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So I go to see the origin of the word boy and this is what I get

"Middle English (denoting a male servant): of unknown origin."

So of unknown origin?
How about the word sit?
Or Child -Children? Or the sentences yes I am?

Anyone care to educate me on some of these word origins? Boy,I'd like a to know...
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There's a little more here:

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boy (n.)
mid-13c., boie "servant, commoner, knave" (generally young and male); c. 1300, "rascal, ruffian, knave; urchin," mid-14c. as "male child before puberty" (possibly an extended sense from the "urchin" one). A word of unknown origin.

Possibly from Old French embuie "one fettered," from Vulgar Latin *imboiare, from Latin boia "leg iron, yoke, leather collar," from Greek boeiai dorai "ox hides." (Words for "boy" double as "servant, attendant" across the Indo-European map -- compare Italian ragazzo, French garçon, Greek pais, Middle English knave, Old Church Slavonic otroku -- and often it is difficult to say which meaning came first.)
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Well yes but the closest came the French explenation.However it has still not painted a picture.
How about Kin? As in next of kin?
Why the word kin?
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What picture are you looking for?
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It helps to learn sumerian first.all languages spin off of it.some say the tamil language was first as tamil is coastal and if the great flood was the trigger then a culture divide was creating two languages.land versus sea.

Boy is close to ba.
The very first words are ma/mother and wa/water.odds are da is dad and ba is boy.ga is girl.

The watchers/animals filled in the blanks in the language.
Just as we see in indian names that describe functions which can be seen in their languages.runs like deer,growls like bear.
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Find the cuck thread.
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I'd like to know the origin of the word cuck thanks.
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Our dinaric language in the Balkans
Precisely the Serb language is the carrier of today's European languages except some.But almost all of them have a trace(trag) so too speak.A look in to the past.There are many variations of this language with the cleanest versions coming out of Bosnia and Serbia.Sort of like how American English became more clear...

What if I told you that the word preacher is the exact same word as "story" in our Serb language.its spelled Pricha.with a special letter for the voice chat(Chuck) only one letter per one voice.Not 3 or 2 like sh or sch...what about the voice for j as in Joe.No such letter...it's not a j it's a dz. But to make a short story long. Boy comes from our word for battle which is spelled Boj but said the same. That is the root word for battle. And giving did only young people went into battle the word stayed. You know in a way English is one of the few keepers of our old sacred language of all our European peoples. More so then in Latin more so than German I would say because I speak German.
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English language has many grandparents

sometimes the shared common roots

sometimes they didnt

to be sure

there is a big difference between

child and childe

meter and metre

but for very different reasons

do you know the story of robin hood?

this time period was a turning point in the development of the English language




the story of the English language is a story of war, blood, and death

study the history of the British islands

its all right there
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It helps to learn sumerian first.all languages spin off of it.some say the tamil language was first as tamil is coastal and if the great flood was the trigger then a culture divide was creating two languages.land versus sea.

Boy is close to ba.
The very first words are ma/mother and wa/water.odds are da is dad and ba is boy.ga is girl.

The watchers/animals filled in the blanks in the language.
Just as we see in indian names that describe functions which can be seen in their languages.runs like deer,growls like bear.
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It certainly does help to know Sumerian
The word for cloud in Sumerian is ubilla
The word for cloud in Serbian is oblak. You can see the carrying of the language from that place to the only inhabitable place in Europe at that time and then onwards to the rest of Europe and Greece. Many claim the Greek had a huge influence in today's language particularly English. Since it's relatively a new language. It was easy for me to learn because I had the pre data already especially with acquiring German.
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this "boy" issue is exactly why I use n**ger
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English language has many grandparents

sometimes the shared common roots

sometimes they didnt

to be sure

there is a big difference between

child and childe

meter and metre

but for very different reasons

do you know the story of robin hood?

this time period was a turning point in the development of the English language




the story of the English language is a story of war, blood, and death

study the history of the British islands

its all right there
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It has many yes but as the Highlander said there can only be one ..that it stemmed out of.cheljade is an old iliric/serb word for how to put it not just a child but members of the family small or big.From that became other versions and eventually Child.Yes I am is simply jesam. So you can see the am at the end is crucial for announcing that it has to do with you and not other persons or person.Ja Sam(I am)
The letter S stands for Self(Sam)
The word sit or saddle or other variations of it is derived from our word Sjedi
The lone letter S means "with" or sa.Se is for self ...but sa or s means with(sa mnom) with me...now the other part Jedi comes from jedan which is the number 1(one) so when put together you get the picture of making yourself one with whatever object you're going to sit on.sjediti-sedeti-sediti ...all means sitting...To make oneself one with the object. How about Sanskrit? do you think that they brought it over to us or did we bring something to them? Now there was a lot of tribes in that area every tribe had a leader.And the leader was called Bato. From there you have the world battle and you have the word bat.Only we say Batina. The Greeks took over that word and because they cannot pronounce the voice b as in boy. They said pato or pata.As it's Bato or Bata(same thing) from that word became padre and again later on father.
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this "boy" issue is exactly why I use n**ger
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Hey let me tell you something :this is a topic if you want to find out where your white ass comes from. Spare me this new world bulshit I'm talking about Vedic texts here.What is a veda.Again it comes from our ancient word for Vid. And guess what that means? It means "sight"

I think I have a video about this.
Video means in past terms(I saw)
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No wonder it's called "g a b"

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How about the word for fire?
Vatra

Water
Voda

Wind
Vjetar

The original and one of our first European words was water. And thanks to the English language it is preserved in its original word as it once was "water".
we like the English like to simplify things so we short them or change a letter to make it easier to pronounce.
But what the key to this is is that in all those words you have the letters Tar. Which we all know stands for Earth or terra-Tarra...so in wind-vjetar (vje) read it like vie I like india e like echo v like Victor. That is the word for Wieving I'm not spelling it right but you know what I mean when it goes up and down...so that's the vie in vjetar
Water is the same
Vazduh iz air. When you're blowing air you are making the duh sound.Not dah...Duuuh.
Zrak is also air or more precise a ray
Zrak(rak-ray)
Grave-Grob
From the act of Grabiti(to grab)
German is even said grab for grave. Play it all has to do with digging the Earth. A predator is called a grabljivac(because he grabs)

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this "boy" issue is exactly why I use n**ger
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Juvenile males, irregardless race, can be referred to as a boy.

Might wanna expand your intellect a bit.
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But to return to fire for a moment the Greek word for fire is pyros
And Plato in old grease wrote that it would be pointless in trying to explain the root word do the citizens at that time. And I will tell you why he said that
piros or(pyros) comes from the old dinaric word Pir. Try to imagine that you are making a fire... a little fire to start with and you need to spread it. What are you going to do? Try and make the action with your mouth of how you would do it. That is how you get the word Pir. Which does not mean fire it means to spread the fire.Piriti (slowly spreading the fire) there can only be that word describing that action no other is adequate.S-pirit(to fly with) (to spread with) it's not a Greek word they are newcomers to that region Plato said that and many other Greek writers that time.so you can see how hard it would be for him to explain that at that time to people who do not use all the voices the God gave you to use. And now we have this Injustice where everything is Greek this Greek that... But that's our damn fault. Because you can see what that created people today do not care who they are or where they are from it all stems from us we didn't care and we lost it and now some others are reaping the benefits of it.

from pir we got the word vampir
Original is Vanpir because van means out
He is out of his grave so to speak.That is about the only fucking word we get to our name? I'm no rascist by all means but shit like this is what broke my former country apart and it's doing the same to the rest of our brothers and sisters. But again it's our own damn fault.The etruscians are our old people who went there from rashka (that's how they got the name ) rashchani and not thracians. If the Greeks have a speech faliure it doesn't mean the rest of us have to..rashka was the country(today's Serbia) from that we have a the word Ras for race and the color red and the word rash. Which is also red.rot in German. But we lost the word we did not call red by that word anymore.We say Crvena...Stupid name Krvena (krv for blood) crven still starts with voice ts and not k. Why is red and race connected? Well when you go into battle you face becomes what? And also you put paint on you to differentiate who is who...they then formed the city of Perusia. Today you might know it by the name of Perugia in Italy.and ultimately later the Roman empire which came back to its ancestral lands to wage hell against it's for fathers. Many went all the way to Poland there's still names all the way from there to Israel and beyond to India.in Sanskrit they are still counting as we do.Jedan-Dva-Tri-Chetiri. I don't think that's a coincidence.

How about the word for barbarian? That's what the whole world called us. it came from our being and now the word is synonymous with wild people who plunder and rape.So let's see...they tell us that the Turks brought the word BAR. which means at least. Does it ring a bell?
Does it Barely ring a bell? :)

So the Danes ,swedes and norges use that Same word for "at least" or. Barely .Bar
We the same way... But the difference is that they're not teaching their kids that the Turks brought it to them I'm sure of that. The only region that there was freedom of slavery equal rights with men and women was our dinaric region.The Vinca culture with the first written letter. Therefore what barbarian really means is the people who have just enough what they need no more no less. Everything you are tought is wrong my friend...

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English language has many grandparents

sometimes the shared common roots

sometimes they didnt

to be sure

there is a big difference between

child and childe

meter and metre

but for very different reasons

do you know the story of robin hood?

this time period was a turning point in the development of the English language




the story of the English language is a story of war, blood, and death

study the history of the British islands

its all right there
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It has many yes but as the Highlander said there can only be one ..that it stemmed out of.cheljade is an old iliric/serb word for how to put it not just a child but members of the family small or big.From that became other versions and eventually Child.Yes I am is simply jesam. So you can see the am at the end is crucial for announcing that it has to do with you and not other persons or person.Ja Sam(I am)
The letter S stands for Self(Sam)
The word sit or saddle or other variations of it is derived from our word Sjedi
The lone letter S means "with" or sa.Se is for self ...but sa or s means with(sa mnom) with me...now the other part Jedi comes from jedan which is the number 1(one) so when put together you get the picture of making yourself one with whatever object you're going to sit on.sjediti-sedeti-sediti ...all means sitting...To make oneself one with the object. How about Sanskrit? do you think that they brought it over to us or did we bring something to them? Now there was a lot of tribes in that area every tribe had a leader.And the leader was called Bato. From there you have the world battle and you have the word bat.Only we say Batina. The Greeks took over that word and because they cannot pronounce the voice b as in boy. They said pato or pata.As it's Bato or Bata(same thing) from that word became padre and again later on father.
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vocal drift makes sense sure

particularly as sound can be encoded into dna

so...
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Going back to Sanskrit makes it even more fun.
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The word to take a little nap is dremnuti
Ja sam dremnuo(I took a nap) or shorter Dremn'o. What do we see here? The relation to the word dream of course...
The word Sanskrit is two words
San means dream (dremnuti only means nap)
Skrit means to hide (secret) and we also say sekrit but with an A (sAkrit) to hide

a hidden dream my friend....a hidden dream that never fulfilled how we wished because of the sheer size of Asia and the planet.It took it's natural and often trecherous course instead.Who the hell is gonna go back 10 000.But this is precisely what I offer you.A look in to YOUR distant past.Before your ancestors left the sacred lands as many and many became to much to bear.The eldest son only stayed everybody else left. Then they formed Italy France Poland every Slavic country and every Germanic country.After first of course they settled and became Saxons.We still have sorbs everywhere.there is the luzhni sorbs in Germany...Poland has a North city Srbisk...the river by perusia.The country of Wales from the God Veles.There is still a soccer club in Bosnia called Velez.
But people sell their own out.We also had a calendar that goes by nature and not by some decided date around the round table in Vatican...The Orthodox Church still keeps it and the serb people are the only ones who still celebrate it and remember it.But men from our side sold that as well to Vatican.The Orthodox Church is not the solution as it made as much damage as it did good for our people...The coming of Islam even more deluded the Waters...the calendar was based on electromagnetic Ray's.The symbol for it you can see if you research the vincha culture or Vinca as u say...
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Going back to Sanskrit makes it even more fun.
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Most prominent haplo group of native Europeans is in Vinca(today's Serbia and Bosnia) and Sweden...It's the same freaking color... It's a little bit more predominant in Bosnia then in Serbia but at that time Bosnia or Serbia did not exist only tribes like the Bessi or the sorbi...and Bessi being a sorbain tribe ...then isnide u had more tribes...Kelts.dasitians,deuri...morici
That's demi Moor's klan for example the morici.lived in today's Albania...
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The albanians are also Sorbs.And half of their nation is an import by maniakus in the 5th century...(the greeks never ment us well really)Settled them there and They populated half of Kosovo later.Then being who they are and the serbs Bering who they are that didn't come out well...Again our children came back and bombed us and left uranium for our cheljad (children) to soak it in for the next gazillion years.After another one of our Cheljad (Tesla) enabled it in the first place and gave it all to his brothers and sisters.Only for them to return just like the Romans with axes in their hands.

But...it is what it is....The Greeks won't even acknowledge our oldest country Makedonija (Donia means down) as in down south of our other countries.Mak (Move)
The ones who moved down...And now the Greeks are stroking their dicks not letting them be and call it what it is...they want changes...they want north Macedonia for a name...they want this they want that...Same shit with Bulgarians...accepted more then half of our language and mixed in their native mountain language.
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Another word they stole is Machine
maxina

All that means is swinging
That's what a machine does
Goes back and forth (swings)
And mAh is the word for swing or wave
As in waving with your hand
Ocean wave is Val.(root word btw)
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Its Bya. Waddip bya.

Waddip bya. Ho ye byn.
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Alexander did propagate the Hellenic influence.But by no means makes him that a Greek.Just like I don't know.Arnold is austirian but propagates Hollywood film culture.Does not mean ...But you're another story...You are the new world...
The dream survived here in the USA.But I'm telling you.and I don't need to..I read it here all the time...if you/we are not careful in keeping our traditions...going by what the Vedas say...to not mix races is one of them...due to medical reasons if nothing else...But again...new world...It has it's good and bad in all this mixing here.Some praise it and go die for it...some are livid...some lose their loved ones often because of it...It's a mess as crazy bearny says
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Well yes but the closest came the French explenation.However it has still not painted a picture.
How about Kin? As in next of kin?
Why the word kin?
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Kin within our peoples means knee
Knee comes from our word Koljeno.You have to put the l in the j in the same voice which I know is hard for you...
Which is how we describe the next of Kin but not in your family it's more like first cousin second cousin and so on.Not the imidiate first family...
So for example "the book is passed from knee to knee" from kin to kin...
I have a slight suspicion that's how China got its name but I'm not sure. They did find the redhead people there... dead of course....
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Enter-tane-ment

Tane means one. To enter the state of tane is to become one with others. One world one world view everyone the same.

I am barred from Tane, as though by a flaming sword
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Não, não vamos
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Não, não vamos
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primeiro ler depois falar
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And this is exactly where we are today
Nothing to add except here and there...
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Lets.

You first OP!

Let's talk English is anything but English.

Etymology and entomology are both cool :)

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