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Has anyone moved from suburbs/city to rural/small town to remove kids from entitled atmosphere? I’m trying to decide..

 
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Has anyone moved from suburbs/city to rural/small town to remove kids from entitled atmosphere? I’m trying to decide..
3 kids. High schooler has 2 more years, so staying here until he graduates. Kids go to an excellent, highly rated, private school. We live in an affluent suburb, bordering a southern city best described at ghettoish, in a poor state. There is a big concentration of wealth and those who aspire to act and feel wealthy. No crime to speak of, every amenity. Sounds as if I’d be crazy to leave, BUT I feel the atmosphere may be hurting my kids. My 6th grader thinks she’s deprived because all the other girls have IPhone X. 🙄 I’d love to say she’s exaggerating, but I talk to the moms and as far as I know, there’s only one other kid in her grade without an iPhone. It would be funny, except I’m talking about my childrens’ lives.

We can relocate to an area where the education won’t be as top notch, the extracurricular activities will be limited, but I have to admit I enjoy the time I spend there. I have family and already own the property. Low pressure, down to earth people, good values. People seem more “real”. I am curious if anyone else has traded convenience and the “good life” in exchange for a life that doesn’t give their kids as many obvious advantages, but shows them how most of the world lives, keeps them close to family, nature and teaches a work ethic. I’m already seeing the results of living amongst nothing but entitled kids in my oldest and I’m just not sure I want to stay on this ride. I’d love to hear from those who have faced similar decisions. Anyone? My husband will go along with whatever I decide. His choice to be that way, not mine, btw.
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Do they hate Trump?
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Nope. They are prolife, don’t buy into the LGBTQXYZ or Islam.
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Not that these are things are mutually exclusive. My kids are conservative,, however.
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3 kids. High schooler has 2 more years, so staying here until he graduates. Kids go to an excellent, highly rated, private school. We live in an affluent suburb, bordering a southern city best described at ghettoish, in a poor state. There is a big concentration of wealth and those who aspire to act and feel wealthy. No crime to speak of, every amenity. Sounds as if I’d be crazy to leave, BUT I feel the atmosphere may be hurting my kids. My 6th grader thinks she’s deprived because all the other girls have IPhone X. 🙄 I’d love to say she’s exaggerating, but I talk to the moms and as far as I know, there’s only one other kid in her grade without an iPhone. It would be funny, except I’m talking about my childrens’ lives.

We can relocate to an area where the education won’t be as top notch, the extracurricular activities will be limited, but I have to admit I enjoy the time I spend there. I have family and already own the property. Low pressure, down to earth people, good values. People seem more “real”. I am curious if anyone else has traded convenience and the “good life” in exchange for a life that doesn’t give their kids as many obvious advantages, but shows them how most of the world lives, keeps them close to family, nature and teaches a work ethic. I’m already seeing the results of living amongst nothing but entitled kids in my oldest and I’m just not sure I want to stay on this ride. I’d love to hear from those who have faced similar decisions. Anyone? My husband will go along with whatever I decide. His choice to be that way, not mine, btw.
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Well i would recommend New York - upstate

Try the Fingerlakes- any town ..real nice
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3 kids. High schooler has 2 more years, so staying here until he graduates. Kids go to an excellent, highly rated, private school. We live in an affluent suburb, bordering a southern city best described at ghettoish, in a poor state. There is a big concentration of wealth and those who aspire to act and feel wealthy. No crime to speak of, every amenity. Sounds as if I’d be crazy to leave, BUT I feel the atmosphere may be hurting my kids. My 6th grader thinks she’s deprived because all the other girls have IPhone X. 🙄 I’d love to say she’s exaggerating, but I talk to the moms and as far as I know, there’s only one other kid in her grade without an iPhone. It would be funny, except I’m talking about my childrens’ lives.

We can relocate to an area where the education won’t be as top notch, the extracurricular activities will be limited, but I have to admit I enjoy the time I spend there. I have family and already own the property. Low pressure, down to earth people, good values. People seem more “real”. I am curious if anyone else has traded convenience and the “good life” in exchange for a life that doesn’t give their kids as many obvious advantages, but shows them how most of the world lives, keeps them close to family, nature and teaches a work ethic. I’m already seeing the results of living amongst nothing but entitled kids in my oldest and I’m just not sure I want to stay on this ride. I’d love to hear from those who have faced similar decisions. Anyone? My husband will go along with whatever I decide. His choice to be that way, not mine, btw.
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Sounds like you are in Atlanta - Do it and move!
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Move now, or your oldest will endure two more years of indoctrination.
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Re: Has anyone moved from suburbs/city to rural/small town to remove kids from entitled atmosphere? I’m trying to decide..
If you know law, you know lawyers have too much paperwork and that there's more rules/regulations, today than there ever has been.

The suburbs of the South aren't always that affluent. Being a pharmaceutical rep, owning a business that builds the city etc. doesn't always cut it (because the real economy has been dog shit for a decade).

Secondly, your having to send your kids to a private school in a nice suburb in the South?

It sounds like your school system got taken over by the city.

If your school system seperated from the city school system, then why not just send them to public school?

Lastly, depending on your county, you could have new rules/regulations on some river/creek that has dramatically destroyed the value of land in the area which puts almost everyone that owns a home literally underwater with their mortgage.

City life, suburb life, rural life.

For children and raising them in this world?

I'd chose rural life and a private school, nature, etc.

But, you have to find a rural area without an alcohol/drug problem (some areas in South Carolina are nice).

I think learning with your hands with unlimited education via the internet and private schools in a rural area is the way to live life.

Houses aren't an investment, they are just the place you live.

You can work as a lawyer with some fresh air away from all the insane amount of paperwork coming at you.

And it is cheaper.

I've experienced all three. (million dollar homes in the city, suburb life, and rural life).

Rural life is always a more hands on experience. The air is fresher.

City life is either poor/rich life regardless

and the suburbs are just too "comfy" to understand that real life isn't that comfy.
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Lastly, depending on your county, you could have new rules/regulations on some river/creek that has dramatically destroyed the value of land in the area which puts almost everyone that owns a home literally underwater with their mortgage.
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While Zillow values your home at the highest levels in history, but you won't be able to sell it for that much.

The wealthier suburb outside of your's might entirely be underwater (e.g. million dollar homes on a golf course, nicer schools, but because of the regulations of the creeks/river, all those homes are underwater!)

...and you live 10 minutes away!

What's your gut to tell you?
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I moved to the country with my mom after their divorce.

I was in high school.

I went from a suburban school district with 5000 seniors to a senior class of 58.

I instantaneously went from an average/above average student to straight A's.

It took a bit of time, but met some of the best quality friends there...like I never had before.

They were cautious, but curious and I ended up a well liked member of the community.

I also remember, as a kid, I mouthed about hating it. And I did return to the metro area after school.

But looking back, it was one of the best experiences of my life.

Because of it, I'm looking forward to purchase property out rural somewhere most entirely based on what I experienced prior.

It's a shock. It takes getting used to. There will be good days and bad days...but the overall is something to cherish.

A fantastic perspective, and life and attitude changing.

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Re: Has anyone moved from suburbs/city to rural/small town to remove kids from entitled atmosphere? I’m trying to decide..
Thanks, guys. Private school isn’t a necessity in our district, but I am not a fan of government agendas/common core, etc. Drugs are an issue in rural areas, but seem to be an issue everywhere. My gut tells me living next to a city that is run by a radical mayor, with one of the highest per capita murder rates and is currently 14% white(less in 2020 census, hide and watch), while spending all we have to keep our kids in an environment that while safe, produces many kids with no work ethic, common sense, etc., isn’t a long term plan. I grew up in the 1970s/1980s and I never thought I’d long for those days like they were a Little House on the Prairie.
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My parents moved my brother and sister to a more rural area to get away from bad influences in the city. My brother found new friends who were into drugs and heavy drinking. Screwed him up. My sister got kicked out of school for drinking. She’s now had multiple DUIs. My brother has social issues and still lives at home and refuses to work. Taking brat kids to the simpler life didn’t work for them. My older bro and I were never relocated and no attempts were made to shelter us. We turned out alright and both have solid careers and families.
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Moved from dallas to small town in missouri...much happier...
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I moved to the country with my mom after their divorce.

I was in high school.

I went from a suburban school district with 5000 seniors to a senior class of 58.

I instantaneously went from an average/above average student to straight A's.

It took a bit of time, but met some of the best quality friends there...like I never had before.

They were cautious, but curious and I ended up a well liked member of the community.

I also remember, as a kid, I mouthed about hating it. And I did return to the metro area after school.

But looking back, it was one of the best experiences of my life.

Because of it, I'm looking forward to purchase property out rural somewhere most entirely based on what I experienced prior.

It's a shock. It takes getting used to. There will be good days and bad days...but the overall is something to cherish.

A fantastic perspective, and life and attitude changing.

rockon
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Thanks. This is what I’m hoping for. My mother moved me at 16, also due to divorce. I complained, but I wouldn’t take anything for the time with my grandparents, I learned a lot and still have friends from the 2 years I spent there. It is different, but life is so fast these days. Slowing down might be a good th8ng for all of us.
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What the fuck are you waiting for????

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I moved to the country with my mom after their divorce.

I was in high school.

I went from a suburban school district with 5000 seniors to a senior class of 58.

I instantaneously went from an average/above average student to straight A's.

It took a bit of time, but met some of the best quality friends there...like I never had before.

They were cautious, but curious and I ended up a well liked member of the community.

I also remember, as a kid, I mouthed about hating it. And I did return to the metro area after school.

But looking back, it was one of the best experiences of my life.

Because of it, I'm looking forward to purchase property out rural somewhere most entirely based on what I experienced prior.

It's a shock. It takes getting used to. There will be good days and bad days...but the overall is something to cherish.

A fantastic perspective, and life and attitude changing.

rockon
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Thanks. This is what I’m hoping for. My mother moved me at 16, also due to divorce. I complained, but I wouldn’t take anything for the time with my grandparents, I learned a lot and still have friends from the 2 years I spent there. It is different, but life is so fast these days. Slowing down might be a good th8ng for all of us.
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You know then. You also know your answer too.

The biggest takeaway, the chance to experience a quality, wholesome change!!!

You will do it, and you will do well!

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My parents moved my brother and sister to a more rural area to get away from bad influences in the city. My brother found new friends who were into drugs and heavy drinking. Screwed him up. My sister got kicked out of school for drinking. She’s now had multiple DUIs. My brother has social issues and still lives at home and refuses to work. Taking brat kids to the simpler life didn’t work for them. My older bro and I were never relocated and no attempts were made to shelter us. We turned out alright and both have solid careers and families.
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This is the worst case scenario that I fear. No crystal balls to look into, unfortunately. Things can always go either way. That’s what makes it tough.
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I don't think you should wait.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)
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Better do it now before kids get bit older as it will be harder to make new friends.



I moved from busy tourist beach spot.. To much traffic shops full of kids doing nothing to a town never looked back.
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I have, to small town life, nice small town, good schools etc. and then back again to the city. My kid, a teen, wants to go back to the small town, the city has become to kinetic and chaotic for him now, he learned the grace of silence in nature...

Cities are great to visit from time to time, the cultural richness, the food, the distractions, but nothing can replace ones connection to a quiet mind, even in a teen, it is the true nature of our souls journey, not the noise of man made constructs. It is where they can hear the voice of their heart.

I myself am more than happy to indulge, as my motherhood is always enhanced my own personal sense of wellbeing through my connection to the natural world. I'll take a garden or forest of delight over a penthouse view any day.
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I suspect that if you think location is going to have more influence than you do as a parent that your children will feel "entitled" no matter where you decide to settle down.

You live in an upscale area, parents give their kids smartphones. What happens if you move to a "rural" area and, drum roll, those kids also have upscale phones? Do you find a cave with no electricity?

The issue is parenting, you might try it sometime. It won't make you popular with your kids, but they'll thank you later.
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I suspect that if you think location is going to have more influence than you do as a parent that your children will feel "entitled" no matter where you decide to settle down.

You live in an upscale area, parents give their kids smartphones. What happens if you move to a "rural" area and, drum roll, those kids also have upscale phones? Do you find a cave with no electricity?

The issue is parenting, you might try it sometime. It won't make you popular with your kids, but they'll thank you later.
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I am a full time parent, actually. I do plenty of parenting. 17 years of it. 24/7. Gave up my career to do so. I say no to my kids regularly, hence my daughter NOT having a phone. It IS, however, unusual to parent in an environment where nearly every kid has a new IPhone at 12, a new vehicle at 16 and very few of them work. I’m not saying i can’t parent them in this environment, I’ve done so for years. Questioning whether a simpler life in a less child-centric environment, with less entitled friends might be better for them IS part of parenting. I’m weighing my options and trying to make the best decision for my kids, instead of just wearing blinders and following the status quo. Who knows what the right answer is, but it’s pretty presumptuous to tell me I should try parenting, sometime. Perhaps you should try not thinking you know everything, sometime? If you think parents can totally negate the influence of peers, then you either don’t have teenagers yet or YOU are the one living in a cave.
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I suspect that if you think location is going to have more influence than you do as a parent that your children will feel "entitled" no matter where you decide to settle down.

You live in an upscale area, parents give their kids smartphones. What happens if you move to a "rural" area and, drum roll, those kids also have upscale phones? Do you find a cave with no electricity?

The issue is parenting, you might try it sometime. It won't make you popular with your kids, but they'll thank you later.
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I am a full time parent, actually. I do plenty of parenting. 17 years of it. 24/7. Gave up my career to do so. I say no to my kids regularly, hence my daughter NOT having a phone. It IS, however, unusual to parent in an environment where nearly every kid has a new IPhone at 12, a new vehicle at 16 and very few of them work. I’m not saying i can’t parent them in this environment, I’ve done so for years. Questioning whether a simpler life in a less child-centric environment, with less entitled friends might be better for them IS part of parenting. I’m weighing my options and trying to make the best decision for my kids, instead of just wearing blinders and following the status quo. Who knows what the right answer is, but it’s pretty presumptuous to tell me I should try parenting, sometime. Perhaps you should try not thinking you know everything, sometime? If you think parents can totally negate the influence of peers, then you either don’t have teenagers yet or YOU are the one living in a cave.
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I am a full time parent, actually. I do plenty of parenting. 17 years of it. 24/7. Gave up my career to do so. I say no to my kids regularly, hence my daughter NOT having a phone. It IS, however, unusual to parent in an environment where nearly every kid has a new IPhone at 12, a new vehicle at 16 and very few of them work. I’m not saying i can’t parent them in this environment, I’ve done so for years. Questioning whether a simpler life in a less child-centric environment, with less entitled friends might be better for them IS part of parenting. I’m weighing my options and trying to make the best decision for my kids, instead of just wearing blinders and following the status quo. Who knows what the right answer is, but it’s pretty presumptuous to tell me I should try parenting, sometime. Perhaps you should try not thinking you know everything, sometime? If you think parents can totally negate the influence of peers, then you either don’t have teenagers yet or YOU are the one living in a cave.
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... your children will not like this but probably only HOME EDUCATING will keep them free of peer influence BUT by now they are too old and too into the system for that to work ...
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... we home educated and our children were able to develop the talents they had free from the influence of peers ...
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... and they developed into awesome autodidacts! ... so there is nothing they cannot study ...
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5* for you. Great question.

I'm totally convinced that children from rural areas are much better adjusted, grounded and sense of who they are. They tend to be more naïve, but today that's a good thing.

Today's culture robs children of their childhood.

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Quit the rat race and moved from Colorado to rural Midwest 10 years ago. Kids were young. Bought a cattle farm near a town with a K-12 school. Class size averages 15 kids per grade. My kids know how to work and love to play. Hunt, fish, atv’s, dirt bikes, horses, swimming, and work. They don’t complain and have the best friends you could ask for. My fifteen year old is going out on the farm with his classmate tomorrow morning to hunt turkey. They learned to drive before they were 10 and driving tractor soon after that. They have tons of practical life experience and never once asked for a smart phone. Just not that important to them. They visit cousins in Colorado but have no desire to move back to that fast paced life.
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I am a full time parent, actually. I do plenty of parenting. 17 years of it. 24/7. Gave up my career to do so. I say no to my kids regularly, hence my daughter NOT having a phone. It IS, however, unusual to parent in an environment where nearly every kid has a new IPhone at 12, a new vehicle at 16 and very few of them work. I’m not saying i can’t parent them in this environment, I’ve done so for years. Questioning whether a simpler life in a less child-centric environment, with less entitled friends might be better for them IS part of parenting. I’m weighing my options and trying to make the best decision for my kids, instead of just wearing blinders and following the status quo. Who knows what the right answer is, but it’s pretty presumptuous to tell me I should try parenting, sometime. Perhaps you should try not thinking you know everything, sometime? If you think parents can totally negate the influence of peers, then you either don’t have teenagers yet or YOU are the one living in a cave.
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... your children will not like this but probably only HOME EDUCATING will keep them free of peer influence BUT by now they are too old and too into the system for that to work ...
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... we home educated and our children were able to develop the talents they had free from the influence of peers ...
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... and they developed into awesome autodidacts! ... so there is nothing they cannot study ...
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 Quoting: wisconsin

It’s funny, but my daughter would LOVE to be homeschooled. My oldest used to beg to be homeschooled, before he found a teen peer group. He’s an independent thinker, extremely intelligent, used to be socially awkward, but once he found his niche... ugh. Glad he has friends, but he has lost all focus. My daughter is always telling me that there are online systems, since I am so mathematically challenged. 😂😂 Homeschooling is definitely on the table.
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Re: Has anyone moved from suburbs/city to rural/small town to remove kids from entitled atmosphere? I’m trying to decide..
Not that these are things are mutually exclusive. My kids are conservative,, however.
 Quoting: LawChick


Too bad kids just can't be kids anymore :(