Prima Sounds, and the out of whack tuning scale that is A=440 | |
Normal Is Subjective User ID: 255443 ![]() 06/21/2007 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting Ed, I always noticed when I tuned my guitar by ear and then later checked it with a fork or electric tuner it would invariably be flat, but my inner tuning fork would "feel" better. I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 255497 ![]() 06/22/2007 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed vocally a long time ago. I was told I have perfect pitch, and a known producer used to say he could tune his Nakamichi tuner to my voice. but, in a live band situation, after the guitarists tuning to 440, I had to bring up my pitch. My keyboards also had to be tuned up a notch. Also, played clarinet. It was likely a 432 instrument, as it was always a little flat, and had to be adjusted to the tuner at 440. Interesting information. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 255497 ![]() 06/22/2007 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the 90's into present, with digital tuners, while the instruments were perfectly in tune, and the vocals achieving the right harmonics, the energy or physical connection wasn't as intense. Similar to musicians often preferring vinyl to disc, and analog to digital. |
Mister Ed (OP) User ID: 255490 ![]() 06/22/2007 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are a number of websites that have Prima Music available on CD. Be interesting to hear it, and to make comparisons. One of the things I will attempt to do over the weekend, is raise this subject with some musician friends - particularly those who are well skilled in musical theory. Again, it would be interesting to get their view on it. Just think, we could change the whole paradigm of music and consciousness just by dropping to a different pitch!!! A horse is a horse.. of course of course.. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 255497 ![]() 06/22/2007 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One experiment could be tuning the instruments to the best voice, and see what the tuning reads. Then , without telling anyone what you are doing, see if they get more of the goosebump feeling with that, or the A-440. Should be interesting. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 255497 ![]() 06/22/2007 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the tritonus, and is a dissonant sound. "Tritone (tritonus), the interval of the augmented fourth or diminished fifth (also called the tritonic fourth and tritonic fifth), which spans three (whole) tones. The augmented fourth (IV+) and diminished fifth (V°) are enharmonic spellings for the Tritone. These two intervals are the same sound, but they are written differently." [link to thelemicmusick.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254221 ![]() 06/22/2007 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was called the Devil's chord. Rosslyn Chapel has the geometric cubes signifying each tone in the Schumann scale. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 255490 ![]() 06/22/2007 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it... what does it really matter if we call A=440 Hz or if we call A=320 Hz or if we call A=299 Hz? It's all just relative, the other notes would simply change a proportional amount as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 253374??? It isn't relative. The pitch can change, but our ability to interpret it cannot. It is fixed. Therefore it is easier to change the pitch (the object and/or tuning device), so that bodies can harmonise with it. The analogy is sort of like being out of phase. Akin to a radio frequency. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 253309 ![]() 06/22/2007 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luanne Oakes, in her Spiritual Alchemy course talks about the body being tuned to A-432. [link to www.learnoutloud.com] |
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Normal Is Subjective User ID: 255929 ![]() 06/22/2007 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One experiment could be tuning the instruments to the best voice, and see what the tuning reads. Then , without telling anyone what you are doing, see if they get more of the goosebump feeling with that, or the A-440. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 255497Should be interesting. That's exactly the feeling I get when I use my body tuner, a goosebump trill runs up my spine and my inner ears feel like there's a momentary change in air pressure. I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262801 ![]() 07/09/2007 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | combining [link to www.youtube.com] and 13489. Ralph Losey - [The Discovery Of Chakra Music #02] Eagle's Gift is quite nice |
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guest User ID: 904031 ![]() 03/01/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi there! I'm looking for the precise frequencies of Ralph Losey's scale (the primasounds chakra scale) to get an instrument custom-tuned with it. I'm not sure whether it will be melodically satisfying but as a holistic healer I'm very interested in what I can do with it. Primasounds CDs are really good for self-introspection, but unfortunately the public email address is not valid anymore. Anyone? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 882874 ![]() 03/01/2010 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the bottom line is what i want to know: how can i easily tune my guitar to match these chakra tones? i have a digital tuner but it doesn't even have the option to go down to 432 hz. but as one poster said it isn't the hz it is the ratios. can someone plz help me getting my guitar tuned to these prima tones or whatever! could be tough on my floyd rose floating bridge on the electric but i would like to first try them out on my acoustic :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 838773 ![]() 03/01/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the bottom line is what i want to know: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882874how can i easily tune my guitar to match these chakra tones? i have a digital tuner but it doesn't even have the option to go down to 432 hz. but as one poster said it isn't the hz it is the ratios. can someone plz help me getting my guitar tuned to these prima tones or whatever! could be tough on my floyd rose floating bridge on the electric but i would like to first try them out on my acoustic :) if you have a microphone on ur comp try this its what i use [link to www.seventhstring.com] i was on 432 for a while, but idk, i felt weird playing with it. a dream i had a while back was the beatles all pissed off at me saying playing in 432 hz was "mean" i took it to mean something to do with spiritual law and that maybe it should only be used for serious ritual or something. so im back on 440 now. sounds better when playing songs that were written for 440 anyways. |
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Gannon User ID: 844396 ![]() 03/01/2010 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not that tough to retune your guitar to A432. I have recently tried this, and am amazed at the results already. My eighteen-year-old Taylor has never made my body vibrate before...we are ONE instrument using this tuning. I got a tone off the 'net and went from there. I tune using the harmonics, so it wasn't tough to get it. The trouble will be convincing ANY other musicians of this. I've only sent out ONE encouragement, to a Boston-based musician named Elizabeth Butters...who does a lovely job keeping the old Americana music alive. Never heard back from her. I thought of her first because one of the recordings I found on-line, playing instruments designed for 432 actually made the fiddle sound GOOD. I've got a ton of very resonant 'Neo-Indigenous' acoustic musician friends here in Detroit, and will be experimenting with this more and more this year. It should be fun. Cheers Last Edited by Gannon on 03/01/2010 10:44 AM Gadfly and Rogue Philosopher |
C74R1TY-44 User ID: 887016 ![]() 03/01/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are some good points about the tuning itself but I would have to disagree with the presumption that all modern music tunes A to 440Hz. In fact, I'm listening to electronic music right now that uses the proper frequencies in tuning; the group is called A Lily. The cool thing about stringed instruments in general is that they have analog tuners. Dropping the pitch of a note 8 hertz is as simple as a turn of the wrist... The storm is closing in to begin again from the beginning. Never sitting through my waking life oblivious. The ignorance running rampant through the city is indicative of something worse; this picture isn't pretty. |
guest User ID: 905542 ![]() 03/03/2010 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi people :) I'm really glad this topic is still active :) I've never heard any instruments tuned in the primasounds scale except for their CDs synth, but I know that if you're ready, those tones can really cleanse you up. I was skeptical at first but as I was lying in bed listening to the first tracks (octave progression), I zoned out for a couple minutes and actually missed one key. So when I came back to my senses, my count was off one key/chakra and I was expecting the solar plexus to vibrate. Instead, my pelvic area started buzzing bigtime and when I later realised I had fallen asleep, I understood the feeling was spontaneous, not "delusional" or imaginary since I was expecting it at a different location. Anyways, could anyone please tell me how I should instruct the maker to tune the instrument in this scale, while keeping in mind that i'm totally musically ignorant? (got abused by scary accordeon teacher in elementary school... half j/k) lol thanks :) |
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