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A Texas man who called 911 to request medical assistance for a diabetic seizure earned a tasering from local cops for his trouble, the Waxahachie Daily Light reports.

Allen Nelms, 52, was suffering said seizure "during the early morning hours of April 28 when his girlfriend, Josie Edwards, called 911 to request paramedics".

A police officer duly turned up at the house on Waxahachie's east side, "inquired as to what was going on", then called for back-up. Shortly after, and as Nelms was "in his bed in the couple's bedroom", cops "burst in with their guns drawn and yelling at him to get on the floor".

Edwards recalled "about six or seven police officers kicked the front door in and stormed the back bedroom where she said she could hear one telling Nelms to get on the floor". Her statement, which forms part of an written complaint made by Nelms to the Waxahachie police department, says: "Allen was shouting, 'Please don't do me like this. I just need help.' Next thing I heard some 'zing' noise and Allen was shouting. I asked what were they doing to him. One policeman replied, 'We just took care of him.' ... After they did their shooting and laughing, they came out [of] the rooms. The paramedics had to pull out the Tasers."

Nelms claims he was "struck by Taser barbs on his left side, his back and his shoulder" as he went to roll over, and subsequently handcuffed, with "paramedics intervening when the officers began trying to yank the Taser barbs from his skin". The paramedics removed the barbs, checked Nelms' blood sugar level, and the cuffs came off. He was neither arrested nor charged.

In an interview with the Daily Light, Nelms added: "One of the officers said I 'lunged' at him. I asked him, 'How can I lunge at you from my back and on my bed?'" He said he had "never had a problem in calling for paramedics before, and there is no history of his becoming violent when he is having a diabetic seizure".

Edwards' statement says: "Of the 16 years that we [have] lived here and called for paramedics, police decide to come and take over and try to almost kill the man. They never asked any questions [like] did he have a heart pacer, they just wanted to have fun by shooting Tasers and handcuffing the man after he was shot."

Nelms' written complaint states: "I respect the law and police but on this day I was a shooting target for them when I needed help."

Nelms has contacted Waxahachie attorney Rodney Ramsey, who told the Daily Light he has "filed notice with the city on Nelms' behalf to preserve all documentation and evidence relating to the incident". Ramsey said: "This police department has a bad history of disparate treatment on the east side. They're not treated fairly. They're not treated justly. I bet the police wouldn't kick in a white man's door on Spring Creek at 4:30am and Taser him three or four times."

Ramsey declared: "I don't care if I make a dime on this case. I don't care if this costs me money. I want to know what policy says you can kick somebody's door down and Taser them for asking for medical help. This is not going to happen in this town anymore."

Ramsey added that he "wants the names of the officers involved in the incident and that he will renew his efforts to see a citizens review board of police established in the city of Waxahachie, saying that while the majority of the department's officers are good officers, there are some whose actions are questionable".

The Waxahachie police department conducted an internal investigation into the matter, and informed Nelms: "A review regarding your written complaint dated May 3, 2007, was conducted. After careful consideration of your allegations we have found that the officers were within our departmental policies regarding the use of a less than lethal force option (TASER) on you during an event at your residence on April 28, 2007."

Litigation is now likely, and due to a provision of the Open Records Act, which "allows governmental agencies to withhold otherwise releasable materials under an exception of pending litigation", documentation relating to the incident is not currently available for public scrutiny. Ramsey warned: "They better have everything they have on this. There had better not be one piece of evidence that is shredded in this case."

Police Chief Chuck Edge said: "We acknowledge an incident occurred and allegations of excessive force made. We have looked into the incident and [due to the "pending litigation Open Record exception"] cannot talk about it any further." ®
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Re: Texas cops taser diabetic man having seizure
Where is THE ROPE when we need it ?

The Revolution is coming !
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Fuckin A. Cops used to be intelligent, civil, courteous, and ready to help.

Over the years, they have become increasingly militarized. Now they see themselves as a crack special forces unit or something. Call for help and they fucking swat team you, guns drawn and ready to pump you full of lead.

I say get rid of em. Encourage people to arm themselves and get to know all their neighbors. We'd have less crime and no pigs itching to off innocent people, ready to squeal, "He lunged at me," in unison.
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So, this victim was black, right? wtf
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Put the cop on a taser for a couple of hours !
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Is it just me, or do the cops seem really "tazer happy" lately?

They are like kids with a new toy, and no one to use it on...

These tazers are just the start.

Pretty soon they will have microwave portable guns, they can fry you at a distance if you even mention the word constitution...
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bump
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know what you call this guy? wealthy!!
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calling 911 for a cop killer ... guess who's coming then
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So where does this take the country??? Are all the citizens supose to burn down all the P.D.'s in the USA to show that they are FED-UP with this CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR??? It would be a truely sad day when one is forced to deal with criminal behavior with criminal behavior!!!!
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06/29/2007 06:19 PM
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Ok, am I missing something?

Where in all this are we to believe that the diabetic man was a criminal? He was having a seizure, since when has that been illegal? What the hell were the cops doing there in the first place?
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06/29/2007 06:22 PM
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The good thing here is that this innocent victim will soon OWN the fucking police department.

Fascist bastards.
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06/29/2007 06:30 PM
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That's the biggest problem with "less than lethal" weapons...the dipschit cops are more than willing to use them...Lots of deaths have resulted from tasers...

Also, at least on cop was shot because he was a bit hasty with his pepper spray on a traffic stop...

Not aimed at good policemen......
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Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.
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Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.
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So, in summary, get good with a gun!
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Re: Texas cops taser diabetic man having seizure
Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 141308


I remember reading a great story about the most criminal town in the US.

Worcester, Mass., back in the 40's and 50's.

The fucking OFF-DUTY COPS were doing all the robbing!

lol
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Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.


I remember reading a great story about the most criminal town in the US.

Worcester, Mass., back in the 40's and 50's.

The fucking OFF-DUTY COPS were doing all the robbing!

lol
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That's very interesting if true..gonna search on it...Is that where our Worcestershire sauce comes from? LOL!
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Not a good day for diabetics...

Police: Diabetic Man Missing After Being Kicked Off Train

PHOENIX -- A 65-year-old St. Louis man is missing after Amtrak personnel, mistaking his diabetic shock for drunk and disorderly behavior, kicked him off a train in the middle of a national forest, according to police in Williams, Ariz.

He was let off in the middle of a national forest, which is about 800,000 acres of beautiful pine trees," Lt. Mike Graham said.

Police said there is no train station or running water at the crossing, which is about two miles from the nearest road, at an elevation of about 8,000 feet.

Amtrak personnel told police dispatchers that Sims was drunk and unruly.

The Sims family said Sims is diabetic and was going into shock.

[link to www.kpho.com]
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cops on meth
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Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.


I remember reading a great story about the most criminal town in the US.

Worcester, Mass., back in the 40's and 50's.

The fucking OFF-DUTY COPS were doing all the robbing!

lol



That's very interesting if true..gonna search on it...Is that where our Worcestershire sauce comes from? LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258215


No way, man!

The excellent Worcestershire Sauce is strictly from Britain!
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For any who doubt that America is rapidly sliding into Fascism and a police state...articles like this should give you a clue.
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Fuckin A. Cops used to be intelligent, civil, courteous, and ready to help.

Over the years, they have become increasingly militarized. Now they see themselves as a crack special forces unit or something. Call for help and they fucking swat team you, guns drawn and ready to pump you full of lead.

I say get rid of em. Encourage people to arm themselves and get to know all their neighbors. We'd have less crime and no pigs itching to off innocent people, ready to squeal, "He lunged at me," in unison.
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this is a False Flag operation: look at the names of the involved,

Allen Nel(ms)/Victim: Alphabet Boy
Josie Edward(s)/Girlfriend: Alphabet Girl
Rodney Ramsey/Thier Lawyer: Alphabet Boy

Identify Alphabet Agents by their names folks

2 first names, or First and Last names have same initial
(see presidential hopefulls names)

the why= to give everyday cops a bad name so they can bring in the military or other "special security teams".

3 names..... James Earl RAY, Lee Harvey OSWALD & Sirhan SIRHAN. also interesting to find out is the only person ever escaping death row(out of 120) under gov. boy lover george bush,(bush commuted his sentence to life) was...............DRUMMROLL PLEASE..................

HENRY LEE LUCAS- Claimed to have tortured, mutilated and beheaded 600+ victims. never extradited for his crimes in other states.
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You Have Seen Nothing Yet.

Ya e shu a
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You Have Seen Nothing Yet.

Ya e shu a
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To people like you:

I'm just tired of the doom....

Do you think there aren't wolves amongst the sheep?

You don't think that there are a LOT of folks who will say NO to you and your ilk? Up yours. Traitor
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Fuckin A. Cops used to be intelligent, civil, courteous, and ready to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254792


A lot of the cops today are criminal roid-heads and/or crack heads.

Do you really think the cops destroy all the drugs, guns and property they confiscate? After they make a phony show on TV of "destroying" illegal drugs or confiscated weapons, they take the good stuff home with them.

Whatever's not valuable or considered junk in terms of confiscated property ends up at the yearly police auction.
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Just goes to show, don't expect the cops to help under any circumstances. Though there are exceptions, the majority are power hungry morons who do not even know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. When the crap hits the fan, you can fully expect the cops in your town to join the ranks of the cops during and after hurricane Katrina. They will be AWOL and committing crime. It is time that people wake up and see the truth. The world is collapsing around us and the time is very close at hand where it will be every man for himself.



So, in summary, get good with a gun!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258215


Guns wont help. They will have MICROWAVE lazer weapons. they turn it on 11 and your now a 'nuked human shishkabob'
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Not a good day for diabetics...

Police: Diabetic Man Missing After Being Kicked Off Train

PHOENIX -- A 65-year-old St. Louis man is missing after Amtrak personnel, mistaking his diabetic shock for drunk and disorderly behavior, kicked him off a train in the middle of a national forest, according to police in Williams, Ariz.

He was let off in the middle of a national forest, which is about 800,000 acres of beautiful pine trees," Lt. Mike Graham said.

Police said there is no train station or running water at the crossing, which is about two miles from the nearest road, at an elevation of about 8,000 feet.

Amtrak personnel told police dispatchers that Sims was drunk and unruly.

The Sims family said Sims is diabetic and was going into shock.

[link to www.kpho.com]
 Quoting: Unhinged Loon


This is very sad. I'm sure he did not survive, and probably suffered a lot before he died. Unbelievable.
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The good thing here is that this innocent victim will soon OWN the fucking police department.

Fascist bastards.
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That's no way guaranteed, not in that red neck town. I've been there and it was a bad vibe. The citizens will probably side with the cops and he'll lose the case. They like their cops like that and even encourage it no doubt.
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FILTHY PIGS
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TASERS ARE LIKE A NEW TOY FOR A LITTLE BOY.

'OHH GOODIE, A NEW TOY TO TRY ON SOMEBODY'.

GUESS WHO THE SOMEBODY IS.

THE SYSTEMS KNOWS HOW TO EXPLOIT COPS TOO.
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Not a good day for diabetics...

Police: Diabetic Man Missing After Being Kicked Off Train

PHOENIX -- A 65-year-old St. Louis man is missing after Amtrak personnel, mistaking his diabetic shock for drunk and disorderly behavior, kicked him off a train in the middle of a national forest, according to police in Williams, Ariz.

He was let off in the middle of a national forest, which is about 800,000 acres of beautiful pine trees," Lt. Mike Graham said.

Police said there is no train station or running water at the crossing, which is about two miles from the nearest road, at an elevation of about 8,000 feet.

Amtrak personnel told police dispatchers that Sims was drunk and unruly.

The Sims family said Sims is diabetic and was going into shock.

[link to www.kpho.com]


This is very sad. I'm sure he did not survive, and probably suffered a lot before he died. Unbelievable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2298


This happened just yesterday. How very sad indeed. Like the family said, No one should be dropped off in the middle of a forest at 8,000 ft. That's just insane.

I pray they find this poor man alive.





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