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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75282507 United States 04/20/2019 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Happened in Oct. and this is the first we hear of it ? Figure Levin or Savage would be all over it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349002 Go to 1:00 in the film. At approximately 1:03, Assange very subtly nods in the affirmative when the interviewer asks if Seth Rich was one of his sources. Wow! Hell, the entire conversation pretty much admits it! Like the interviewer said, why mention it? If he wasn't a source? |
Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States 04/20/2019 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Im not even gonna bother reading any of this ahit anymore. Quoting: 1-2-Follow Its posted daily and nothing happens. Stop wasting your time. When something actually happens, we will know. some could argue your post was a waste of time? This is not posted daily! This is the first I've seen about this FOIA request. When something actually happens? What something are you referring to? And there is no guarantee we will know. Last Edited by Clair-Voyant on 04/20/2019 11:19 AM "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
HollyWho User ID: 71135323 United States 04/20/2019 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. If it's the truth and it incriminates the guilty parties who want to cover their asses, it becomes "top secret". |
Esoterica User ID: 72753273 United States 04/20/2019 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73848670 Canada 04/20/2019 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. If it's the truth and it incriminates the guilty parties who want to cover their asses, it becomes "top secret". I think its more than that. What if "you can't handle the truth" until its all on the table and there is no room for denial. The media has been an arm of the state. Think about it. |
Fire & Ice User ID: 66828859 United States 04/20/2019 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. National security. The truth on Seth Rich could bring the entire deep state house of cards down, most of congress, and possibly the republic itself. Proud to be deplorable The only constant is change The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence "Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep" "One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it" |
wisconsin User ID: 17670353 United States 04/20/2019 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. . ... interesting point ... . ... they OBTAINED top secret info? ... HOW? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States 04/20/2019 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. . ... interesting point ... . ... they OBTAINED top secret info? ... HOW? ... . I made a good guess on page one that explains why this may be classified. The info isn't secret, how they obtained the info is likely why it's classified. Would reveal sources and methods. "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
Buck Rogers User ID: 76916295 United States 04/20/2019 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich “Your request has been processed under the provisions of the FOIA. Fifteen documents (32 pages) responsive to your request have been reviewed by this Agency as required by the FOIA and have found to be currently and properly classified in accordance with Executive Order 13526. These documents meet the criteria for classification as set forth in Subparagraph © of Section 1.4 and remains classified TOP SECRET and SECRET.” Quoting: ProfessorWhistleTitz If NSA had come back and said, “No, we do not have anything pertaining to Seth Rich,” that would have been news. It would have been especially unwelcome news for those who believe that Seth was the source on the DNC emails. But now the opposite is true. The NSA says that it has documents that are classified TS and S. What do those documents say or prove? That remains to be seen.” HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH! < 25% [link to medium.com (secure)] a cover up for the murder of seth rich is top secret lol heres the truth though [link to wikileaks.org (secure)] From:[email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Date: 2015-02-22 21:20 I'm definitely > for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real > basis for it. I think we have to make examples now of people who have violated the trust > of HRC and the rest of the team. His name was Seth Rich The murder of Seth Rich occurred on Sunday, July 10, 2016 he worked for the dnc copy this and plaster this mother fucker every where you see a doubt rub it into the libtards face |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77004814 United States 04/20/2019 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. If it's the truth and it incriminates the guilty parties who want to cover their asses, it becomes "top secret". More likely to protect methods and means. In other words they dont want you to really have proof that they intercept everything and analyse by machine or human threats and intelligence. We "know" but we don't KNOW. |
Paul Drake User ID: 77420325 United States 04/20/2019 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich So if part of the Mueller report is false - can we even trust any of the Mueller report? It reads like its a compilation of the news reports in the last two years - I didn't learn much new information from it - most of its been leaked and reported. There are so many things missing from the report - no mention of Fusion GPS, etc, etc...... I think this FOIA response is extremely important. Last Edited by Paul Drake on 04/20/2019 12:31 PM |
Paul Drake User ID: 77420325 United States 04/20/2019 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. Agree AC. THIS is a very dangerous thing going on in our country. Here's what the FOIA says can be exempted or excluded from FOIA requests: FOIA Exemptions The nine exemption categories that authorize government agencies to withhold information are: classified information for national defense or foreign policy; internal personnel rules and practices; information that is exempt under other laws; trade secrets and confidential business information; inter-agency or intra-agency memoranda or letters that are protected by legal privileges; personnel and medical files; law enforcement records or information; information concerning bank supervision; and geological and geophysical information. FOIA Exclusions Congress provided special protection in the FOIA for three narrow categories of law enforcement and national security records. The provisions protecting those records are known as “exclusions”. The first exclusion protects the existence of an ongoing criminal law enforcement investigation when the subject of the investigation is unaware that it is pending and disclosure could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings. The second exclusion is limited to criminal law enforcement agencies and protects the existence of informant records when the informant’s status has not been officially confirmed. The third exclusion is limited to the FBI and protects the existence of foreign intelligence or counterintelligence, or international terrorism records when the existence of such records is classified. Records falling within exclusion are not subject to the requirements of the FOIA. See 5 U.S.C. §§ 552(c)(1), (c)(2) & (c)(3). Its really hard for me to imagine a private conversation between two non-government individuals becomes 'classified' legitimately. I feel the FOIA system is also being misused. I don't see how the conversations could possibly fit into any of the categories above. |
Paul Drake User ID: 77420325 United States 04/20/2019 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Actually - maybe - just maybe..... At the time this FOIA request was responded to, there was a sealed indictment for Assange - perhaps that is how they could have legitimately withheld the information - but lied and said its classified because they couldn't expose the existence of the indictment. Perhaps someone needs to re-request this using FOIA and see what kind of response comes back now. "ongoing criminal law enforcement investigation when the subject of the investigation is unaware that it is pending and disclosure could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings" |
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Pees and Ques User ID: 75828220 United States 04/20/2019 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. If it's the truth and it incriminates the guilty parties who want to cover their asses, it becomes "top secret". More likely to protect methods and means. In other words they dont want you to really have proof that they intercept everything and analyse by machine or human threats and intelligence. We "know" but we don't KNOW. We already know NSA intelligence intercepts everything. If any of this went across the transatlantic cables, of course it was captured. Was there a FISA request to tap the Ecuqdorian embassy? Hey, that even sounds like a legit FISA request. The point is Assange and Rich were in contact. What do you think they were talking about? |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77556714 United States 04/20/2019 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Come on ... how SLOW are you people? Did all of your ride the "Short Bus" to school? Of course it's "TOP SECRET" ... you can't imagine the DEEP STATE would want to destroy the Narrative that ALL the stuff that Assange put out that hurt Clinton AND the Deep State came from the Russians would you? In order to keep the RUSSIAN NARRATIVE going they HAVE to keep the public from even getting a hint that Assange got information from Seth Richards. IF they would release information that indicates Seth Richards was "feeding" information to Assange that would ALSO bring into question the small problem of Seth Richards MURDER, which they "claim" was just a random robbery attempt. It would open up a huge can of worms as to OTHERS HAVING A MOTIVE to "eliminate the risk" to Hillary's Presidential Campaign. After all wouldn't MURDER for the purpose of gaining or keeping political power, or money, be the LAST thing on the minds of the Clintons, or those around them? Midwest Skeptic |
Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77556714 United States 04/20/2019 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. Agree AC. THIS is a very dangerous thing going on in our country. Here's what the FOIA says can be exempted or excluded from FOIA requests: FOIA Exemptions The nine exemption categories that authorize government agencies to withhold information are: classified information for national defense or foreign policy; internal personnel rules and practices; information that is exempt under other laws; trade secrets and confidential business information; inter-agency or intra-agency memoranda or letters that are protected by legal privileges; personnel and medical files; law enforcement records or information; information concerning bank supervision; and geological and geophysical information. FOIA Exclusions Congress provided special protection in the FOIA for three narrow categories of law enforcement and national security records. The provisions protecting those records are known as “exclusions”. The first exclusion protects the existence of an ongoing criminal law enforcement investigation when the subject of the investigation is unaware that it is pending and disclosure could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings. The second exclusion is limited to criminal law enforcement agencies and protects the existence of informant records when the informant’s status has not been officially confirmed. The third exclusion is limited to the FBI and protects the existence of foreign intelligence or counterintelligence, or international terrorism records when the existence of such records is classified. Records falling within exclusion are not subject to the requirements of the FOIA. See 5 U.S.C. §§ 552(c)(1), (c)(2) & (c)(3). Its really hard for me to imagine a private conversation between two non-government individuals becomes 'classified' legitimately. I feel the FOIA system is also being misused. I don't see how the conversations could possibly fit into any of the categories above. REMEMBER to THANK G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney for the entire FISA Court system ... AND for the huge expansion of Government Data Collection on EVERY citizen in the US by the NSA. This was G.W. Bush's and Dick Cheney's FOREVER gift to the United States ... ie: an out of control Government that can IGNORE the people and DESTROY all who oppose the insiders who are running the Government. THEIR "Gift" keeps on "GIVING!! ... (and effectively, for most purposes, overrides the "Bill of Rights") (The next time anybody runs into either of them I hope you spit on the floor next to them to indicate what you think of them - too bad the old man, Mr. Deep State personified - is now dead, otherwise you could spit on the floor next to him too!!) Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 04/20/2019 02:27 PM Midwest Skeptic |
Big Duke6 User ID: 77566436 Canada 04/20/2019 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Leaves out the part having to do with the Clintoons approaching the Donald to run for the GOP candidate, and that the friendly MSM and the Russians using weaponized social media, would power the hot mess that is the Donald through the far better candidates in the GOP Primary field. 3 way conspiracy, of which they're all guilty. Donald wasn't supposed to win, and only did it because Vlad dangled a Trump tower deal. The irony is Hildawg was such a lousy candidate, she couldn't even beat the Donald. Legally, there is a 3way conspiracy, and no matter who the Russians were promoting, its orange jump-suits all around. Here's hoping for this truth to come out ... it certainly fits the known facts. Last Edited by Big Duke6 on 04/20/2019 02:51 PM |
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vEyeSea User ID: 21337117 United States 04/20/2019 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich Neither one had a security clearance. The information was classified that way to keep it from becoming public. But there's no classified information in these pages. To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
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confused_but_not_idiot User ID: 39111127 United States 04/20/2019 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich How the FUCK does correspondence between two individual NON GOVERNMENT individuals become TOP SECRET??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437 Am I the only one that understands what a perversion that is and what it means when agencies classify private correspondence as TOP SECRET? Probably the significance is lost on most of you, the concept that govt can make truth top secret and keep the public in the dark about things that affect them and their future, to their detriment. That is the essence of corruption. Fuckin spot on and a good point neither one had security clearance to warrant a top secret designation..... Two private citizens exchanging dialogue becomes TOP SECRET... Agreed and it shocking to see how weak everything is....it's like they know the foundations are rotted and it won't take much to knock the whole thing down My guess of why it's classified is not due to the discussion of Assange and Seth Rich, but due to the fact that it may reveal sources and methods of how the NSA obtained the private conversations. Just a guess. Exactly this^^^ No. It is classified because 1. the public isn't supposed to know that these exist and that nsa gets copies of all email and all electronic communications 2. they have been told 100 times that seth didn't give assange the emails, and that keeping that lie intact is a matter of national security at this point, especially given the cost of the muller report and that the main point of it is just simple that seth didn't give the emails. Last Edited by confused_but_not_idiot on 04/20/2019 04:00 PM I may be confused, but I am not an idiot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77419105 United States 04/20/2019 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich former NSA expert bill binney found that timestamp data on DNC files supposedly hacked by guccifer 2.0 were not consistent with remote transfer because the data speed would be higher than almost anything available at the time, but instead were consistent with those files being copied locally onto possibly a USB drive the source for Wikileaks DNC material was Seth Rich ... Julian Assange almost stated this directly but held back to maintain standards for source anonymity Seth rich was murdered for attempting to expose DNC efforts to steal primary from Bernie sanders just do a real investigation and catch whoever actually murdered Seth rich ... its fine. just do it ***** [link to theintercept.com (secure)] “Forensic studies of ‘Russian hacking’ into Democratic National Committee computers last year reveal that on July 5, 2016, data was leaked (not hacked) by a person with physical access to DNC computer,” the memo states. The memo’s conclusions were based on analyses of metadata provided by the online persona Guccifer 2.0, who took credit for the alleged hack. “Key among the findings of the independent forensic investigations is the conclusion that the DNC data was copied onto a storage device at a speed that far exceeds an Internet capability for a remote hack.” |
thinking... User ID: 77449103 United States 04/20/2019 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOIA Response Indicates 32+ pages of SECRET/TOP SECRET correspondence between Assange aAnd Seth Rich I've not read through this thread yet but did read the OP linked Medium article and followed to the blog of the lawyer suing Seth Rich's parents and the lying shitbag DNC operatives. In reading the complaint, or whatever it's called, the reason that Julian Assange has refused to reveal the source - which everyone wonders about since he (Seth Rich) is dead - becomes crystal clear: the other source was Aaron Rich, Seth's brother, and he's still alive. That Assange would keep his word and not reveal a (living) source - Aaron Rich, who has engaged in the smearing of Assange to cover his own ass - is a testament to Assange's integrity. 53. In recorded interviews and written reports, Mr. Wheeler stated that Aaron Rich repeatedly told him not to investigate anything pertaining to Seth Rich's email communications or his work at the DNC, and that Aaron Rich denied him access to Seth Rich's computer and electronic devices. Mr. Wheeler further said Aaron Rich claimed that he had already investigated the emails on his own, and Mr. Wheeler later acknowledged that it was highly suspicious for Aaron Rich to prohibit any review of Seth Rich's email communications and to prohibit interviews of Seth Rich's former co-workers. 54. Aaron Rich's suspicious behavior continued after Mr. Wheeler was terminated. Mr. Rich claimed that he was only seeking the truth when he filed suit against Mr. Butowsky, but he refused to sign a waiver authorizing Wikileaks to reveal what it knows about Seth Rich's involvement in the DNC email leaks. His attorneys subsequently claimed that they would issue their own subpoena for Wikileaks. They have since reneged, however, because they realized that Wikileaks would likely construe the subpoena as a waiver, in which case it would likely release records showing that Aaron Rich and Seth Rich were both responsible for leaking the DNC emails. [link to lawflog.com] Last Edited by thinking... on 04/20/2019 06:42 PM In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |