesnt do shit for real chronic pain sufferers...
Like sarcoid tumors and fall injuries from 28' that ruined everything from the waist down from 28' feet high
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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


They shouldn't have prescribed them in the first place. Heroin dealers are no different.
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People like you that have shit for brains need to stay out of the discussion.
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Actually he's right, they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with some real medicine that's safe and works, what they offer now is DANGEROUS, ADDICTIVE, INEFFECTIVE BULLSH!T.
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I have been taking Morphine for 20 years....no addiction here. Except to pain relief
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The VA is responsible for deaths of our vets by cutting back on their pain meds. FACT. Go talk to a vet.
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bump

I have seenn more that one vet suddenly nosedive right into the pits of hell becuase the though it there patriotic duty to stop taking opiates due to MSM propoganda...led them to the ICU in critical condition and a prognosis of of shit because of it...theu were fine and active/happy
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


yep i have herd so many stories about people not getting neough pain medication for recovering form surgeries and many other injuries.
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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


They shouldn't have prescribed them in the first place. Heroin dealers are no different.
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People like you that have shit for brains need to stay out of the discussion.
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Actually he's right, they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with some real medicine that's safe and works, what they offer now is DANGEROUS, ADDICTIVE, INEFFECTIVE BULLSH!T.
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They should start looking into kratom to see if it’s alkaloids and whatnot could be enhanced to be even more effective than the plain natural version. Could be promising.
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If they discern between an addict and a long term chroinic pain sufferer...

Well that pretty fucking sad.
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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It's official now, Trump's an air head with weird Orange hair..screw people in pain and destroy America! He's playing this shit for his second shit show..
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60 Arrested In 'Largest Opioid Prescriber Takedown Ever'

Federal officials are charging 60 defendants across five states in what they're calling the largest opioid prescriber takedown ever. These are the first arrests announced since an opioid strike force began late last year.

Listen Listening...0:58
The defendants include 31 doctors, seven pharmacists, eight nurse practitioners and seven other licensed medical professionals. They're charged with participating in illegally prescribing and distributing opioids and other drugs, and other health care fraud schemes.

"Cases like one involving a doctor in Dayton, Ohio, who at one time was among the highest prescribers of opioids in the entire state," says U.S. Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski of the Criminal Division, speaking in Cincinnati. "That doctor allegedly operated a 'pill mill' and funneled prescriptions to the pharmacy housed in his own waiting room which dispensed over 1.75 million pills in a two-year period."

Wednesday's arrests span 11 federal districts in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama.

"As charged, these cases involve approximately 350,000 opioid prescriptions and more than 32 million pills," Benczkowski says. "[That's] the equivalent of a dose of opioids for every man, woman and child across the states of Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama combined."

More arrests are expected and investigations are continuing. The strike force is expanding to include the Western District of West Virginia. Benczkowski says the indictments are indicative of the Trump administration and Justice Department's tough stance on the opioid epidemic.


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This is really not a good thing.

They have doctors terrified to prescribe pain meds now.

People are suffering greatly because of it.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


...whie at the same time, Hillary can violate the Espionage Act among a host of other laws, as can Obama, Mueller, Brennan, Comey, -- the whole gang -- and make a clean getaway...
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Opioids do not provide that much relief, plus they come with major baggage, namely destroying your liver, stomach, and immune system, and thus, your life. And good luck getting off them. Clearly, big pharma is full of sh!t, their pills' many lethal side effects are their ONLY effects. Notice how big pharma NEVER, EVER makes any attempt to mitigate all these side effects, they are purposely engineered into the pills so you go back for more pills for those side effects, and so on for THOSE new side effects. This gives them the most profit off the public's misery. My pain management doctor is onto this and showed me how cannabis, heat, ice, and even acupuncture, etc, are other options that ALWAYS outperform opioids without the baggage and liver destruction.
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Yes. They do work but nothing works if you don’t switch up your routine.

I have a pain disorder that I don’t take drugs for. Tried gabapintin (however it’s spelled) and it was great for my brain but did nothing for pain levels and made me super angry. It was awful.

Lyrica was fun but only worked for a few months and not all that well. I think being high just kept my mind elsewhere.

Now let’s add that my neck complete seizes up ... about once a week. It then pulls all the muscles from my face and head. Like I need more pain. This one is just awful. I can take a muscle relaxer at bed time to help it release but if I take one dose of codiene it not only relieves the pain, but I can function instead of wasting a day on the couch.

Except now, as I type this, I realize I don’t consider it wasted time. Now I own my time and if I have to rest, I will rest.

But don’t say opioids don’t work. It is person to person... drugs are not a one size fits all. They never were. And greed just compounds the issue.
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Have you tried A.R.T.? It's Active Release Method, a non-invasive, skilled soft tissue manipulation technique that removes adhesions in the fascia, the true source of most back and neck pain. See if there's an ART practitioner in your area, it's worth it. You usually can get permanent improvements on the 1st visit, and you won't need more than 8-10 visits.
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Thanks, but thanks to the other pain disorder, the only doc in my area that does something similar won’t treat me regularly because I won’t give up milk and sugar. And no, I am not obese nor pre diabetic.

Those things cause inflation, but the list of medical issues is too long (childhood traumas and car accidents) for me to give up the few enjoyments I have with food.

And only my neck is muscle related. The other pain issues are bone and nerve related. Science hasn’t caught up yet. It’s okay, it’s not degenerative... just painful.





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