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Thailand's navy towed to shore a floating cabin & charged a U.S. citizen and his Thai gf with violating Thai sovereignty, punishable by death
The threat of death sentences against a couple who set up an offshore home near a Thai island, has sparked a debate on the growing "seasteading" movement and the right to create floating settlements to cope with the effects of climate change.

Thailand's navy on Monday towed to shore a floating cabin which had been set on top of a spar 14 nautical miles off Phuket.

Authorities said the structure was within the country's 200-mile exclusive economic zone, and charged U.S. citizen Chad Elwartowski and his Thai girlfriend with violating Thai sovereignty, punishable by death penalty or life in prison.

The whereabouts of the couple are unknown.

Ocean Builders, which funded and built the cabin, said on its website the structure was in international waters.

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Piracy.
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Well what do you expect from a government that sided with Imperial Japan (never punished for that by the way)?
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The don't want anyone having individual sovereignty... the whole world is a slave system with psychopaths and idiots in power.
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The don't want anyone having individual sovereignty... the whole world is a slave system with psychopaths and idiots in power.
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Re: Thailand's navy towed to shore a floating cabin & charged a U.S. citizen and his Thai gf with violating Thai sovereignty, punishable by death
WHAT!!??

They aren't being provided with FREE Housing?
They aren't being provided with FREE Medical Care?
They aren't being provided with FREE Transportation to wherever they want to go in Thailand?
Their kids (if they have any) aren't being provided with FREE education?

Obviously Thailand is not nearly as "advanced" a culture as the US is, as Western Europe is, as New Zealand is, as Canada is!!

FREE STUFF for non-citizens who didn't immigrate Legally, NOT jail, is the mantra of those more "advanced" cultures!! Thailand is way behind the times.
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Yes Chad is still in hiding but it looks like his seasted is still floating around.

His Facebook pages is public got this from there. Location of the seasted from the tracker. Update was only a few minutes ago.

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Yes Chad is still in hiding but it looks like his seasted is still floating around.

His Facebook pages is public got this from there. Location of the seasted from the tracker. Update was only a few minutes ago.

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The Thai Navy dismantled and removed their sestead yesterday.

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It’s because he’s having sex with young Thai girls
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A fucking life sentence. Jesus fucking Christy
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Let China absorb them! Fuckem
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Why is this thread one starred to death?
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Bottom line: a military gov can do whatever wants
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The don't want anyone having individual sovereignty... the whole world is a slave system with psychopaths and idiots in power.
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I still can't believe this guy didn't check with the Thai government before he spent a couple hundred thousand dollars to build his water-shack in their back yard. Yeah, it's international waters, but the Exclusive Economic Zone is the new territorial waters and governments are not just gonna let you set up shop inside them. It's bullshit, but unless you can defend your seasted against the local authorities, this is what happens. Might makes right. Same as it ever was.
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The don't want anyone having individual sovereignty... the whole world is a slave system with psychopaths and idiots in power.
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Not like we are going to extradite anyone to them.
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WHAT!!??

They aren't being provided with FREE Housing?
They aren't being provided with FREE Medical Care?
They aren't being provided with FREE Transportation to wherever they want to go in Thailand?
Their kids (if they have any) aren't being provided with FREE education?

Obviously Thailand is not nearly as "advanced" a culture as the US is, as Western Europe is, as New Zealand is, as Canada is!!

FREE STUFF for non-citizens who didn't immigrate Legally, NOT jail, is the mantra of those more "advanced" cultures!! Thailand is way behind the times.
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This
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Not like we are going to extradite anyone to them.
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I sure hope he and his wife were able to make it here. This is the kind of case a government uses to make an example and send a message.
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Seasted is that like a sheshed? Exclusive Economic zones are the new international borders and allow jurisdiction on the high seas of everyone. You want sovereignty. Get to Mars first and claim it for your self. Then have the firepower to keep it.

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The threat of death sentences against a couple who set up an offshore home near a Thai island, has sparked a debate on the growing "seasteading" movement and the right to create floating settlements to cope with the effects of climate change.

Thailand's navy on Monday towed to shore a floating cabin which had been set on top of a spar 14 nautical miles off Phuket.

Authorities said the structure was within the country's 200-mile exclusive economic zone, and charged U.S. citizen Chad Elwartowski and his Thai girlfriend with violating Thai sovereignty, punishable by death penalty or life in prison.

The whereabouts of the couple are unknown.

Ocean Builders, which funded and built the cabin, said on its website the structure was in international waters.

[link to news.trust.org]

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The sad part is that when illegal border jumpers come here they do not get the death penalty for violating our sovereignty.
Enjoying my deplorable privilege daily.
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Seasted is that like a sheshed? Economic zones are the new international a borders and allow jurisdiction on the high seas of everyone. You want sovereignty. Get to Mars first and claim it for your self. Then have the firepower to keep it.
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They'd probably leave you alone if you built a seasted in the middle of the Great Pacific Garbage patch, but other than that, yeah, get to Mars. Earth is claimed, and this guy is a pirate two hundred years too late.




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Yes why aren't we death penaltying more mexos and affos at the border?

Those chapis na ggers have no intention of stopping there, they just want through to get to here. I thought cia was supposed to poison them all? What are we paying these cush lives of thiers for?
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I guarantee you if Bhumibol Adulyadej were still king, this would not be happening.
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WHAT!!??

They aren't being provided with FREE Housing?
They aren't being provided with FREE Medical Care?
They aren't being provided with FREE Transportation to wherever they want to go in Thailand?
Their kids (if they have any) aren't being provided with FREE education?

Obviously Thailand is not nearly as "advanced" a culture as the US is, as Western Europe is, as New Zealand is, as Canada is!!

FREE STUFF for non-citizens who didn't immigrate Legally, NOT jail, is the mantra of those more "advanced" cultures!! Thailand is way behind the times.
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


This
 Quoting: Brown Chicken Brown Cow


Thailand does have free health care if you are poor.

If you lose your job, you can stay in the Thai version of Medicare for about $15/month.
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I posted about this 4 days ago and got zero interest. Funny how things work.
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I admire adventurous and brave individuals who do things like this, there really should be more tolerance of them.
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Not like we are going to extradite anyone to them.
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I sure hope he and his wife were able to make it here. This is the kind of case a government uses to make an example and send a message.
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It would be a terrible message because Trump would make them pay dearly for it.
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Seasted is that like a sheshed? Economic zones are the new international a borders and allow jurisdiction on the high seas of everyone. You want sovereignty. Get to Mars first and claim it for your self. Then have the firepower to keep it.
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They'd probably leave you alone if you built a seasted in the middle of the Great Pacific Garbage patch, but other than that, yeah, get to Mars. Earth is claimed.



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The guy was a big giant idiot goomer - as if he never had any education, raising or regard.
First they made up bitcoin pyramid scam and got away with it, then he started a "movement" which he stated was to avoid paying taxes - dumb dumb pay-to-play believer casualty.
I don't care? Not only poor diplomatic skills, an idiot and cheesy......
Guess he learned "mini money", brief money, doesn't really mean sh*t and unlike the American govt, some people are serious....
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I guarantee you if Bhumibol Adulyadej were still king, this would not be happening.
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Agreed.

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